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Warlocks causing Global War...

Ive been wondering, if a Warlock can just pull something from another planet and enslave it thus. wouldnt the homeworld be a bit annoyed? or.. Majorly.

Think about it, your the leader of a planet, and all your people just keep vanishing. wouldnt you wanna do find out where there going? and get them back? and kill all those responsible?

-- KingStoph 19:13, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Well Lord Hel'nurath doesn't just sit around when a warlock summons one of his dreadsteeds.

^{{TDon't hiss at me.•CIf you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.)} 20:47, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Silly me read that as "Warlocks causing Global Warming" User:Sharlin/Sig 14:53, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

That's true too, all that fire they let out, and those summoning portals ... don't get me started on how much chlorofluorocarbons is produced from them.

^{{TDon't hiss at me.•CIf you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.)} 05:57, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

you WILL Battle me!!

Is there anything in the game that makes players attack you?

Reason being i was in a raid group heading to Orgimmmer so we can all die in a realy unorganized group. when an orc runs past screaming about some hacking thing.

Is there anything that can make this bot attack me so i can kill it? im sure nobody would mind XD

-- KingStoph 16:21, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

The only thing that will make the player attack you is 'that player. Zurr T ∙ C 16:40, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

There is only one known trick to make a player flag up, so that you can attack em... but it involved them duel you in the first place.

^{{TDon't hiss at me.•CIf you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.)} 22:26, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

You could probably taunt them enough to take the bait. =) And if you were a hunter the snake traps (until the damn thing gets fixed) are a pain for the rest of us who aren't. Read around and you'll know what I mean. =/ --User:Innocentlysassy/Sig 20:04, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

You can also invite them to the party... they often accept so they can spam. Then if you're a hunter, you can misdirect something big and angry onto their soft and unsuspecting bodies... Someone did that with the Cenarion druid in Org to people who kept begging... Was funny. :-D--Azaram 03:38, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Yes me again... this time its about Forms...

How many diffrent forms are there to shapeshift into? i dont mean just druid, i mean with items n stuff. like Furbolg form and Ogre form, that kinda thing. im gonna try and get as many as i can for no real reason :-D

-- KingStoph 13:28, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Forms... lets see... Furbolg, fel orc, broken, blood elf, goblin, leper gnome, orge, worgen, tigon, dragon whelp, skeleton, various critters, a crate, every main race (

[Orb of Deception]), seal, bear, 3 kinds of cats, 2 types of birds, and a weeping willow tree. *Sings last part* ... Thats all I can recall.

^{{TDon't hiss at me.•CIf you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.)} 07:36, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Additions: Forgot about the snowman, (didn't mention pirate or ninja - cause I was just thinking of creatures, and human was on the list). I thought of a couple of others while falling asleep...but I can't remember now...

^{{TDon't hiss at me.•CIf you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.)} 20:54, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

If you hunt around through the seasonal toys, you get the wands that turn you into halloween things like pirates. Also I don't remember how, but I swear you can turn into a snowman. If you want your mount to get in on the fun, it can be a reindeer. Non-holiday stuff includes

[Noggenfogger Elixir] turns you into a couple of things like a skeleton. And the

[Deviate Fish] (gotta fish and cook) turns you into a pirate and a ninja. I'd think up more but I gotta run. And I think Coobra mentioned ogres, but in case it wasn't the

[Gordok Ogre Suit], thought I'd bring it up. =) --User:Innocentlysassy/Sig 20:14, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

We need a page about stuff like that. I think we do. Is "Guide to changing into things" a good name?--SWM24 48 20:21, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

eh... how about "Guide to changing forms" or "Guide to changing appearances"?

^{{TDon't hiss at me.•CIf you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.)} 20:50, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Costume guide? Costumes in WoW? --User:Innocentlysassy/Sig 22:56, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

'Forms' seems too druidesque.--SWM24 48 22:57, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Agreed. 'Forms' sounds too druid specific. Costume, disguise or appearance would be a better term. -- User:Kochira/Sig 23:07, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Appearance it is then. Cause even costume and disguise wouldn't fit all that would be on the page.

^{{TDon't hiss at me.•CIf you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.)} 23:12, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

"Guide to changing appearances" or "Guide to changing your appearance" or what?--SWM24 48 23:20, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Lets just make it simple and make it that first one.

^{{TDon't hiss at me.•CIf you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.)} 00:28, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Can page names be plural? I dunno in this case.--SWM24 48 00:31, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Normally pages are in singular form... so... however there are exceptions to the rule, and I think this is one of those exceptions... though if wrong, the page can be moved to the correct one.

^{{TDon't hiss at me.•CIf you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.)} 00:37, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Ok. Should it be by item/event or what it turns you into?--SWM24 48 00:41, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Lets go with what you're turned into as the header, with the info of what turns you into that under it.

^{{TDon't hiss at me.•CIf you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.)} 01:04, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Ok, I got it started... but trying to find some of those items is a pain, so I'm taking a break if someone else wants to continue, be my guest. See --> Guide to changing appearances --Sssssssssssssssssssssssss For Pony! ^{{TDon't hiss at me.•CIf you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.)} 03:06, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Hey anyone remember what gives us the goblin appearance... I thought it was during hallow's end, but I can't find any info... was it a trick the innkeepers did?

^{{TDon't hiss at me.•CIf you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.)} 06:01, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

What about the

[Ultrasafe Transporter: Toshley's Station]? It has a variety of malfunctions that changes your form. Wasn't sure if the soul splits counted, so I leave this to you to add in. O_O Sounds like a cool device, wish I were an engineer. Also, since it's been awhile since I've been to Toshley's and used the transporter, does this include the one there too for the quests? --User:Innocentlysassy/Sig 06:41, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Also checking on the

[Sunfury Disguise]. Not that many screenshots around, but I believe it changes you into a Blood Elf? I didn't add it yet since I wasn't sure. But if anyone is, please add it. =) --User:Innocentlysassy/Sig 07:01, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Hmm, forgot about those... but they're added now. =)

^{{TDon't hiss at me.•CIf you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.)} 17:29, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Besides the goblin section, I think the list is complete... till the next xpak that is. Sssssssssssssssssssssssss For Pony! ^{{TDon't hiss at me.•CIf you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.)} 17:45, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

How to begin raiding as a guild?

Hi, I'm a level 67 warrior, and the leader of a guild known as "The War Council" on the Aerie Peak Realm (Horde side). I, along with many of my fellow guild members are fast approaching, or have just reached level 70. My guild was founded with the view that many others are too narrow in focus, I wanted to create a casual guild that did everything the game had to offer, pvp and pve, raids and quests, and had fun while doing it. So far we've done almost everything with alarming effeciency, we're known as a fun party guild, and we're widely disliked by the alliance whom we frequently battle. However as we all approach the level cap the hardest part reveals itself, that of raids.

There exist many raid guilds for the horde on my server, most of which are obsessed purely with keying for and running Karazhan. Only 2 horde guilds on my server have even passed SSC to my knowledge (and according to boss kill tracking sites). For my guild, we for the most part are not raid experienced, and therefore wish to experience endgame 60 raids as well as doing the endgame 70. We have hosted a few events called "Raid Training Camps" where we try our best to use our combined knowledge to educate each other on what we feel is important to know in raids, and the differences between 5 man PuGs and raids. We have just now begun our first guild wide concerted effort in getting Onyxia Attunement which has thus far been a success, showing we have the teamwork needed for raiding.

However beyond this, I am very interested in knowing how other raid guilds got their start? We are more of a casual family type environment guild that just happens to have a large number of players interested in raiding. I don't wish to sacrifice our casual laid-back style, but I do want to have a chance at going as far as Black Temple and becoming a well reputed and successful raid guild. I find it hard to get such advice from my server community since a very large number of guilds come and go every month with the intent to become "a successful raiding guild" and we're just viewed as "wannabe underdogs".

So can anyone give me any advice on how to proceed with becoming a powerful raiding guild? I'm curious as to how those in high end raid guilds learned to become successful in raiding and such? We're not founded on the purpose of raiding, we are a family, and we want to experience the endgame with our family, but we all have to become prepared for it together, I welcome any advice anyone has for us.

-- Vicera 11:31, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

If you're family, you shouldn't have much difficulty working together, and you need all that family of yours to be experienced with all the spells their classes have and know the circumstances under which to use them, and you need to know tactics about the bosses, which you'll find on this site. There's no other way to gain experience rather than actually PLAY the game and learn, slowly but steady. And I forgot so sign >.< Bajo 14:22, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Keep in mind that most of the successful raiding guilds out there are not casual and fun guilds. They take raiding pretty seriously which is how they get to the top in the first place. They are selective on who are in their raids, so that the players are good and committed. My current guild is one like yours in its philosophy is and they're stuck currently on raiding just Kara weekly (due mainly to always having different people in a raid). They need to get an allied guild to help them do others like Gruul's or even to venture into SSC.

The guild my bf is in, on the other hand, is in one of the top guilds on our server. And they have mandatory raiding requirements and raid 5 days of the week, with the other 2 days been optional ones (mostly to get their alts geared to help if needed). Missing a raid is detrimental to you staying in the guild. Not as fun an environment, but that way they have the same people raiding constantly so that they know each other's limitations and play style, which makes their raids way efficient. When they recruit they either take someone in who is well geared so they know that person can handle the instances they're raiding, or they take someone on a test run and deliberately screw up so they know that person can handle their class.

Also be careful of those who would only use your guild as a stepping stone to a better guild. They'll come, take your loot, and then apply to other guilds. Those always suck. ;)

So you might want to reconsider what you want your guild to be. Fun and casual, more often than not, does not lead to a powerful raiding guild, unfortunately. =( Try seeing how your guild would react to not only doing the fun instances like ZG/MC/Ony, but also with at least setting aside a day for the whole guild to work on some of the BC instances. (And like you saw, the strats floating around on sites such as this one is great for helping guild members know what they have to do before going in)--User:Innocentlysassy/Sig 04:17, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

All I would add is... what do YOU want out of WoW? Sassy mentions it, but I'd like to stress it: Raiding "seriously" is a different kind of "fun", and is not for everyone. Raiding gets you into challenging fights that you wouldn't otherwise see. But the downside is that it also limits you to repeating those fights past the point they are novel. Add the risk (over time, the certainty) that today's Obsessed-over, Top Rung gear may be tomorrow's "I wasted time for that?", and you may find yourself enjoying the game less over time.

... or you may enjoy the game more, having gear you know that only a small minority of the population has. It all depends. --Eirik Ratcatcher 02:02, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

I have ultimately decided the best solution. We have split our guild in half, a division based upon those who play casually and those who wish for endgame. We have formed a seperate guild that is still allied with our former (and shares resources) but is specifcally endgame oriented to better pool our resources and efforts towards those goals. Since we've already established a strong family type environment, we're applying the same principles to our raiding guild, by making it where we try to be as fair as possible without requiring people to attend 10 million raids to be eligible for great gear (Doing Loot Council style distribution). I think ultimately we had to create our own endgame environment before we had our members leave for one. You can get good gear anywhere, but a family is hard to find. Vicera 18:05, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Vendors - Do they reset?

I recently acquired an item that had gem sockets and i wanted to purchase some gems to use in the new item. I did some research on this site and found what I was looking for (great site). I went to the vendor and he did not have any gems for sale. I was wondering if vendor's reset and how often? Please help!

-- Marielos 13:51, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

It's not that the vendors reset, its that the item becomes available again. And it varies on what the item is...there is no default cooldown time for the limited amount sold items. Some could take 24hrs, others just 1 hour, a few even just 10mins. Only way to know the actual cooldown time of the item is to buy it, and wait by the vendor rechecking every 10mins till it reappears.

^{{TDon't hiss at me.•CIf you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.)} 19:27, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Yar, those items are called "limited supply" items. And you can tell what those are by a number indicating how much of them a vendor has to sell. As an example there are a ton of profession recipes/schematics/etc around the world that also do this. Limited sale recipe. Perhaps we should create other pages that indicate more of these items? Since there's a lot of items that are also limited, like your gem. --User:Innocentlysassy/Sig 04:00, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Night Elf Origion Theory

I once read somewhere, I believe in the main site lore section, that it is rumored that Night Elves are descended off-shoots of Trolls. Considering the presence of trolls in ancient times, and actually preceeding that of the night elf empires, this theory is actually a possibility. However other than the short stub, I have found no source of information to possibly substantiate this claim (other than it was posted on the official WoW site) or to disprove it. I'd love to see if anyone could possibly reference me to pages relating to this rumor, and help me try to discover the truth behind this. I'm sure pvp Night Elves will hate finding out they share origions with trolls.

-- Vicera 23:54, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

PvP Night Elves who roleplay to the extreme, yes. Brann Bronzebeard claimed that's true at some point I just can't place it... As it is nothing more than speculations and occasional mentions of it here and there, I'd prefer you or anyone else not to post it in the Night Elf page Bajo 20:15, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Were you referring to Troll/Elf_Lineage for the page you found here? Other pages you might want to read are Warcraft forums, Tooskatribe, plwg.com, dlc (that last one has a cool pic you might like). Lots of pages online doing the speculating with the same information on this site. They just can do it with a little more flair since they're personal websites. =D --User:Innocentlysassy/Sig 08:42, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Graphics are not good

Graphics could be better, I think... -- Encelade 18:37, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

The graphics of what? WoWWiki? WoW? --SWM24 48 18:41, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

graphics of wow—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Encelade (talk · contr).

You shouldn't expect graphics to rival that of 7th generation platforms (PS3, XBOX 360, etc.) since the development of WoW pre-dates them. The graphics are in my opinion fine, they have a very stylized look, which is what was intended. The graphics if you turn the settings to maximum (which if you're a fan of PC games with higher quality graphics I am sure you can handle) then WoW can be gorgeous. If you're running on a low end machine where you must disable several video settings for performance reasons it may not be as sharp or beautiful. The main thing is WoW isn't about graphics, it's about gameplay. If I want outstanding graphics, I'll watch a movie like LotR, in a game I could care less if the character was a colored ascii symbol, it's all about how it plays, not how it looks. The only issue I dislike about the graphics is one that plagues most 3D RPGs, Clipping (Especially since I'm pretty sure 0.01% of gear in WoW were designed to look GOOD on trolls) Vicera 14:48, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

While I respect your opinion, what do you want us to do about it? WoWWiki is not a forum.--SWM24 48 18:52, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

I think the graphics render pretty damn good on my computer. What kind of graphics card do you have? --User:Innocentlysassy/Sig 20:11, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

I guess he doesn't understand what stylized is. WOW didn't aim for realism because it would take away from game play. I look at it this way, people who don't play WOW because of the graphics are not people you really want to play WOW with. Its obvious they aren't clued into what makes a game good User:Sharlin/Sig 13:48, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

WoW's graphics isn't it's strong side, really. WoW relies on good interface, great surroundings, good environment, countless players that you can interact with and more. Even the graphics can be absolutely GORGEOUS with a very good graphics card and high resolution and details, for example Eversong Woods, or Nagrand, or Un'Goro. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bajo (talk · contr).

Forum Ban?

I dont often post in the official forums, but I returned to them after not visiting them for some months (to idle my time during server maintennance) and I discovered a message saying I had been permanently banned from posting in the forum for allegedly posting a link to a hack/cheat site. First of all I dont recall posting a link to any site at all, and secondly I do not use, condone, or reccomend the use of hacks/cheats as they lessen the experience and cause unbalanced gameplay especially in an MMO. I have tried searching for a way to contact blizzard, but I cannot find the "relevant" contact information regarding this request. Is there any way I could possibly hope to contact blizzard and lift this permanent ban from the forums?

-- Vicera 16:28, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Only thing I can suggest is try visiting the support site.

^{{TDon't hiss at me.•CIf you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.)} 21:20, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Have you searched for the postings under your characters' names? Perhaps you can find out which link you posted they consider a hack. Their code of conduct page shows that you get no warning, just a ban for what you said happened. There are a couple of e-mail addresses at the bottom if you'd like to inquire a GM/or the forums dudes about what happened. Also, like Coobra mentioned, the support site has an e-mail form which you can use to inquire as well. Might want to choose "Account Action Inquiry" or something to that effect. Good luck. =/ --User:Innocentlysassy/Sig 22:01, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for the link to the support site, I have appealed my ban and hopefully I'll get some resolution from it. I didn't bother to attempt to search for the offending post as most likely given the nature of the alleged reason I was banned, the post in question would have been removed or edited. Thanks again Vicera 17:58, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Hey all of you ;)

I’m a girl - surprise! And I am totally in to WoW - ofc ;) (have been that for about 2 years now ) I am also making a lot of art - with modelviewer and the actual game as inspiration. NOW! ... The question is just: "How many girls play WoW?"

...

And I have to add. ...: "How many girls - that like their looks, so much that the use a lot of time in front of the mirror, do you know that play WoW ??"

Because I am apparently not looking like some typical WoW-Girl-Gamer... xD my bf is also playing lots of comp. - and that is also a little non-typical - if you ask a lot of gamers ;)

(Specifically when I go to any netcafé - all of the boys are looking at me - and questioning me a lot!)

So... plz help me find out if I am a little alone here ;)

(and btw - sorry if there is a lot of incorrect spelling - I’m Danish ;) - sry)

Have a nice day =) - Liwai - Blood elf - priest - EU - the sha'tar. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Liwai (talk · contr).

WoWWiki is not a forum. Try the official community forums; you will have a better chance of meeting people there.--SWM24 48 20:24, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

hey guys

pls help me. how to hack a dota map? where i can find it? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Clark17 (talk · contr).

google? --User:Innocentlysassy/Sig 05:41, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

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