Titanic watcherEdit


Update suggestionsEdit

Putress: TBC or WotLKEdit

I think Putress is WotLK. Why?

Same reason Blood Elves and High Elves are TBC.

Putress appears in an event of TBC, but he was implemented for WotLK and currently can only be seen at WotLK content.

So I think he should be WotLK.

If you want to put it TBC, then change Varian to vanilla. After all, he was at Alcaz.

--Lon-ami (talk) 17:19, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

If you're still on the idea of "interacting" then no, Varian remains WotLK, as he gave no "buble speech" and no quest while he was in Alcaz, unlinke Putress.
IconSmall Hamuul Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 08:50, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
He was at Stormwind, too. During the event. Like Putress.
--Lon-ami (talk) 09:28, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
Well yes for that, but not Vanilla has you said first :) He's like putress.
Or we can put Bc icon Wrath-Logo-Small for those characters who made their first appearance in the pre-wotlk event.
IconSmall Hamuul Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 09:31, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
So, why is Varian WotLK when you can interact with him in vanilla? (He's at Stormwind)
And why is Putress TBC when you need WotLK to interact with him? (He's no longer at Shattrath)
I would leave they tagged with the expansion when they appeared. 3.0.2 is part of WotLK, as the 3 indicates. It's the most simple and the best option in my opinion. Else, we would have problems with characters like Nazgrel, who was at Grommash Hold and now is at Thrallmar. And same with the blood elves.
--Lon-ami (talk) 09:40, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
I would have to agree with Lonus-Amicus here. Both Putress and Varian are heavily tied up to the WoTLK expansion, and the only argument for tagging them as BC is that they appeared in the pre-WotLK event, which had all to do with the story WotLK and nothing to do with that of BC. --User:Varghedin/Sig 08:58, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, that's it! But I'll wait for A'noob to reply before changing anything.
Anyway, Varghedin, I'm looking forward the new icons of Ulduar :P.
--Lon-ami (talk) 10:02, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
It's a frakkin' trap! *shoot himself*
IconSmall Hamuul Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 10:21, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Thorim, Hodir, Freya icons Edit

hey think you could make an icon for Thorim, Hodir, Freya since they got unique models in Ulduar and being lore characters.--IconSmall DrakonidBlueMaelstrong 18:46, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Patience, patch 3.0 not live yet. Until it doesn't go live, I doubt Varghedin will create them.
Just wait ;).
--Lon-ami (talk) 18:57, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Pretty sure he got all of those ready already xD
IconSmall Hamuul Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 19:05, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Since their models aren't in the game files yet, I'd be limited to making icons off posted screenshots (I'm not a raider so I won't be taking any myself). What I could do is make preliminary icons and then update them after the patch if needed. --User:Varghedin/Sig 09:40, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Great work, as always ;).
--Lon-ami (talk) 14:23, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Damn nice job man, I love your work. Where did you find an image of Alaglon the Observer? If you dont mind me asking:D--IconSmall DrakonidBlueMaelstrong 22:17, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

I basically googled his name. The image is from MMO-Champion. --User:Varghedin/Sig 22:52, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

cool, now i noticed you put him on the Major Characters page. I did some research on this guy so i'm just saying now that yes hes a yellow, but can you please explain how he goes in the category of Vrykul? I mean i'm fine with it being there I just dont understand why you put it there. Like I said, i'm completely fine with it but it would be nice to know.--IconSmall DrakonidBlueMaelstrong 01:25, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Honestly, I had no idea where to put him since he's basically a unique model, and I don't know what the game files call it. However, he has the physical body shape of a male vrykul, even though his essence seems to be made of starstuff. So he could be a "Star vrykul" or a "Constellation" or something else. I don't even know if he's classified as humanoid. --User:Varghedin/Sig 06:37, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
I think he can be classified with the other watchers. After all, they all are titan constructs. Anyway, he's pretty big, too. So giant, then.
--Lon-ami (talk) 07:58, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Nerzul, Gul'dan Edit


think you could make icons for Guldan and Nerzhul? Nerzhul has a unquie model because of the skull on his face and gul'dan has a unquie armor set, including helm. If you could make them that would be awesome, they have Wow images but i assume you already know:D --IconSmall DrakonidBlueMaelstrong 00:16, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

also you could put them under BC since they were both in the Black Temple trailer and Gul'dan was ingame as a vision--IconSmall DrakonidBlueMaelstrong 00:49, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Well, I made them. The Zer'zhul one looks ok but in the Gul'dan one is kind of hard to tell what's going on. I guess I'll upload them and see how they are received. --User:Varghedin/Sig 14:53, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
Update: I changed it to the old Metzen artwork that I colored. The screenshot was really hard to decipher with the hood and the mouthpiece hiding the face. --User:Varghedin/Sig 15:23, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

sweet, can you do one for Grom Hellscream too? And maybe if possible give Thrall a unquie one as well? --IconSmall DrakonidBlueMaelstrong 19:28, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Thrall Jaina Ulduar Trailer

Ulduar Trailer, Thralls face looks more unquie here i guess

could you possible make a Garrosh Hellscream icon as well. I mean in-game hes face looks the same but his face is completely different in the Ulduar.I hope i'm not being too demanding i just love your work soooo much and its fantastic!--IconSmall DrakonidBlueMaelstrong 19:49, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

I made Grom, Thrall, Garrosh, Jaina and Rhonin, the four latter ones from the Ulduar trailer caps. --User:Varghedin/Sig 08:13, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

awesome!!, if you dont mind could you make an icon for Tyrande Whisperwind, Uther the Lightbringer,Kargath Bladefist,Vereesa Windrunner, and Arthas Menethil(Death Knight)? I say these guys deserve there own icons. --IconSmall DrakonidBlueMaelstrong 12:04, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Alright, they've been added, along with Aegwynn, Broll, Malfurion and Valeera. --User:Varghedin/Sig 14:17, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

oh i almost forgot, could you make a Broxigar icon? if you could then i'm good:D You might as well add the rest of the Son of Lothar, Danath Trollbane, Kurdan Wildhammer. i guess you should add Varok Saurfang and Saurfang the younger as well. I dont know who else would deserve there own unquie icon, Cairne Bloodhoof maybe? --IconSmall DrakonidBlueMaelstrong 17:05, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

i'm not sure if you can do Alleria Windrunner but if you can that would be cool.--IconSmall DrakonidBlueMaelstrong 23:53, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Danath, Alleria, Turalyon, Kurdran, Saurfang I and II, and Cairne were done. Brox doesn't have any usable art, sorry. --User:Varghedin/Sig 09:01, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

what about the one from the cover of Demon Soul? His head is fully visiable. Also probalby should make a Krasus Icon too, the one from gthe cover of NotD maybe since some hes got some features of High Elf Blood Elf and Human(I dont want to argue about that ok). I'm just making suggestions.


hey A'noob, i know you check this page alot, you got any suggestions for icons?--IconSmall DrakonidBlueMaelstrong 14:28, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

Are you stalking me ? xD
How about Broxigar (from WoA), Krasus (from NotD), Maybye Magni, Azshara, maybye a more personal Sargeras and Elune.
IconSmall Hamuul Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 15:05, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

LOL, no, on your user page theres a link to this page lol, so i assume you check this out alot. And to add on we might as well have icons for Muridin and Brann right.--IconSmall DrakonidBlueMaelstrong 15:21, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

you could also do a sylvanas icon when shes alive. Maybe a Darion and Tirion icon too.--IconSmall DrakonidBlueMaelstrong 17:08, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

Is there even a picture (a good picture) of undead Darion?--TheUltimate (talk) 18:06, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

ok never mind about Darion, Rehgar Earthfury instead i guess lol Cant wait to see the new icons:D--IconSmall DrakonidBlueMaelstrong 18:10, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

are you currently working on the icons now? the suspense is killing me xD and i think Kilrogg Deadeye deserves his own icon.--IconSmall DrakonidBlueMaelstrong 00:10, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

all the suggestions posted are a little hard to read i guess so i'll just list them, the ones that havent been made into icons

  • Broxigar (from WoA)
  • Krasus (from NotD)
  • Brann Bronzebeard
  • Muridin Bronzebeard
  • Magni Bronzebread
  • Elune
  • Sylvanas Windrunner (Alive/High Elf)
  • Tirion Fordring
  • Darion Mograine
  • Rehgar Earthfury
  • Kilrogg Deadeye

some new suggestions-

  • Cho'gall
  • Kel'Thuzad
  • Blackhand
  • Llane Wrynn I
  • Mannoroth
  • Azgalor

If you could get at least a few of these done today that would be awesome, or at least give me i notice that your working on them. Your work on these icons is great and i love seeing new ones. Respond please:D--IconSmall DrakonidBlueMaelstrong 21:01, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Relax, Maelstrong... I have a life outside of wowwiki too, no matter if my contribution record says otherwise ;). I did do a bunch of icons this morning and posted them on the project page. The ones that made it on are Sylvanas (high elf), Tirion, Darion, Magni, Brann, Muradin, Cho'gall, Llane, Blackhand, Rehgar and Krasus. The other ones didn't have any art that could be made into icons, either because they're black/white, too heavily shadowed, at weird angles, too detailed, too little detailed, and so on. Believe me, I tried it for all of them but in order to get a nice icon the pic needs to be evenly lit and preferably have a 3-dimensional pixel range, otherwise the icon ends up indecipherable. I'd rather have the characters have a proper (but not unique) race icon than some unique pixel blob that looks like a cross between a shrub and plane crash. --User:Varghedin/Sig 09:29, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

sorry about that, i got a little carried away:) anyways is it cool if i still make suggestions? just make only a few sugeestions each day, and i can make sure first that they have what you described. i dont know when your gonna anwser but just in case i'll make some suggestions now.

  • Bolvar Fordragon
  • Iridi
  • Fandral Staghelm
  • Hamuul Runetotem
  • Vindicator Maraad
  • Nobundo
  • Zuluhed the Whacked
  • Dentarg
  • Rend Blackhand

that should be good on suggestions for now. Again sorry about me being carried away and impatient--IconSmall DrakonidBlueMaelstrong 19:48, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

i was gonna suggest Dath'Remar Sunstrider but.... could you use his only image so that way people will stop using both high elf and Highborne icons for him?--IconSmall DrakonidBlueMaelstrong 19:58, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

A'noob you got any suggestions for Varghedin?--IconSmall DrakonidBlueMaelstrong 20:47, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

For a better reading, just add your suggestions to the new top page list, and we will strike (or simply remove) them when they're done :)
IconSmall Hamuul Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 09:55, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

good idea:D--IconSmall DrakonidBlueMaelstrong 10:07, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Hamuul, Iridi, Nobundo, Bolvar, Fandral, Dath'Remar, Rend and Zuluhed were doable. Dentarg didn't work (two heads in one box is hard to pull off), and Vindicator Maraad is just an action figure. Does he really deserve an icon? --User:Varghedin/Sig 17:04, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

i acciently put Maraad in and forgot to remove it when i was removing guys like Rokhan(Troll), and the high priestess of the Aldor. I only suggested him at first because he was gonna be a major character in the #21 comic and he already had a model in Wow. But your right he doesnt deserve his own icon. Dentarg i thought would work since you used the Cho'gall icon from WC2. It looked like it would but oh well, i only suggested him because he seemed like a popular character but since the revolt against making new icons is up i guess a Dentarg icon would be necessary--IconSmall DrakonidBlueMaelstrong 19:51, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

I suggest Illidan Stormrage be added as well. IconSmall WolvarBig, furry, and insane (Have a conversation with the homocidal furry!) (Come and stalk me! ...No, wait, please don't.) 01:18, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

umm yea, check the Demon area, please dont move Illidans icon to elves.--Icon AzgalorMaelstrong 01:30, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Oh, lol. Ya, didn't see him there >_< /facepalm

Well, since I feel like I should actually be contributing something, why not Eitrigg? IconSmall WolvarBig, furry, and insane (Have a conversation with the homocidal furry!) (Come and stalk me! ...No, wait, please don't.) 01:35, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

i just made a King Terenas icon, you wanna add it to the list?--Icon AzgalorMaelstrong 01:48, 16 May 2009 (UTC) Icon Terenas<-------------------------------- Eitrigg right here Icon Eitrigg<----------- not a very good one but its my own custom made one, if you want an icon from Vaghedin your gonna have to wait a bit.--Icon AzgalorMaelstrong 01:56, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Do we really need this? Edit

Seriously, I think we're having an overdose of icons. it's good to have icons of concrete WoW models, but this is too much. For god's sake.

I'd rather focus on race icons than in character icons but, well, I'm no one to decide.

--Lon-ami (talk) 18:40, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

I think the same, although all the icons are very cool, there are many characters who didn't really need it. Benitoperezgaldos (talk) 19:09, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
I also think we should cool it off. We don't need an icon for every minor character that's featured in a Warcraft story, since they are quite limited in where they can be used in wowwiki. --User:Varghedin/Sig 19:20, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, they're only used at lists of characters, just to depict the race of each one.
To depict the race, we have the race icons, so no need of more.
I'd just limit it to WoW custom models, and remove those based on any other type of images.
After all, we should follow the latest update to the media, and that's WoW.
--Lon-ami (talk) 19:24, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

thats fine with cooling it off, but i dont think its necessary to remove the icons that Varghedin worked on, plus A'noobs been puting the new icons in like the Books, Manga, Novels Comics, ect. sections . Removing the ones that are based on any other types of images is tottally unnecessary. Whats done is done. Besides, i ran out of suggestions. What we got now is good enough i agree.

Overall very nice job on the icons, and i'll be done with the suggestions, but really Varghedin, you rock. I got a little addicted and you didnt get upset with me when i overdid it. Your Awesome:D--IconSmall DrakonidBlueMaelstrong 19:40, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

I almost forgot!, A'noobs awesome for putting the Unique Icons in the right spots: Novels, Books, Comic, Manga, Media, ect. --IconSmall DrakonidBlueMaelstrong 20:20, 15 May 2009 (UTC)


Would this work? the head is clearly visable

for a last requested icon could you make a Orgrim icon using this image? I believe Orgrim Doomhammer deserves his own icon. I know you said you couldnt make a Orgrim Doomerhammer icon because there was no using Artwork, but would this work? if you can make it i'm asking this as a final requested icon.--IconSmall DrakonidBlueMaelstrong 20:41, 15 May 2009 (UTC) i tryed making my own icon.
Orgrim Icon

Icon i made

so i'm guessing you can make it into an icon:D I dont have Photoshop so i could only make it 35x36 to make it.--IconSmall DrakonidBlueMaelstrong 21:55, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
I made it a 18x18 gif, is it good enough ? (paint powaa!)
IconSmall Orgrim
IconSmall Hamuul Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 22:10, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
LOL, that should be good, forv now until he can make a better one on photoshop, i was just about to upload a 18x18 xD lol--IconSmall DrakonidBlueMaelstrong 22:14, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Icon Azgalor we could use this for Azgalor icon, though it needs some editing. with a little work it will become my new icon sig:D--Maelstrong 22:55, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
ta da!--Icon AzgalorMaelstrong 00:56, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
That Azgalor icon underlines what I said earlier... to me that doesn't look like a pit lord, it looks like someone stepped on a grape. If I squint my eyes and tilt my head and put my nose on the screen, I can kind of see what it is, but only because I tried to make an icon of that pic earlier and it didn't work. --User:Varghedin/Sig 08:07, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
I vote for using only WoW models for icons, or else, everything will go mad. I, myself, don't recognize most of the icons, icons that are supposed to depict the race/type of the character/creature.
--Lon-ami (talk) 09:32, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
Ahhhh what's that supposed-azgalor-thing ? ^^ just let Varghedin do what he masters, I think you shoul remain the suggesting boy Mael (no offense xD).
I am agaisnt the use of wow model onyl for icons :) For example, Terenas is not in game but he as quite an imposing face in the W3 cinematic.
Keep up the good work Varghedin!
IconSmall Hamuul Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 10:15, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

thats just gonna be part of my sig:D, i made it myself since my old one was causing problems. I have to admit, my icons suck, i dont even know how to get that blakc background, i'm guessing it has something to do with wowmodelviewer but thats another story. Anyways, since King Ymrion got moved to undead and now the Human/Orc icon balance is lost, so we need one more humanh icon it looks like. Might as well make it Terenas lol.--Icon AzgalorMaelstrong 11:23, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

What about people who only appeared in WC-WC3? What do we do about them!?

P.S: Most of the characters here who appear in WoW use their WoW models in their icons anyways. IconSmall WolvarBig, furry, and insane (Have a conversation with the homocidal furry!) (Come and stalk me! ...No, wait, please don't.) 14:01, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

I suggest that characters that have a wow Model should always stick to that. IF a character is deemed necessary to have one and doesn't have a WoW model, go with WCIII and then go to artwork.Lego3400 (talk) 23:48, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

ok i know my icon sucks, why not just make a Brutallus icon since he has a Unquie model. This is just a suggestion, Same with th four loas of Zul'Aman,Halazzi,Nalorakk, Jan'alai, Akil'zon those could work as icons. Like I said, suggestions no need to make anymore icons, just do what you think is right Varghedin. Your the man--Icon AzgalorMaelstrong 00:12, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

I've tried to make some Scarlet Monastery guys, but I can't get a clear image once it's done, MS Paint definitly suxx!
IconSmall Hamuul Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 11:26, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

just use there wow model then:D--Icon AzgalorMaelstrong 15:35, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Warcraft 3 icons Edit

ok everytime i see Murdins icon i dont think of murudin, i think of a mountain king. Could it be possible to change the icon so to what he looks like in WoW? same thing with Carine Bloodhoof, hes got a Wow model, lol, why not use that for the icon instead of the Tauren Chieftain icon? I'm not trying to be rude or anything but i think this needs to be fixed because i dont think giving a tauren chieftain icon and saying its carnie is unqiue, same as Muradin. Anyone agree?--Icon AzgalorMaelstrong 16:40, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
In popular culture, Muradin and Cairne are both THE MOUNTAIN KING and THE TAUREN CHIEFTAIN.
Their icons clearly allow a swift "identification".
IconSmall Hamuul Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 17:02, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
Disagree with disagree. Those models aren't unique for them. WoW's are.--Lon-ami (talk) 19:16, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
When you see the icons of Cairne and Muradin, you don't recognise them? when you see Cairne's icon, you think it's Baine? When you see Muradin's you think its a random moutain king?
IconSmall Hamuul Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 19:23, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

well for people who play, like myself, are gonna be seeing a random mountain king and tauren chieftain everytime they see those icons. It would look 10x better if there icons were changed to there wow models, maybe the same with Sylvanas's high elf icon should be changed to her high elf(living) model.--Icon AzgalorMaelstrong 22:50, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Truth. Also, there are other named mountain kings at W3, so better the WoW ones.--Lon-ami (talk) 10:49, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
Muradin: Small Muradin
Yorg: Small Yorg
I fear Muradin is too dark and Yorg look too much like Magni IconSmall Magni
IconSmall Hamuul Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 21:12, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
Yeah... :S
You could try using wowmodelviewer instead, for better quality.
Hell, Varghedin, you should write a tutorial to make those awesome icons you make! So we can reach your quality :(.
If 2 icons look too similar, just change the angle of vision :P.
--Lon-ami (talk) 09:46, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Drek'Thar Edit

How about a Drek'Thar?
based on the WoW Small Drek&#039;Thar
or Warcraft Adventures IconSmall Drek&#039;Thar
IconSmall Hamuul Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 17:20, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
The WoW one is cool, but, well, the quality... xDDD
Why don't you try another program? For example, GIMP is free software and you'll have a nice quality ;).
--Lon-ami (talk) 17:27, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
It is GIMP-made...
I go hang my self!
IconSmall Hamuul Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 17:32, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Oh... Crap. What I don't like is that white frame around Drek'thar. That's all. I thought it was a side-effect of paint :s. --Lon-ami (talk) 17:34, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Changed a bit, but know I have a white dot in the up-left corner instead of a frame
IconSmall Hamuul Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 17:45, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
It's not quite Varghedin's quality, but can it be use? and witch one?
IconSmall Hamuul Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 20:27, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
As long as no one complains, you ca use them wherever you want.
Save my user page, of course Tongueout xDDD.
--Lon-ami (talk) 10:50, 18 June 2009 (UTC)


How about Onyxia, Nef, and Keristrasza.Warthok Talk Contribs 00:12, 16 August 2009 (UTC)


Can Varghedin make something out of the Icecrown boss achievement icons ?

  • Lady Deathwhisper Achievement boss ladydeathwhisper
  • Festergut & Rotface 50px
  • Sindragosa Achievement boss sindragosa

IconSmall Hamuul Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 08:37, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I can do it on Monday when I come home from vacation in Spain. --User:Varghedin/Sig 08:10, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
Thanks, enjoy your time off!
IconSmall Hamuul Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 08:57, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
Vacations at Spain! I'm from Spain! I leave at Spain! Tongueout
Let me guess: Mallorca or Canarias xDDD.
Anyway, we've a good list of request up there, and another one at the races icons. We seriously need some of those, man, and I think I won't be the only one agreeing you're the best maker around here.
Of course, if you have time.--Lon-ami (talk) 16:37, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
Actually, I am in Basque Country, 1.5 hours south of San Sebastian attending a choir festival :) I will be making some of those icons when I can at home - plane leaves in 2 days --User:Varghedin/Sig 12:06, October 31, 2009 (UTC)
WHoA. I live in Bilbao, man xDDD (1 hour road San Sebastian).
You just rocked mah head.
Have a good time at the festival, and don't worry about the icons, make them when you can Winky.--Lon-ami (talk) 12:24, October 31, 2009 (UTC)
Hah, that is too funny cause I think we are going to Bilbao today. We are performing in Igorre tonight and I think we are headed to Bilbao first to go to the Gugenheim museum. Our hostel is in Alsasua and the contest itself is held in Tolosa. Getting on the bus headed towards your place in 15 mins XD --User:Varghedin/Sig 13:13, October 31, 2009 (UTC)
Mah gawd, life is freaking unexpectable xDDD.
Well, good luck with the contest. About Guggenheim... well, I think they don't have any good exposition right now, so you'll see the basic "modern art" stuff... :P.
Looking forward opinions about my city :d. We could meet and whatever, but I guess you don't have time, and my spoken eng is just awful. Also, blame university and work overdose. Anyway, if you have free time around or something and want tips for toursim or whatever, add me to msn and ask; I'll be online the entire day ;).--Lon-ami (talk) 13:52, October 31, 2009 (UTC)
As you said, we were on a pretty strict time regimen, and did not have time to sightsee beyond the Guggeheim museum. I liked the building itself a lot, but most of the art inside was kind of meh. I ended up taking only pictures of the architecture XD. The city itself was cool, much bigger than I thought and not as close to the sea as I thought. I really liked the view we got as we approached the city from the south. You live in one of those tall red houses? Anyway, shouldnt spam this talk page with personal stuff too much but it was fun to be there :) --User:Varghedin/Sig 00:36, November 1, 2009 (UTC)
Red houses... depends on angle, but I think you could have been mostly right. Take this angle: from Guggenheim towards Spider statue. If you were referring to those red houses, yeah, I have a small "warehouse" there, but my house is a bit downer, like at the opposite side of that high-zone. Awesome you were around, anyway :P. And yeah, (agree with the art thing. You should have seen it when they brought the Aztec-Mayan exhibition :).
As for the icons (speaks about icons just to say something about the main topic xD) I'd wait a bit more, since I suspect we'll be having the patch release soon. That, or you could download the PTR and watch the models, or try to get the icons from pictures around the net.
Anyway: how did the contest end? :P--Lon-ami (talk) 18:07, November 3, 2009 (UTC)
Girl choir from Latvia won because the Dutch girls who got the most points were disqualified for being composed entirely of professional singers. We came in at 5th place. I'm using PTR screenshots as they get uploaded since there's a new model coming in every few days now. --User:Varghedin/Sig 12:11, November 4, 2009 (UTC)


Shouldn't we let the NYI tags for the dead characters? Uther was dead but appeared in CoT, Terenas is to appear in IC.

IconSmall Hamuul Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 10:12, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

I don't think it's appropriate to have a Not Yet In-game tag for deceased characters because we can't expect every dead character to show up in-game. If they do, they can receive a wotlk-inline or similar, but I don't think we should have a tag on them as if we're expecting them to show up unless we have accurate information they will. --User:Varghedin/Sig 12:07, November 4, 2009 (UTC)
I wouldn't even bother putting a tag for if they are deceased or not, just the expansion their model corresponds to.--Lon-ami (talk) 15:49, November 4, 2009 (UTC)
That was a way to split clearly the following categories of characters:
  • Deceased but never in-game
  • Deceased but vanilla wow
Because now, without the NYI, we a beginer cannot see the difference between those two cats.
IconSmall Hamuul Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 17:47, November 4, 2009 (UTC)
Edit: I added the WoW Icon 16x16 to split clearly, what do you think of it?
IconSmall Hamuul Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 17:47, November 4, 2009 (UTC)
I think it looks nice --User:Varghedin/Sig 17:26, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Dar'Khan DrathirEdit

Hmm. I made one, but like most b/w comic pics it's not really great quality. File:Dar'khan.gif

User:Varghedin/Sig 15:24, December 12, 2009 (UTC)

Not too bad, we still recognize him.
IconSmall Hamuul Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 16:02, December 12, 2009 (UTC)

Antonidas using Khadgar iconEdit

Is there any reason for this? I remember it was already reverted, and I saw it being put back to this again. As far as I know, Antonidas doesn't look like Khadgar, so having them share the icon is pretty pointless.--Lon-ami (talk) 20:47, December 13, 2009 (UTC)

Well Khadgar's model in WoW (and so his icon) is a transposition of the War3 Archmage in WoW, and Antonidas had the Archmage skin.
So using IconSmall Khadgar for any War3 archmage is (imo) pretty relevant.
IconSmall Hamuul Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 20:50, December 13, 2009 (UTC)
That was my thought also. Of course Antonidas and Khadgar don't look the same, but the Khadgar icon is a better approximation than the generic blonde human male icon. --User:Varghedin/Sig 23:07, December 13, 2009 (UTC)
I don't feel right using "approximates". Unique icons are unique for something. I'd leave him with the human male icon. The best solution, anyway, is to create a new icon for him, using W3 archmage or his monument at Dalaran. N'Nanz already reverted A'noob's changes.--Lon-ami (talk) 13:09, December 17, 2009 (UTC)
Antonidas is a male human so when a icon is needed for him the generic human male template must be used. Otherwise Drek'thar icon should be used for any old white haired orc, velen's one for every old draenei. A unique icon is made to represent the character for what it's intented. --N'Nanz (talk) 16:15, December 17, 2009 (UTC)
Drek'thar and Velen have none to do here.
Like I said before, Khadgar's model in WoW (and so his icon) is a transposition of the War3 Archmage in WoW, and Antonidas had the Archmage skin.
Anyway Antonidas ended up in the suggestion section.
IconSmall Hamuul Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 16:27, December 17, 2009 (UTC)


Was trying to make one for Korialstrasz's dragon form based on File:Korialstrasz_color.JPG but it came out like this IconSmall Korialstrasz. Can anyone help?Warthok Talk Contribs 12:28, December 28, 2009 (UTC)

ICC BossesEdit

Can we consider them dead once their wing has been opened to the public? Or shall we wait for the Lich King to fall or the next patch/expansion?

IconSmall Hamuul Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 18:04, December 30, 2009 (UTC)

Going by precedent, not until the next expansion. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 18:42, December 30, 2009 (UTC)


I made a try IconSmall Antonidas, do not hesitate to update it ^^

IconSmall Hamuul Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 12:25, January 3, 2010 (UTC)

Fine; already used it :P.--Lon-ami (talk) 12:35, January 3, 2010 (UTC)

I think its better something like File:Antonidas.jpg because the current one is not Antonidas-only related but every random archmage in WCIII had that same face. On the other hand the file I suggest is strictly for him. --N'Nanz (talk) 20:59, January 3, 2010 (UTC)

Auriaya and KologarnEdit

Can anyone make icons for those two? i'm trying to complete the titanic watchers page.--Ashbear160 (talk) 02:58, April 17, 2010 (UTC)

Kologarn is {{RaceIconExt|Kologarn}} IconSmall Kologarn
Auriaya is {{RaceIcon|Titan|Female}} IconSmall Titan Female
IconSmall Hamuul Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 09:28, April 17, 2010 (UTC)
I asked for Auriaya because she has a gold skin that differentiates her from the rest of titan models..., and i found out kologarn doesn't fit the definition, i still need the Auriaya icon trough--Ashbear160 (talk) 12:50, April 17, 2010 (UTC)

Cataclysm CharactersEdit

Sorry for any typos please correct if you see them wrong.
This is a list of models that are going to appear or be updated in cataclysm, or are marked as placeholder--Ashbear160 (talk) 15:14, July 21, 2010 (UTC)
I just removed the already existing ones that we have access to in-game to have them in the update list of the talk page.
IconSmall Hamuul Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 00:48, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

List updated--Ashbear160 (talk) 19:12, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

Garrosh IconsEdit

The old Garrosh Hellscream icon shuold be liked to File:IconSmall GarroshCata.gif beacause he looed quite diffrent then. Assey Westfall (talk) 22:01, March 18, 2015 (UTC)

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