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This says that chaos orcs lacked some of the mutations the fel orcs did, but in Wc3, fel orcs looked exactly the same as chaos orcs. [[User:Saimdusan|Saimdusan]] 23:17, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
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:No, Fel is worse than Chaos, they are both red but Fel has the tusks and spikes.--{{User:Sandwichman2448/Sig}} 23:22, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
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::Ya, most fel orcs have tusks and spikes. There were some tusks (not as many as seen on fel orcs in WoW) on some chaos-orcs in warcraft 3 but no larger than tusks seen on regular green orcs in the game.[[User:Baggins|Baggins]]
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:::I am not sure about Warcraft III, but in ''[[Monster Guide]]'' fel orc is another name for chaos orc. [[User:Rolandius|Rolandius]] [[Image:Paladin.gif|25px]] <small>([[User talk:Rolandius|<span title="Rolandius's Talk">talk</span>]] - [[Special:Contributions/Rolandius|<span title="Rolandius's Contributions">contr</span>]])</small> 03:53, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
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::::Chaos orc=Fel orc and Fel orc=Chaos orc. They are not as mutated because there are different stages of mutation in the fel orc as seen with a few fel orcs that look even more mutated than the ones a player would first encounter going into Hellfire Peninsula. [[User:Rolandius|Rolandius]] [[Image:Paladin.gif|25px]] <small>([[User talk:Rolandius|<span title="Rolandius's Talk">talk</span>]] - [[Special:Contributions/Rolandius|<span title="Rolandius's Contributions">contr</span>]])</small> 13:13, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
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Are there any of these in game? ([[User:Hallowseve15|Hallowseve15]] ([[User talk:Hallowseve15|talk]]))
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:Yes, all the orc units in WC3 have thier chaos counterpart. With the exception of the Farseer's and Thrall's model. [[User:Benitoperezgaldos|Benitoperezgaldos]] ([[User talk:Benitoperezgaldos|talk]]) 17:57, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
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::isn't Gargolmar a chaos orc? ([[User:Hallowseve15|Hallowseve15]] ([[User talk:Hallowseve15|talk]]) 18:00, 20 July 2009 (UTC))
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:::Well, he is a [[fel orc]]. The chaos orcs just appeared in [[Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos]], I don't think they are mentioned in WoW. [[User:Benitoperezgaldos|Benitoperezgaldos]] ([[User talk:Benitoperezgaldos|talk]]) 18:33, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
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::::Chaos orcs did not just appear in Warcraft III. They are shown in ''Monster Guide'' also remember? If you look at the game and RPG, "chaos orc" is just an a.k.a for "fel orc". They are one and the same. All fel orcs do not look the same though explaining why they don't all look as mutated. You have the ones that are red but have not mutated much like what happened to [[Grom]] for awhile. You have the slightly more mutated ones we meet in Outland. You also have ones like [[Gurtogg Bloodboil]] who is a heavily mutated fel orc. [[User:Rolandius|Rolandius]] [[Image:Paladin.gif|25px]] <small>([[User talk:Rolandius|<span title="Rolandius's Talk">talk</span>]] - [[Special:Contributions/Rolandius|<span title="Rolandius's Contributions">contr</span>]])</small> 02:15, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
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Can we call all red orcs of uncorruption, Chaos orcs? Easier for navigation? [[User:Hallowseve|Hallowseve]] ([[User talk:Hallowseve|talk]]) 22:59, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
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It is true that some orcs in HFP, and now some guarding the Dark Portal, are orcs with the normal orc model colored red. Are we counting these as chaos orcs, or are we counting them as fel orcs? It is also true that ''Monster Guide'' says fel and chaos orcs are the same. If so, why the appearance discrepancy?--{{User:Sandwichman2448/Sig}} 22:42, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

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Old discussion

This says that chaos orcs lacked some of the mutations the fel orcs did, but in Wc3, fel orcs looked exactly the same as chaos orcs. Saimdusan 23:17, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

No, Fel is worse than Chaos, they are both red but Fel has the tusks and spikes.--SWM2448 23:22, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
Ya, most fel orcs have tusks and spikes. There were some tusks (not as many as seen on fel orcs in WoW) on some chaos-orcs in warcraft 3 but no larger than tusks seen on regular green orcs in the game.Baggins
I am not sure about Warcraft III, but in Monster Guide fel orc is another name for chaos orc. Rolandius Paladin (talk - contr) 03:53, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
Chaos orc=Fel orc and Fel orc=Chaos orc. They are not as mutated because there are different stages of mutation in the fel orc as seen with a few fel orcs that look even more mutated than the ones a player would first encounter going into Hellfire Peninsula. Rolandius Paladin (talk - contr) 13:13, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

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Are there any of these in game? (Hallowseve15 (talk))

Yes, all the orc units in WC3 have thier chaos counterpart. With the exception of the Farseer's and Thrall's model. Benitoperezgaldos (talk) 17:57, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
isn't Gargolmar a chaos orc? (Hallowseve15 (talk) 18:00, 20 July 2009 (UTC))
Well, he is a fel orc. The chaos orcs just appeared in Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos, I don't think they are mentioned in WoW. Benitoperezgaldos (talk) 18:33, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
Chaos orcs did not just appear in Warcraft III. They are shown in Monster Guide also remember? If you look at the game and RPG, "chaos orc" is just an a.k.a for "fel orc". They are one and the same. All fel orcs do not look the same though explaining why they don't all look as mutated. You have the ones that are red but have not mutated much like what happened to Grom for awhile. You have the slightly more mutated ones we meet in Outland. You also have ones like Gurtogg Bloodboil who is a heavily mutated fel orc. Rolandius Paladin (talk - contr) 02:15, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Cataclysm

Can we call all red orcs of uncorruption, Chaos orcs? Easier for navigation? Hallowseve (talk) 22:59, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Reviving the above

It is true that some orcs in HFP, and now some guarding the Dark Portal, are orcs with the normal orc model colored red. Are we counting these as chaos orcs, or are we counting them as fel orcs? It is also true that Monster Guide says fel and chaos orcs are the same. If so, why the appearance discrepancy?--SWM2448 22:42, 20 January 2011 (UTC)