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Re: Server? Edit

I play across a variety of servers; recently I've been playing on Durotan, Maiev (PvP), and Wymrest Accord (RP). I use Durotan a lot for work, but the latter two are my "downtime" servers. Just so you know, though, I generally keep communication confined to the wiki and not the game ;) Raylan13@fandom (talk) 20:56, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

Ogre Edit

Ogres would be awesome. The only classes they couldn't be would be Priest, Druid, or Rogue. I don't know how a 3rd faction would work. Maybe have a Good, Neutral, Evil alignment, like EverQuest. Zmario 21:44, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Dun Morogh Edit

Nope - just helping out someone with updates and formatting. Back to the Lost Isles for me. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 18:40, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

Game Edit

Everything I do related to Warcraft is primarily on this site; also, there's not much free time I can devote to other things atm. I'll have to respectfully decline your offer, though it is appreciated. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 01:27, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

NPC levels Edit

I reverted the level change for Aggra, because it would be pretty confusing to someone coming in to see that she's level 85 with less than 200 health. If you see NPCs that have multiple levels depending on location, just make it a level range (i.e. 10-85) in the infobox, and then make the level/mana changes to match in the same fashion. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 14:06, June 16, 2011 (UTC)

Also for pages, in-game screenshots are preferred, as per image policy. Other pics are fine, of course, but they shouldn't be used to replace those that are taken in the game. I popped the .png for Aggra down into a Media section; I assume it's her with the Earthen Ring, so I labeled it as such. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 14:24, June 18, 2011 (UTC)
Thrall would be under the same rule, yeah. By and large, the in-game ss or official artwork should take precedence; if there's no available pic, though, then a model viewer shot would be just fine, and there's nothing saying such shots can't be popped into a media section, either. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 16:00, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

Just wanted to offer a prime example of when a model viewer pic is more than appropriate to use. I popped one into Dark Ranger Elite because I neglected to grab a ss at the time of the battle; that, and the rangers tend to gallop around pretty quickly. So I put in a mv pic, but then tagged the article with the ss needed message. The article also shows why mv shots aren't preferred, because the Rangers encountered are always mounted - the mv shot neglects to show any sort of mount. ;) Raylan13@fandom (talk) 20:03, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

Pictures Edit

I'm not sure exactly what you mean by what do I use, but it's just a matter of taking an in-game ss (usually "print screen") and then editing them in any sort of picture program to resize, etc. I use Corel Paint Shop Pro X2, but even the simplest program should suffice. As for getting close to the mobs in order to take a picture, it's easiest with either a Rogue ([Stealth]), Hunter ([Eagle Eye]/[Camouflage]), or a Shaman ([Far Sight]). Obviously a Druid could be used while in cat form to stealth around as well. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 20:50, August 6, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for adding Tier 13 images Edit

I've been too lazy to upload them. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 27 Sep 2011 11:51 AM Pacific

Chat Edit

Sorry I missed you. I'm at work, so I couldn't chat for more than a minute or two. Maybe I'll see you on chat sometime when I'm not at work. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 28 Sep 2011 1:19 PM Pacific

Ditto here. I'll keep an eye open if you happen to pop into chat while I'm on, but if it's something that can be discussed off-chat, don't hesitate to post on either of our talk pages. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 01:03, September 30, 2011 (UTC)

WoWWiki titles? Edit

I'm not sure what you mean. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 4 Nov 2011 2:17 PM Pacific

Oh, you mean wordmarks. See Category:WoWWiki logos. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 4 Nov 2011 6:40 PM Pacific

Orgrimmar thief Edit

Actually, I have seen one of them when I was working on my cooking daily. They're the objective of Even Thieves Get Hungry, which we apparently don't have a page for. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 01:18, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Pictures... Edit

Unless it's something else you're asking (and feel free to elaborate if it is) I answered this question a few sections up. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 01:32, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Well, what do you mean? Winky I'm not sure what you're asking exactly. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 01:45, November 5, 2011 (UTC)
It's just a matter of getting close to the NPC/mob (either physically, or with the abilities I've noted in the previous Pictures section) and hitting alt+z to hide your interface. Scroll in so that you are in first person view, however you do that with your system - mine is with the mouse wheel. Then you can hit "print screen". The screenshot will be saved to your computer, usually in the Screenshots folder of your World of Warcraft folder. Then rename them (a must, as per policy) and crop them down to close around the NPC/mob. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 02:04, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Glad to help! And any help is always appreciated. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 02:13, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

The starting zones can use a once-over. Gnome and troll probably need it the most, if you're game. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 04:15, November 5, 2011 (UTC)
Trolls sound good. I find the best thing to do is start in a small area, gather up the names, and check the database. See if any need added/updated and go from there. Avoids a lot of unnecessary work. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 04:25, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Don't worry too much. To be honest, there's always going to be something to update. There's still content from Wrath of the Lich King and The Burning Crusade that could be fleshed out. Every little bit helps. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 04:43, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Chat is spotty at best for me. I'm on now, but only for a very short time. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 06:42, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Screenshots Edit

Sure, that sounds good, if you're not quite comfortable making the NPC/mob pages yourself. I'd put them as a subpage of your user page, though, otherwise your user page is going to get big pretty quick. I can snag the pics as I move along, then delete those subpages once everything's carried over to the individual NPC/mob pages. TBH, it will take a little while, as I'm working somewhat with a set schedule for updating zones. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 20:39, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Nice! They look good. What I meant by creating a subpage is that you could put them at User:RaceLord/Echo Isles as a separate page, then make subpages for other zones you might do. It's entirely up to you, of course, but they look nice either way! Raylan13@fandom (talk) 21:16, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

I'm here, but have to concentrate on what I'm doing for the next hour. Trying to get through some sections before I call it a day. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 23:11, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

The next patch should be pretty fun. Darkmoon Faire, transmogrification and void storage, not to mention new dungeons. Of course, Mists of Pandaria is likely coming next year with a host of changes. Looking forward to that. Anyway, going for the evening - pics look good and are very much appreciated! Raylan13@fandom (talk) 00:00, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Winterspring Edit

Since the Cataclysm, there's a big chasm between Winterspring and Mount Hyjal, I believe where Darkwhisper Gorge runs. There used to be a bridge there, but this was destroyed. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 01:32, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

For the sake of the section, gaining access by dying isn't counted. Those sections have to do with how to directly get from zone a to zone b without any sort of trick. Flying is still included on there. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 01:49, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Here Edit

I am currently working, but off-site for a little bit. I can still converse via talk page, however. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 01:26, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

Ha - don't know exactly, but I do know I'm nearing the character cap. Maybe 40? Equal split Horde/Alliance. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 01:35, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

Not tonight ;) It's actually very rare I jump on chat, just because I'm buried in things I need to work on. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 02:14, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

Eh, even if I wanted to, it's against the rules. Players aren't supposed to share accounts, unless they happen to be parent/child. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 02:37, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe sometime in the future. Right now all I do in the game has to do with work Winky. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 04:22, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

Yep, on. Just busy tonight! Raylan13@fandom (talk) 04:25, November 11, 2011 (UTC)

Working through my last bit for tonight, so busy. If there's anything you need, though, you can always leave a message on my talk page and I'll see what I can do! Raylan13@fandom (talk) 04:38, November 17, 2011 (UTC)

Can't do it, sorry. Like I said before, it's against the rules for anyone other than a minor of an account holder to share an account, even for the purposes you are describing. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 04:50, November 17, 2011 (UTC)

You cannot do anything on an account that isn't yours, which includes just logging in. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 05:09, November 17, 2011 (UTC)

Removed File:Deadmines Warlock Run (name Pic).jpg from Deadmines gallery Edit

It didn't seem to have any particular informational purpose. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 11 Nov 2011 10:24 PM Pacific

Orgrimmar Thief Edit

Take a look at the formatting and updating. Not a bad first attempt; if there's any questions you have, let me know. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 04:03, November 18, 2011 (UTC)

Recent uploads Edit

First, as always, thanks for the work you're putting in. There's a few things to note that will help, however.

  • First, you'll find a lot of information you need at
  • For item icons, go to wowhead and find the item, then click on the item's icon image. A little box will pop up, and its contents are what you copy and paste into the image field. We've got the majority of icons already loaded here; if you find there's one that isn't here, just let us know and we'll upload it.
  • You'll also find other parts of the quest page that were missing, such as Description, Progress, and Completion sections which always have to be included (on rare occasions some will be without)
  • For images, less is usually more. This makes less work for you and makes the page less cluttered. If it's a quest that needs pics, usually good things to include are cutscenes and any items you need to gather. Pics that make more work for you but that aren't really needed are loot text boxes, looting animations, and bag contents. These are things that players are already familiar with. Quest text goes along with this, as we put that in writing rather than via image.
  • Maps are great, but not always needed. This is kind of a "if you want to, go ahead". We have a coordinates template that will show locations on the map of a particular zone, so if an item is pretty much in one location, all we need to use is that. If you go to Borstan's Firepit page, for instance, you'll see there are coordinates there, and a map will pop up when you hover over them. If items are scattered across an area, it's not a bad idea to make a map, but only if you really have the time/inclination.

I think that's pretty much it for now. The images you're taking are pretty good and cropped nicely, so keep up the good work! A good page to review for all sorts of information on the types of pages here is the Boilerplates page. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 02:23, November 19, 2011 (UTC)

I didn't even see the anniversary announcement until now. Pretty cool... Raylan13@fandom (talk) 02:49, November 19, 2011 (UTC)

Not for too much longer. Just focusing on getting through some content. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 06:59, November 19, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the invite, but I've got little time out of work. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 04:29, November 23, 2011 (UTC)

Pretty much. A lot to get done. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 03:36, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for working on templates Edit

We'll need alot more people helping when we get closer to the Mists of Pandaria release (assuming some of us get in the Beta). I'll probably be working on Patch 4.3 stuff for awhile. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 30 Nov 2011 9:20 AM Pacific

Ditto here. Template looks nice! Raylan13@fandom (talk) 03:10, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

4.3 Edit

Sure thing. Anything you can do to help would be appreciated! Raylan13@fandom (talk) 03:00, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

I think it's End Time, Dragon Soul (green), and then Hour of Twilight. Well of Eternity is somewhere across the main room. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 03:21, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Darkmoon Faire Edit

I'll probably hit that on Monday and spend the majority of the week on that. If you'd like to get a jump on it tomorrow, though, that'd be great. Oh, and good morning (afternoon now). Head's buried in code... Raylan13@fandom (talk) 22:40, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Something like that. Just used [Eagle Eye] for the pic. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 00:14, December 4, 2011 (UTC)
I'll be doing Darkmoon updates here and there, but I have not previewed it on PTR, so I'm a little behind. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 3 Dec 2011 10:44 PM Pacific

Becoming an administrator Edit

We will need to get more feedback from the community (I will put up a community corner notice soon), but Raylan13 and I have talked about making you a Moderator even if you aren't made an admin right away. This is a new kind of group that we haven't fully defined yet and currently has no members. It will have some special rights above normal users, but we haven't finalized which ones yet. The plan is to give it to users who are very active and have special wiki responsibilities for keep certain areas or subjects of the wiki up-to-date.

We'll let you know more as it comes together. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 5 Dec 2011 6:14 PM Pacific

Arch and DMF Edit

Archaeology is learned at level 20. It says about half to three quarters of the way down the page. As for the Faire, I'll be stepping in tonight to gather up information, etc. Don't know if I'll end up actually posting much, as my method is to gather up a certain amount of information and then present it. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 01:25, December 6, 2011 (UTC)

You also need the Cataclysm expansion installed. Forgot to mention that. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 02:11, December 6, 2011 (UTC)
Unfortunately not. You'll have to snag the Battlechest (includes original + TBC), then Wrath, and then Cata. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 02:43, December 6, 2011 (UTC)

Screenshots Edit

For future reference, if there's already a screenshot on the page, please don't completely remove it unless it's a clearly superior pic (like the Torg Drakeflayer page). If you've got one that's just different, put it into a media section. By and large we want to stay away from removing content. If you're unsure, just put it into a media section. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 01:33, December 7, 2011 (UTC)

I did see that, but I don't have any two-person mounts. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 02:53, December 7, 2011 (UTC)
Nope. RAF is for when one person has a full account and another person doesn't. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 03:53, December 7, 2011 (UTC)

Darkmoon Faire Edit

Sure, go ahead. Just put them in a gallery-formatted media section for now. I'm still shifting things around/adding things, so I can spread them out once I get finished. NPC pics should go on their own pages, of course. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 04:31, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

Good idea! I'll take a look at those probably tomorrow and start plugging things in. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 04:38, December 9, 2011 (UTC)
Got it - fyi, the games within the DMF shouldn't have the brackets around them; they aren't "subzones" of the island, so won't have their own pages. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 04:56, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

The pics would go on the quest pages that are related to the games. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 15:38, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

Raid of Stormwind Edit

As cool as it would be, Blizz is unlikely to do it unless an equivalent raid for Alliance could be thought up. Alliance raiding SW doesn't really make much sense. Also, a SW raid would probably have to happen in Caverns of Time, so the Alliance raid would probably have to be in the past also. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 9 Dec 2011 5:45 PM Pacific

Not sure how you could get the Well of Eternity dungeon confused with a SW raid. The night elves were fighting other night elves plus lots of demons. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 9 Dec 2011 6:05 PM Pacific

Player pages Edit

For pages that look like they're Player character pages, we typically give the benefit of the doubt and don't delete them or mark them with the speedy delete tag. We'll move them to a subpage of the user, let them know, and let them know about the existing player character policy so they can add the required information. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 01:33, December 10, 2011 (UTC)

Faire Edit

Yep, filling things out now. I've got all the screenshots, and I'm sorting through the ones you have as I go. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 06:14, December 10, 2011 (UTC)

There are quite a few. Those two I missed as I went through. The ones that I've got are all listed in the NPC section of the Darkmoon Faire page. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 06:51, December 10, 2011 (UTC)

Haha, yeah, pretty much. Once I get going, not much can pull me away. Except for when my time's up, like now. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 08:05, December 10, 2011 (UTC)

Just getting as much done today as I can before I have to leave. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 21:22, December 10, 2011 (UTC)

Other active users Edit

It could be better, but Andy542112817, Corgi, Sclera1, and Vilnisr have made some good contributions and are decently active. WoWWiki has a steep hill to climb back up from after the Wowpedia split. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 15 Dec 2011 9:51 PM Pacific

Faire time Edit

Yep. I'm finishing up WV today, then finishing up the Faire over the next few days. Should be finished well before it starts up again. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 01:06, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

Should have them all, or most of them. Between what you've got on your page and what I've got saved on my own comp. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 05:56, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

Animals Edit

Of all the NPCs/mobs, yeah. I'll zip through the associated achievements, then the Faire is done for the most part. If there's anything left, it'll be small stuff. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 02:19, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Got it - thanks! Raylan13@fandom (talk) 04:35, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

To do? Edit

I'm out for the day, but all the 1-20 zones need to run through and updated. Some won't have much, but others will take some work. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 18:20, December 28, 2011 (UTC)

So long as there's no NDA for the beta, you can take and post pictures. Usually it's a closed alpha (NDA in effect) and open beta (no NDA). You can take pictures in either, but can't share them if there's an NDA. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 02:46, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

Play Edit

I'm still primarily logging in only to work atm, so it will be a while until that changes. Did you the email I sent you? Raylan13@fandom (talk) 01:20, March 6, 2012 (UTC)

I sent an email to the account linked to your user name, the one you used to register with. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 04:39, March 6, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for adding Tier 14 images Edit

Where did you get them? --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 24 Sep 2012 4:41 PM Pacific

Pics Edit

Your recent contributions are very good quality. If you have some time and want to do some exploring in the game, here's the list of already-created pages that need screenshots. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 15:26, September 30, 2012 (UTC)

If you run across any pages in that last that actually have pics - or you provide pics for - just delete the {{ss}} template at the top of the page to remove the tag. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 10:52, October 1, 2012 (UTC)

Invitation Edit

Especially in light of the recent massive upload of unique quality pics you had for the Shrine of Seven Stars as well as the work you've done, we'd like to award you with the Experts badge in Images. You can read more about the badge here. There's still some things to learn, but you've got a good chunk of it down and don't seem hesitant about asking questions.

Also, if you're interested, we'd like to promote you to a Patroller. This would give you a little more power to fight vandalism whenever you might come across it. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 01:47, October 23, 2012 (UTC)

Welcome back! We still need some help with screenshots. No need to go in order, of course; just peruse them and go for those that either interest you or your characters are already near. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 16:25, January 26, 2013 (UTC)

Mega Bloks, etc Edit

Sure, why not? We already have a Mega Bloks page, but as you can see it's a blurb at best. No reason to not flesh it out a little with pics and everything. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 02:44, January 30, 2013 (UTC)

Seems like a good idea if they're sold in sets like that. Throw a message onto Fandyllic's talk page and see what he thinks. He's very good at template/infobox work. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 05:37, January 30, 2013 (UTC)
It's good to see the Mega Bloks stuff being expanded.... now if only we could get someone who's really into the TCG or PnP RPG... anyways, thanks for adding the Mega Bloks stuff. If you need any template help, don't hesitate to ask. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 30 Jan 2013 4:40 PM Pacific

Template:Megaset Edit

It might be best, if you just make an example table at Template talk:Megaset of how you want the infobox to look and I'll make one based on another template. Trying to convert an existing template can be difficult. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 30 Jan 2013 7:21 PM Pacific

Draw a picture or just make a table... here's an example of table wikicode:
{| class="darktable" style="float:right;" width="240px"
|- valign="middle"
!colspan="2" style="font-size:120%; line-height:36px;"|<span style="float:left;">{{factionIcon2|AllianceNPC}}</span> 91001 Colton
|align="center" colspan="2"|[[File:91001_Colton_1.png|200px]]
!align="right" style="background-color:#222; width:40%;"|Title
|| ''Title''
!align="right" style="background-color:#222;"|Race
| ''Race''
!align="right" style="background-color:#222;"|Level
| ''Level''
!align="right" style="background-color:#222;"|Release Date
| ''Release Date''
!align="right" style="background-color:#222;"|Location
| ''Location''
Output looks like this →
AllianceNPC 32 91001 Colton
91001 Colton 1
Title Title
Race Race
Level Level
Release Date Release Date
Location Location
--Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 30 Jan 2013 10:11 PM Pacific

Archiving Edit

Hey RaceLord, would you be fine with us archiving your adminship nomination? PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 00:10, February 6, 2013 (UTC)

Hearthstone (game) updates Edit

Thanks for continuing to update info about the Hearthstone game. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 11 Apr 2013 3:24 PM Pacific

Hey Edit

Unfortunately I'm not as active here as I was, though I try to squeeze in as many hours as I can after finished with other work. Hearthstone looks pretty fun - hope to make it into the beta to put some minor updates here, then help with fleshing out our sister site. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 00:10, April 12, 2013 (UTC)

Poke Edit

I wanted to make sure you had read this post. Let me know either way! Raylan13@fandom (talk) 17:01, June 7, 2013 (UTC)

RE:Completed Edit

I got them all right. :P Irnakk

Merry Christmas Edit

...and Happy Hollidays Winky. Celess (talk) 22:52, December 24, 2013 (UTC)

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