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Hey, I was going through some of the old forums and I have a question. I saw that nearly all of the admins left before, and I was wondering what made you stay. I know it's a sensitive subject so I will not take offense if you don't wish to talk about it. Thanks. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 23:54, January 3, 2013 (UTC)

It's not that sensitive and I've been asked this question a few times before. The summary answer is that I wasn't that friendly with alot of the main admins that led the charge to go to what became Wowpedia and I thought WoWWiki still had some life in it. I also work on a bunch of other Wikia wikis, so it would be kind of strange to ignore WoWWiki. Also, I have met Raylan13 and he's a really good person. He really does alot more work than I do and he would kind of be alone at WoWWiki, if I left. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 3 Jan 2013 4:54 PM Pacific
Oh ok. That makes sense. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 01:39, January 4, 2013 (UTC)


hey Fandyllic I have a question. For articles marked Speedy Delete with a valid reason, should I delete them? I am asking as I saw that you added the Sd tag to a guild page today, but didn't delete it. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 03:06, January 7, 2013 (UTC)

If you want to delete {{sd}} tagged items, go ahead. Please make sure the speedy delete reason given is still valid before you delete, though. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 7 Jan 2013 12:06 PM Pacific
Will do! PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 20:08, January 7, 2013 (UTC)
I feel a bit slow, but what does 'dup' mean? PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 20:26, January 7, 2013 (UTC)
Short for "duplicate". --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 7 Jan 2013 12:27 PM Pacific
Ah! Tongueout PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 20:28, January 7, 2013 (UTC)


Hey Fandyllic, I already thanked Raylan, but I also wanted to thank you for promoting me to moderator. Is there anything that you noticed that I could improve on? PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 23:59, January 7, 2013 (UTC)

The thanks should all go to Raylan. He recommended and I just agreed. See User_talk:RyanPT#Areas_to_focus_on. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 7 Jan 2013 5:01 PM Pacific
I meant have you noticed anything about my edits I need to improve on, but as soon as I finish updating the professions I will get right on the raids and instances. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 01:31, January 8, 2013 (UTC)

Image screenshot

My apologies, I will be sure to tag the article correctly in the future. Thanks for the clarification. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 21:58, January 10, 2013 (UTC)

Those generically named screenshots bug me too, but I know most people never read the policy pages. Also, until Wikia says, "WoWWiki is taking up too much hard drive space!" I'm not too worried about user images as long as they are relevant to Warcraft. I go through about once a month and try to delete the really worthless user images, but sometimes I let unused ones stay for a long time after they probably should have been deleted. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 10 Jan 2013 2:03 PM Pacific


I was looking into some stuff and I kept seeing IRC pop up. Is it still being used? PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 23:11, January 11, 2013 (UTC)

Yes, but I almost never go there. I don't think Wikia has an official IRC site anymore (hence w:Help:IRC), but Wikia users still hang out at freenode. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 11 Jan 2013 3:18 PM Pacific
See w:Community Central:IRC channels. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 11 Jan 2013 3:19 PM Pacific
Ok PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 23:20, January 11, 2013 (UTC)


Can you please give me some username ideas? I believe myself to be... an above average editor, but I can't come up with a username that will stick/a username that really like. It seems that everyone else has all of the cool and unique usernames, to me at least. I'd really appreciate it if you could give me some ideas. {{SUBST:User:Vadske/Signature}} 01:53, January 21, 2013 (UTC)


Is it only on user pages that people are free to advertise unrelated things? Or are there other permissible locations? PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 04:00, January 21, 2013 (UTC)

Mentioning is not necessarily advertising. User talk pages sometimes can range off-topic. User subpages can be used for opp-topic things if they are like lists or sandboxes. A WoWWiki:Sandbox pages can be used, because they are used with the knowledge that anything in them can be wiped out. Other than that I can't think of anything.
The key issue is external linking and obvious, outright advertising (a full sentence or more). A few words here and there does little harm. is basically a 90% copy of WoWWiki and they still only have half or less the traffic rating than us. They are gaining, however. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 21 Jan 2013 9:05 AM Pacific
Ok I understand, thanks. Oh and really? I was under the assumption that they had the higher traffic rating, on account of both WowInsider and now link to Wowpedia. That's interesting. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 18:59, January 21, 2013 (UTC)
I don't think the and WoW Insider links are the main reason Wowpedia is gaining on WoWWiki, because they had that early on. Wowpedia definitely has better boss and instance pages than WoWWiki at this point and I think that is driving most of their growth. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 22 Jan 2013 11:50 AM Pacific
Well after I finish with the raid achievement pages i'm working on then I will see if there is anything I can contribute to those pages. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 22:12, January 22, 2013 (UTC)

Item boilerplate

Hey Fandyllic, I was wondering if there was any way to change the template of the item boilerplate. Blizzard changed the style of their tooltips as I am sure you know, and I was wondering if it would be simple for us to do the same. Thanks. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 19:53, January 29, 2013 (UTC)

It would not be simple (may involve JavaScript changes), but I might be able to do it. If you could take some screenshots of the various new tooltip examples to work off of, I could start working on it. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 30 Jan 2013 12:00 PM Pacific
Will do! PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 20:11, January 30, 2013 (UTC)
Here they are, sorry it took so long but I've been exhausted.

Hope they help. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 02:05, February 1, 2013 (UTC)

Is the text in orange from an addon (bags, equipped, and total lines)? I don't remember seeing that. Raylan13@Wikia (talk) 02:25, February 1, 2013 (UTC)
Yes that is from an addon called Bagnon I believe. I meant to cut it out... Oops. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 02:31, February 1, 2013 (UTC)
Those screenshots should be enough to start on. If you can get some of non-armor, non-weapon items (bags, glyphs, recipes, etc.) that look different, that would be helpful as well. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 1 Feb 2013 12:27 PM Pacific
Sure, should be up within the hour. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 20:40, February 1, 2013 (UTC)

Here are the new images:

I don't know if all of them are different from the old style, but I believe most of them are. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 22:08, February 1, 2013 (UTC)

Started working on new toolitp template at Template:Tooltip/Mists. Related CSS updates are at User:Fandyllic/wikia.css. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 5 Feb 2013 3:18 PM Pacific
Great. Once my exams are over i'm going to have to sit down for a few hours and figure out the basics of template coding. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 23:27, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

Mega Bloks

ya, i'm going to add the other pages and pictures in sometime soon, should the other figures in the 5 Part Mega Bloks WoW Stopmotion have pages? They are mostly Ragerock without the torso clothes and different armor, black hair blood elf DK, and some others. --RaceLord (talk)

Unless a figure is uniquely identified, I wouldn't make a separate page for it. If you see a unique figure that appears to be based of an existing one, but the figure doesn't have a name, just put that info in a "Notes" section of the figure it resembles. You could make a single page for Unidentified Mega Bloks figures, I suppose and throw all the info there. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 30 Jan 2013 5:28 PM Pacific
ya thats a good idea, could you help me with Template:Megaset, I can only get Released Date to work --RaceLord (talk)
you mean like draw a picture of a idea i think it should look like? --RaceLord (talk)
oh, i can at least make a doodle of a design for the info box, i can have it done in 5-10 minutes --RaceLord (talk)
sorry took me longer to make it because i'm watching stuff on my TV,
Idea for Box
this is my Basic Idea, of course it would be the same design as the one thats already there, but with the design i made. --RaceLord (talk)
There was no hurry, because I was busy (or sleeping), but I can work with that. I'll probably make it match our existing infoboxes in style, but it seems very similar to what I posted on your talk page. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 31 Jan 2013 11:02 AM Pacific
You're doing a great job on the pages, so I'm glad you like the infobox. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 31 Jan 2013 2:09 PM Pacific

Nice work on the Box, i went to the 2 pages already made, 91001 Colton and 91003 Ragerock, and edited them, it looks good dude. --RaceLord (talk)


Thank you for your support! PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 01:36, February 1, 2013 (UTC)

Looking forward to piling admin maintenance tasks on you! Winky --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 31 Jan 2013 5:40 PM Pacific
Bring them on. Grin PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 01:42, February 1, 2013 (UTC)

Mega Bloks 2

How you think the Mega Bloks World of Warcraft page is coming out so far? --RaceLord (talk)

Looks good, but I will make the tables fit in width by shrinking the images a little. Also if the page gets too big we might want to split out some stuff like the items. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 3 Feb 2013 8:19 AM Pacific

Moving pages

Hey Fandyllic. How do you move pages without leaving a redirect? I saw Raylan do it so I know it can be done. Thanks PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 01:51, February 4, 2013 (UTC)

On the same note, do we want mods to have the suppressredirect right? I noticed they didn't, but they can move pages. Raylan13@Wikia (talk) 16:47, February 4, 2013 (UTC)
Not sure how important suppressredirect is. Why do you think mods need this right? --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 4 Feb 2013 12:16 PM Pacific

I don't necessarily, just saw they had the power to move pages, but would always include a redirect. Didn't remember if that was intentional or not. Raylan13@Wikia (talk) 20:42, February 4, 2013 (UTC)


Hey, just heard we might not be seeing as much of Raylan. That's going to suck. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 06:16, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

I don't think it's going to be that bad, but he will be missed when he's not contributing as much. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 5 Feb 2013 9:46 AM Pacific
Yeah. Have you heard anything from Wikia about anyone else helping out? PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 18:34, February 5, 2013 (UTC)
Not likely. I'm not sure, but Raylan's situation was already sort of extraordinary. Unfortunately, the forking of a wiki from Wikia because they were not responsive to the community is not extraordinary, just uncommon (see Anti-Wikia Alliance's list of moved wikis. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 5 Feb 2013 3:48 PM Pacific
I'm a bit confused, did WoWWiki fork from Wikia? Who isn't responsive to the community? (I looked at the moved wiki list) PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 00:05, February 6, 2013 (UTC)

Old adminship nominations

Hey Fandyllic, I noticed Racelord was wondering if the old nominations for adminship should be archived. They are from 2011. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 21:34, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

Probably, but it doesn't hurt to leave them. You could ask specific nominees if it's okay to archive their nominations. If they say yes or don't reply in say a week, you can archive them. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 5 Feb 2013 3:43 PM Pacific
OK. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 00:08, February 6, 2013 (UTC)

Admin announcement

I have to admit, i'm very excited Grin. When you say promote feedback, what do you mean exactly? I am quite friendly and personable so I am planning on doing my best to welcome and promote users to edit and ask questions. I may be able to get a few of my personal friends to start contributing also. I would very much appreciate it if you made a page detailing the tasks and abilities of an admin. Also, I feel I should mention that I have two midterm exams on Friday, so I will probably only be able to really contribute in the evenings till I write them. Thanks for giving me this opportunity. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 03:32, February 6, 2013 (UTC)

Damn that is a lot of abilities on the admin dashboard. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 20:59, February 6, 2013 (UTC)
Don't go crazy. Winky ...and don't feel pressure to to do alot right away. Quality edits trump quantity most of the time. If you focus on doing stuff that helps as many other users as possible, that is a good guideline.
Feel free to ask questions about special pages. One that is not well known, but helpful is Special:LinkSearch. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 6 Feb 2013 1:15 PM Pacific
How do you check a user's IP? I also blocked a user that was only posting spam and an Elink on their user page, yet when I look at the block log, it shows something about an Autoblock that I don't see anywhere else. What is this? PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 21:19, February 6, 2013 (UTC)
I only ask about the IP because I am curious how you can tell when a user is a "sock". PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 22:42, February 6, 2013 (UTC)
You need the user right checkuser (or maybe checkuser-global at Wikia). Raylan probably has that as staff, but I don't so I have no idea how it works. Sorry. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 6 Feb 2013 2:58 PM Pacific
Oh ok. Thought I was going blind. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 23:05, February 6, 2013 (UTC)

Name change

Hey Fandyllic I have a question; how does user name changing work exactly? Would the new user name have the same edit count and information as the old one? I only ask because I am a little annoyed at using my real name with my user name. I'd prefer it if I could use something that would be a little more anonymous. I know that you have this power, being a bureaucrat, but I do not know how difficult this would be to accomplish. If it is a hassle than don't worry about it. Thanks PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 04:29, February 6, 2013 (UTC)

I've heard the rename tool might be broken recently, but I believe it usually works pretty seamlessly. Do you want to hold off on the admin promotion until you have a name change? You may want to use Special:Contact/rename-account to do it and maybe they'll tell you it is currently broken. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 6 Feb 2013 8:51 AM Pacific
Nah, I thought about it and it's fine. I changed my signature so that's good enough for me. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 17:48, February 6, 2013 (UTC)


Would you mind terribly if I removed the Cataclysm content on the Portal:Main page and added Cataclysm to the list of previous expansions? I am running out of space on the main page for the new Mists of Pandaria content. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 04:17, February 7, 2013 (UTC)

Sure, go ahead and remove it. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 6 Feb 2013 8:35 PM Pacific
Will do. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 04:37, February 7, 2013 (UTC)


Hey can you take a look at the Block list for me? There are two records of something called "autoblock" that supposedly I initiated. What does this mean? PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 19:27, February 7, 2013 (UTC)

I don't see this in the block logs. Can you give me the name of a user you blocked that has this info in the log? --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 7 Feb 2013 1:28 PM Pacific
Stacyking1, here is a photo of it:
PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 22:01, February 7, 2013 (UTC)
Ahh okay. The block list is different from the block log. What you are seeing is probably an attempt by someone with the same IP as the blocked user trying to edit or create an account. You could ask at Special:Contact/general to get the definitive answer or maybe someone at VSTF wiki knows. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 7 Feb 2013 2:17 PM Pacific
Oh Ok. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 22:30, February 7, 2013 (UTC)


I'm not sure what to make of the changes a user made to Template:Guildbox. Would you mind taking a look? Thanks. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 22:48, February 7, 2013 (UTC)

They just added a "founded=" field. A nice touch actually. I updated the docs. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 7 Feb 2013 7:27 PM Pacific
Yeah I saw that, but I couldn't figure out why it wasn't showing up on the page. Thanks for updating it. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 03:48, February 8, 2013 (UTC)


Sorry to bombard you with yet another question, but I noted under the list of Admin rights, the (chatadmin) ability. I have not found any references or information pertaining to said ability. Is it some way admins can private communicate with one another? PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 03:57, February 8, 2013 (UTC)

Special:Contact/general is your friend. Maybe you could add what they tell you to Help:Chatadmin. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 7 Feb 2013 8:11 PM Pacific
You have no idea how much that was driving me crazy Grin. I've two exams to write tomorrow so I would love to make that page, but i'm going to have to do it tomorrow evening. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 04:14, February 8, 2013 (UTC)
LOL... exams first! Now I know your weakness. I will just put huge lists of red links on your talk page. Winky. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 7 Feb 2013 8:18 PM Pacific
NOOOOOO! Must fight urges to edit.... I checked out the contact page and it appears to be a way to contact Wikia, not users or admins directly. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 04:21, February 8, 2013 (UTC)
Exactly, Wikia made chatadmin as a group right related to their Chat module, I'm guessing, so only they can tell you what it does. It wasn't a link meant to explain what chatadmin does, sorry. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 7 Feb 2013 8:27 PM Pacific
Oh ok. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 04:31, February 8, 2013 (UTC)

Community messages

Ok will do. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 17:13, February 9, 2013 (UTC)

Speedy delete

Hi, sorry to bother you, but could have have a look here, it seems it haven't been cleaned out for years. Thanks in advance. TherasTaneel (talk) 04:21, February 10, 2013 (UTC)

Already taken care of! PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 04:26, February 10, 2013 (UTC)


Excellent! I'll get right on it. Looks good. If I may make another request, would it be feasible to move the effect section up so it is underneath the attributes? Thanks! PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 22:40, February 11, 2013 (UTC) PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 22:31, February 11, 2013 (UTC)

Burning Legion‎‎

I'm afraid i'm a little rusty on my lore; is Illidan the leader of the Burning Legion‎‎? PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 03:59, February 13, 2013 (UTC)

Heh, no. Sargeras is the leader of the Burning Legion over all. He has demon lords that are local leaders. Illidan is the leader of the blood elves in Outland, I believe. Illidan made a deal with the Burning Legion to supply demonic magic to his followers and for power against his enemies. But my lore knowledge is not super, either. Checkout and see what they say. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 13 Feb 2013 11:13 PM Pacific
That's what I thought. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 07:29, February 14, 2013 (UTC)


I figured out the format of the new template. It's excellent and it matches the ones used by blizzard now, thanks for humoring my anal idiosyncrasies. Tongueout PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 04:19, February 16, 2013 (UTC)

I planned to update the template eventually without prompting. Test it on a wide variety of items and if you think its ok I will make it the main template. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 16 Feb 2013 10:37 AM Pacific
Will do! All of the loot items from Gate of the Setting Sun and Temple of the Jade Serpent now use the mists template. There doesn't seem to be any problems as of yet. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 19:00, February 16, 2013 (UTC)


I'm having quite a few issues with WoWWiki, I keep receiving error messages informing me that the server is not sending any data. Thought i'd let you know. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 23:19, February 16, 2013 (UTC)

In general you should use Special:Contact/bug. Unfortunately, I have no insights into the backend server issues. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 18 Feb 2013 10:18 AM Pacific
Ok. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 18:22, February 18, 2013 (UTC)

Female armor

Not sure what to do/make of this (newest addition). What do you think? PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 03:33, February 20, 2013 (UTC)

In perfect tradition of silly articles. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 20 Feb 2013 2:51 PM Pacific
Ok. Tongueout PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 00:40, February 21, 2013 (UTC)


Feels like it's a race to see who can remove the most {{NYR}} tags Tongueout. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 04:11, February 23, 2013 (UTC)

I've tried to do all the locations... what are you focusing on? I finally got my [Reins of the Golden Cloud Serpent] today, but it was mostly from turning in [Onyx Eggs]! --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 23 Feb 2013 12:14 AM Pacific
I've just been going down the list alphabetically. And nice! I haven't even hit 90 yet lol. I have a large sociology assignment due in a few weeks I haven't started yet, and two mid terms to write the first week of march. And I've been working every weekend. Frowney PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 22:59, February 23, 2013 (UTC)
I win! PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 20:39, February 25, 2013 (UTC)


Hey, I was going through the admin tools, and I looked into the MediaWiki:Wiki-navigation section, and noticed that there are a few too many links on two of the menus. So I took the liberty of removing the IRC channel link, as nobody uses it anymore, as well as the WoW interface info link, I'll add that to the main page. If this is a problem, just let me know and i'll try to revert it. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 21:19, February 25, 2013 (UTC)

Actually, it seems that Wikia is determined not to let me publish the changes. Apparently, our current layout is already too large; According to Wikia we are only allowed up to 4 level 1 links, yet we have 5. I can only assume that this is a result of a policy that came into place after we had already created the navigation menus. I await your response Tongueout. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 21:27, February 25, 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, we and many other wikis are technically violating Wikia's menu policy. The menus seem fine as they are now. I will look into it more, but I think it's ok. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 26 Feb 2013 11:08 AM Pacific
Ok. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 19:46, February 26, 2013 (UTC)

Name change

Hey Fandyllic, it's RyanPT, just wanted to let you know I have changed my username. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 06:20, February 26, 2013 (UTC)

Is it a biology thing? I like it. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 26 Feb 2013 11:12 AM Pacific
I'm still getting use to it too Grin. Yes actually, macrophages are part of the immune system, their function is to identify and destroy waste and foreign matter through engulfing them. I have always been fascinated by them and figured the name was both fitting and amusing. I was hoping somebody would recognize it. As for my signature, I may have studied yours and used it as a template for mine, I hope you don't mind. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 19:42, February 26, 2013 (UTC)
Nice catch on the sig location! PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 22:00, February 27, 2013 (UTC)


So are we going to display all of the mount colours available for a given mount? I only ask because previously, the multiple mount colours have been grouped under a single name. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 22:12, February 26, 2013 (UTC)

I like having all the individual mounts listed because then you can see the tooltip for them. With the group link you have to go to another page. What do you think is a good reason to keep group links? --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 26 Feb 2013 3:08 PM Pacific
I agree that it looks nicer with the individual mounts listed, yet if you look at the faction reward section you will see that the Netherwing mounts are grouped, as well as every single racial mount is grouped as well. If we were to start listing every mount, the racial mount section would be incredibly long, yet if we left it as it is then there is a lack of consistency. I figured that the grouping saved space and was more efficient. In my opinion, the page is already a bit on the large side. Perhaps we could remove some of the content that is no longer relevant, or we could split the page into two smaller and more specific pages? PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 00:03, February 27, 2013 (UTC)
The really long issue is something to think about... I will do some experimenting with collapsible tables and see if there is a good compromise way of displaying stuff. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 27 Feb 2013 1:46 PM Pacific
Ok. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 21:59, February 27, 2013 (UTC)
Very clever idea! PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 00:11, February 28, 2013 (UTC)

(2Copper) I like the idea of the "best of both worlds". The changes to the table with the mounts grouped, and then a collapsible component looks great. The same technique can be applied to the remainder of the article with the tables. As for being too long, if it comes to that, some of the older content can be shifted to another page, or we can use the tabber extension I've been using on the class ability pages. Raylan13@Wikia (talk) 01:22, February 28, 2013 (UTC)

XD The two copper thing took me a minute. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 01:24, February 28, 2013 (UTC)
I don't quite comprehend the 1, 2, and 3 parameters. What is their purpose? PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 01:13, March 1, 2013 (UTC)
Yeah I noticed the mistake just before my lecture, and I didn't have time to correct it. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 20:21, March 1, 2013 (UTC)
Done. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 07:20, March 2, 2013 (UTC)


Just got a tip that Twitter is retiring API 1.0. It looks like this will affect our twitter feed on the front page. Here's a link to what they're switching to, though the retirement isn't for at least a month:

Raylan13@Wikia (talk) 01:19, February 27, 2013 (UTC)

Ok, I will keep an eye out on it. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 27 Feb 2013 10:44 AM Pacific


Thank you for that. It was driving me nuts on how to go about displaying the upgrades. If you want, i'll add them to the remaining pages. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 23:34, February 28, 2013 (UTC)

It was mostly an experiment, but I'm glad you like it. {{Tooltip/Mists}} now also supports upgradelevel= to add the appropriate category for upgradeable items. It makes me think we should make the tooltip automatically add categories, but I'm holding off until I figure out this mode= thing. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 28 Feb 2013 3:59 PM Pacific
Yeah I saw. I admit, sometimes I find it a bit of a pain in the ass to add in the categories, especially since I no longer seem to be able to just copy and paste them in. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 00:09, March 1, 2013 (UTC)
I am confused however on why you made seven empty pages that redirect to the same page. Is it a template thing? PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 00:15, March 1, 2013 (UTC)
I went a little crazy. I was just making redirects from possible alternate spellings for Item Level Upgrades. Some where inappropriate, so I'm fixing them. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 28 Feb 2013 4:19 PM Pacific
Grin Ah that would make sense. I suppose the 'Crazy Person' title is appropriate eh? Also, I was wondering what you would think of having the upgrade templates directly underneath one another, somewhat like this. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 00:21, March 1, 2013 (UTC)

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Is this content fine or is it considered DNP? Not quite sure. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 20:22, March 1, 2013 (UTC)

It's fine, but I might rename it. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 1 Mar 2013 1:28 PM Pacific


Apparently, whoever made the Talbuk page decided to make a separate page for horde and alliance For Every Talbuk. I have to go to work very shorty, but I shall fix this once I return. I was thinking of renaming one of each Talbuk pages, and having the other redirect to the new one. Do you foresee any problems with this method? If so, do you have any advice on a better one? Thanks. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 21:43, March 1, 2013 (UTC)

Well, technically the Alliance and Horde versions have different item IDs. You could make a disambig page for each type with the same name and make a tooltip that shows for both factions. I will do an example for [Reins of the Cobalt Riding Talbuk]. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 1 Mar 2013 1:48 PM Pacific
Ok, I will look at it once I finish work. Oh, and a slightly off-topic question regarding naming: Should the second word in the mount name be capitalized on the page? I noticed that warhorse wasn't capitalized for Skeletal warhorse mounts and same with raptor in Swift raptor mounts. For the Wind Rider one though, the Rider is capitalized. Sorry for being so anal, but I have a bit of a compulsion to make things consistent. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 21:50, March 1, 2013 (UTC)
I must be such a pain in the ass XD. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 21:53, March 1, 2013 (UTC)
Oh ok, I understand. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 21:55, March 1, 2013 (UTC)
If you want to be consistent, it should match what is in the name of the mount item. I noticed the issue too. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 1 Mar 2013 2:01 PM Pacific

Mists Template

I had an idea, so I tinkered with the mists tooltip in order for it to display the upgrade level in the template. What do you think?PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 01:37, March 4, 2013 (UTC)

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