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== Community messages ==
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History    Please feel free to ask me any questions on my Wikia Community Central User talk page or my Wikia Templates User talk page!

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Comments to Fandyllic

i saw you removed my website in october... , it has no tos violations it contains alot of news, shots, etc related to wow.... why you think it is a tos?

Internetking (talk) 04:43, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

To enter the site, you need to agree to terms that include the following:
No one from Blizzard, associated with Blizzard or any such affiliated company or anyone directed by Blizzard or its related companies is permitted to enter these web sites or view any content contained within these sites at any time what so ever due to controversial reasons.
Sounds pretty suspicious to me. We don't need the problems this site could cause at WoWWiki. We try to play nice with Blizzard. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 18 Jan 2012 12:04 AM Pacific


Also take a look at Pollster and signup. This is basically what you're already doing, so if you want me to make you the official WoWWiki pollster, I'll just give it to you and close the signups. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 1 Mar 2012 10:53 AM Pacific

Well, Im not sure how much I want to be in charge, I am more like independent assistant, but I still will change polls and change other thing here, when I have a time and when there will be a need for changes. So it's totally up to You, but thanks for offer anyway. Vilnisr T | C - 09:10, March 9, 2012 (UTC)

Medicinal guide to herbs

Re: MoP herbs on Medicinal guide to herbs, sounds good to me. I'll be adding them anyway once MoP goes live unless I bug somebody with a beta key beforehand for herbs and recipes. Jasmer (talk) 02:38, March 29, 2012 (UTC)

Spenpiano sends a message

Hi Fandyllic, my name is Spenpiano. I created a fanmade expansion and I was wondering if you would like to have a look. It's called the World of Warcraft: Deceiver.--Spenpiano (talk) 20:22, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

See User_talk:Spenpiano/World_of_Warcraft:_Deceiver#Comments. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 23 Jul 2012 1:20 PM Pacific

Thank you! Please feel free to help--Spenpiano (talk) 23:18, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

I have a friend who works on these ideas with me. He's come up with this idea of a parallel universe of Azeroth. We're still working on its core idea, still trying to see where it will fit in. Its completely separate from the Deceiver. I'll post it soon.--Spenpiano (talk) 16:29, July 24, 2012 (UTC)

Celess22 sends a message

See Forum:AddOns,_APIs,_Macros,_UI,_and_XML#Celess22_sends_a_message.

let me know if you are in chat later sometime. I have questions.

can email

Old entities

Hiya ^^ I only joined last night and I was wondering, how do we handle entities that are no longer present in the Online Game, World of Warcraft? —This unsigned comment is by Yalasen (talkcontribs) 16:03, August 1, 2012. Please sign your posts with ~~~~!

See reply at User_talk:Yalasen#Old_entities. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 1 Aug 2012 7:56 PM Pacific

Complete list of achievements

I couldn't find a complete comprehensive list of Achievements so I decided to create my own. I hope this O.K.? Or if you can point me to the right page so I can edit that one and add these to that list?

I plan on adding all in-game achievements I can find given time. Any suggestions would be welcome.

Eupraxia (talk) 19:33, August 3, 2012 (UTC)Eupraxia

Kind of crazy, but go for it. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 3 Aug 2012 12:41 PM Pacific
On some of the achievement pages I get: "This table requires JavaScript to be enabled and site tooltips to be turned on to be displayed. You can also view the data on another page."
My javascript is on, halp? —This unsigned comment is by Eupraxia (talkcontribs) 13:45, August 3, 2012. Please sign your posts with ~~~~!

Portal Pages

See Forum:AddOns,_APIs,_Macros,_UI,_and_XML#Portal_Pages.

chat? chat poke2? Celess (talk) 21:17, August 4, 2012 (UTC)

AddOn Dev Category

See Forum:AddOns,_APIs,_Macros,_UI,_and_XML#AddOn_Dev_Category.


Ping me when/if you get a minute. Raylan13@Wikia (talk) 05:00, August 8, 2012 (UTC)


Try it yet? Portal:Interface customization :) --Celess (talk) 17:30, August 10, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, it seems to work fine. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 10 Aug 2012 10:15 AM Pacific

Faster? :) --Celess (talk) 18:20, August 10, 2012 (UTC)

Seems to be, but won't be able to tell until it is enabled for all portals. Do I still need to put your CSS into MediaWiki:Wikia.css? --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 10 Aug 2012 10:26 AM Pacific

Ok, basically need User:Celess22/wikiatabsstyle.tag placed in the site css (without the <style> tags obviously), and this performance pass is done. That will allow not having to use the template version. I think the css is working well. There is one fixup in the User:Celess22/wikiatabsstyle.tag to stop the irregular focus box in IE, and the CSS itself for #mptabslite is more optimized than the #mptabs version. Let me know if this is aok and when its done then ill remove the template reference form wwplite. Thanks for help in making this better. --Celess (talk) 01:21, August 12, 2012 (UTC)

Okay User:Celess22/wikiatabsstyle.tag stuff should now be in MediaWiki:Wikia.css. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 11 Aug 2012 5:55 PM Pacific

Ooops, can you update the css once more? My bad. I removed the template reference. If you notice anything odd with anything after the last css update, blame Raylan13, probably him :) --Celess (talk) 02:07, August 12, 2012 (UTC)

Updated again. It did seem a little skimpy the first time I copied it. Winky --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 11 Aug 2012 6:20 PM Pacific



The above Wiki is made in reguards to a notorious troll that was on Argent Dawn EU. He would slander people in any way he could, and has tried to do so on the page, mentioning myself and two others.

Requesting it be taken off, or taken down. —This unsigned comment is by Vaxir (talkcontribs) 12:11, August 9, 2012. Please sign your posts with ~~~~!

In reguards to your reply about and not removing it, I at least request you remove my name, and possibly the other two names, that have been put on the page - it is blatant trolling and a dig at us, and it's not acceptable. —This unsigned comment is by Vaxir (talkcontribs) 21:39, August 15, 2012‎. Please sign your posts with ~~~~!

Found something that justifies deleting it. Not sure why this exists, but is good enough for me: --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 15 Aug 2012 9:10 PM Pacific

Which AddOn Studio?

See Jan 2011 thru Dec 2011 Archive. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 19 Aug 2012 8:50 AM Pacific

Archmage (Warcraft III) teleport info

I see that you've restored the text for the spell mass teleport as part of the Archmage (Warcraft III) article. Is there anyway this text can be trimmed down? The same text is present in the mass teleport article and it seems a bit informal, as if some one is tell us why they like this spell rather than a simple description of its uses.

Also it has been added that citation is needed on the fact that mass teleport cannot teleport to flying units as destination point. This can be confirmed quickly by any player using this unit at level 6 or above.

End Times (talk) 17:14, August 26, 2012 (UTC)

See how I changed Archmage_(Warcraft_III)#Mass_Teleport_.28Ultimate.29. We basically want to preserve most of the stuff from that we can as kind of a back up reference. The other problem is that if we rewrite one or two abilities, it would look odd if we don't rewrite all or most of them. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 27 Aug 2012 9:17 AM Pacific

RP outfit articles

Well, as long as you follow the elinks in that article, you will see it'd be unfair to congratulate me for that outfit. Half of the work is not mine, though I added some stuff such as the Gilneas Tabard and Cloak, suggested the use of monocle and Bear Hunter's Rifle, and adviced hunters to tame Mastiffs or Foxes. Anyway, I'm glad to see you liked it ^^ I don't usually have the pleasure to meet RPrs.

I think I will edit a High elven outfit, but that's the only thing I have in mind now. :) --IconSmall Worgen Male"Keep your chin up, ey" Kroenen thuzad (talk · contr) 29 Aug 2012

You put it on WoWWiki and gave credit to the original sources. That's still a good thing. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 30 Aug 2012 10:05 AM Pacific
Then, thank you ^^ --IconSmall Worgen Male"Keep your chin up, ey" Kroenen thuzad (talk · contr) 29 Aug 2012

Renew wowwiki page

Hi Fandyllic! First of all I would like to thank you for your comment. Although it might sound negative I would like to justify as to why your opinion might arrive:

  • First of all there is a major change in how talents and spells are fashioned in the current live build
  • the wowwiki page, honestly most of the spells and abilities are outdated
  • The current boilerplate doesn't fit some of the changes done in-game as to this reference site: i.e. talent can be availed at certain level with three different option. No new template is existing
  • Most of the content there are manually update and as of now I don't have the time to do so. If you have spare time kindly join me in updating this page since this would be my 1st move.
  • The idea of the content would be entail a renewed format for this page.
    • If there are existing TGC photos include it in the page
    • post any flavored text
    • add an internal link to that specific TGC card within wowwiki pages
    • content are divided in current phase which is what ever existing in game state this spell has and the details
      • include the description of what is currently working and from what patch did it started
      • include any spell modifying talents, specializations, glyphs, tier set bonus and their internal link
    • sub sequent state contains all the previous spell changes that where made on the spell itself, the previous talents affecting it (under the old talent system passive or active), any glyphs, or tier set bonus.
    • change the outdated link to external site i.e. wowhead,mmo-champion database, thotbot with the new current spell id
    • provide any guides from external sources.

THat would be all and I do hope you can help me with this endeavor Vertigo12 (talk) 02:02, September 15, 2012 (UTC)vertigo12

I'd be glad to help. I assume you're talking about [Renew] primarily. I will start helping by updating the {{Infobox ability}} template with things like specific level required. I think |talent_tree= can serve for specialization requirement. Blizzard seems to have made "spec" more analogous to specialization rather than talent tree now anyway, so I may just add support for |specialization=. I also take a look at {{Infobox talent}} which might even need more work.
My main disagreement with the "Present State" vs. "Subsequent State" section organization is that it is too vague. Present state for what? Current patch? Subsequent state for when? Expansion release? If this was more clear, then I wouldn't mind so much.
When writing wiki pages, you have to read it back to yourself as if you were someone who knows very little about the current state of the game. If there is future stuff, you need to be as clear as possible about milestones for that future (or past). Give patch versions or expansions like Patch 5.0.5 or 0500Mists-Logo-Small Mists of Pandaria.
Lastly, as a general practice WoWWiki doesn't try to include too much historical info about stuff in order not to confuse readers. If you want to preserve most of the old info on a spell for example, move it to spell (old) and link to it from the spell page. Don't try to preserve all the old info on the main spell page. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 15 Sep 2012 11:56 AM Pacific

Re: Ifmyou play TCG...

Oh, I forgot about them! I'll have a little look now and see what I can do! :D Rainbow Shifter (Owl Me) 15:55, September 18, 2012 (UTC)

Twitch TV Embed Interest?

Hey there Fandyllic,

My name is Jorge and I'm on Wikia's Community Development Program. I actually want to reach out to gauge your wiki's potential interest in embedding some Twitch TV content.

To give some background, Wikia is interested in working with Twitch to get some native embeds for interested wikis. Twitch provides live-streaming of games, from simple lets-plays to massive tournaments and competitive events. Embedding could allows users to easily find streaming content or get together to chat about particular events. If the wiki is interested, you could also have you very own wiki channel/group to stream content to users, make your own show, etc. If might fit well with Pandaria BETA, launch, and Battlgrounds events.

Do you think this is something the WoW wiki community might be interested in? If so, how do you think it would be used? (home-page embed, its standalone page with just links or an actual embed? something else? Producing your own show? Etc.) Either way, let me know your thoughts by leaving a message on my talk page. Also, if you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask.

Best, Jorge @Wikia(profile)•(talk) 18:58, September 24, 2012 (UTC)

I got your message and that's great to here! I'll make note of it, contact Raylan, and keep you informed about Twitch TV progress!
Best, Jorge @Wikia(profile)•(talk) 15:58, September 25, 2012 (UTC)

Tier 14

I got them from the WoW Site --RaceLord (talk)


Had to update the background to work with the break that's now between the content area and the wikia bar at the top. Let me know if it works for you. If not, I'll do some more fiddling during the week. Raylan13@Wikia (talk) 03:07, October 11, 2012 (UTC)

Yup. Not quite seamless, but a good quick fix. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 10 Oct 2012 7:17 PM Pacific


Hey, I don't really know where I should ask for this, but could you please delete or deactivate my account and talk-page and all the related pages? Thanks a bunch! 05:16, October 16, 2012 (UTC)

I can delete specific pages that no one else has contributed to, but otherwise the answer is no. Please tag the pages you want deleted with {{speedydelete|Author request.}}. Only Wikia can de-acivate an account and they rarely do it. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 16 Oct 2012 6:58 AM Pacific

video conferencing

Hi - i have left a message regarding your question on video conferencing Batami (talk) 03:01, October 25, 2012 (UTC)


Just wanted to point you to the ongoing discussion. Pinged you, but won't be back for a few hours. Raylan13@Wikia (talk) 23:27, October 25, 2012 (UTC)

I am back. Ping me when you get a moment. Raylan13@Wikia (talk) 01:27, October 26, 2012 (UTC)

Disbanded/inactive guild

Discussion of deletion or not of Guild:Cheshire Cats (Sisters of Elune US) has been moved to Deletion vote section of its talk page. Please continue the discussion there. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 7 Nov 2012 1:11 PM Pacific


Update: Guild:Turus Thalanaar (Wyrmrest Accord US) has been vandalized with additional actionable content;Gwydionbrenn (talk · contr) 10 Nov 2012 12:28 PM Eastern

Reviewed editing history of both the guild page and talk page. See my response here. Raylan13@Wikia (talk) 18:09, November 10, 2012 (UTC)

I have requested deletion of my own page; voting should no longer be an issue. Gwydionbrenn (talk · contr) 10 Nov 2012 2:32 PM Eastern
Guild page deleted as requested. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 12 Nov 2012 11:12 AM Pacific

Protection request


Vilnisr T | C - 10:54, November 15, 2012 (UTC)

Done. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 15 Nov 2012 1:12 PM Pacific


Thanks Vilnisr T | C - 20:46, November 15, 2012 (UTC)

Question about promoting other wikis

Fandyllic? I have a question. Does WoW wiki promote a WoW Fanon/Rp Wiki? Like a smaller wiki that is inside of the wiki?

Thanks - Count the stars - Shao 03:05, November 21, 2012 (UTC)

What specifically do you mean by promoting? We have a Fansites page for links to WoW-related wikis. Is that what you mean? --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 21 Nov 2012 4:37 PM Pacific
Like on avatar wiki the site likes all fanon to a wiki for the series' fanons. That way both wiki's are linked. Count the stars - Shao 19:49, November 22, 2012 (UTC)
I guess we don't have a specific page like that, but I'll think about creating one. Right now all we have is Fansites#Lore_and_role_playing, but I'll probably separate Roleplaying from Lore and make a new Fanon and roleplaying section. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 23 Nov 2012 10:34 AM Pacific
I made a new section in Fansites, called Fanon and roleplaying. I really don't want to create a whole separate page for fanons until there are at lease 6 or more to list. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 23 Nov 2012 11:02 AM Pacific
Ok Thanks. I'd take a look at that site because it's pretty well organized and there's a shit-ton of work setting up a portal like that. Count the stars - Shao 15:23, November 24, 2012 (UTC)


Yes, those two are both my profiles. I'm sorry, but I have major indecisiveness when it comes to usernames. How did you come up with such a unique username? If you have any ideas, I would really appreciate it.

I'm sorry for any trouble I have caused. Vadske (talk) 02:10, December 4, 2012 (UTC)

So, are you going to delete my two profiles? Vadske (talk) 02:57, December 4, 2012 (UTC)
It would probably be best to close both accounts; due to my indecisiveness, I may just make a new account (I promise, I won't make two), and nine times out of ten, the next user that is me will be a user with the same description on their userpage (you know: "I've never played a WoW game in my life, etc."). Vadske (talk) 03:15, December 4, 2012 (UTC)

Protection request


Vilnisr T | C - 09:21, December 5, 2012 (UTC)

Patrol logs in recent changes

Hi, I'm from a wiki discussing whether to instal Recent Changes Patrol and had a question I hoped you could answer. I've also left this message on User talk:Raylan13 in case you don't get this for a while.

From what I can see from Special:RecentChanges marking an edit as patrolled does not show up, but does in Special:Log. Is this the same if you are able to mark edits as patrolled, or does the patrol log show up if you have the right?

Thanks, Cåm 18:13, December 5, 2012 (UTC)

See response on Message Wall:Cåm. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 5 Dec 2012 12:22 PM Pacific

Reporting Vandals

I do not seem to be able to add any names to the WoWWiki:Violations page, so I would just like to let you know that Wallisthedoosh has been vandalizing the Server:Illidan US repeatedly by adding Elinks of Call to Arms youtube videos.


RyanPT (talk) 06:30, December 8, 2012 (UTC)

Vandal blocked. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 8 Dec 2012 8:57 AM Pacific


RyanPT (talk) 20:11, December 8, 2012 (UTC)

External liks

I have noticed a few external links on this realm page Alexstrasza US (PvE) for guilds and such, is that allowed? I seem to remember reading that only two external links were allowed per page.


RyanPT (talk) 20:55, December 8, 2012 (UTC)

There is no limit on the number of external links by policy, but only approved sites may have multiple external links to the same site. We're much looser on character, guild, and realm pages as long as the external links are relevant to the character, guild, or realm. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 8 Dec 2012 3:51 PM Pacific

Patch mirror additions


My name is Catalin Chivulescu and i want to submit a new World of Warcraft mirror site, the site is ready and launched but i don't have permission to edit the patch_mirror page. Could you tell me what steps should i follow in order to register my website as a mirror on Wowwiki?

Catalin Chivulescu
—This unsigned comment is by Catalin.chivulescu90 (talkcontribs) 15:33, December 10, 2012‎. Please sign your posts with ~~~~!

MM101 issues

hey, I am having a bit of a issue regarding User:MM101. This user posted an edit on the Item level page, which contains what appears to be comments on the outdatedness of the article. I asked them to instead post it on the talk page, as they clearly had good input for the page, but I felt it was not an appropriate edit. The user is not satisfied with my explanation and I would appreciate it if you could explain it to him.


RyanPT (talk) 07:24, December 11, 2012 (UTC)

Patch Mirrors

I figured I would bring this to your attention, someone just edited the Patch mirrors page and changed the files for one of the patches. I honestly have no idea what the proper patch mirrors should be so I left it as it is in case the user was making valid contributions.

RyanPT (talk) 18:54, December 12, 2012 (UTC)

  • Alright, thanks.
    RyanPT (talk) 19:15, December 12, 2012 (UTC)


Hey, what is the protocol for adding YouTube videos? Nialinius has been making pages about a few scenarios and adding videos of him doing them. He also added a YouTube video of him completing an achievement on an achievement page.

RyanPT (talk) 23:25, December 12, 2012 (UTC)

That's fine if it is on topic. If the video is advertising something like a pay guide, then it is not okay. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 12 Dec 2012 8:28 PM Pacific

Patch mirrors


I talked to you on 10th of December about adding a new website in the patch_mirror. The website is ready but i still don't have permission to edit the page.

Could you check my account if it has the permission to edit that page in order to publish the links?

Thankyou—This unsigned comment is by Catalin.chivulescu90 (talkcontribs) 15:33, December 11, 2012‎. Please sign your posts with ~~~~!

Mount Icons

Hey, before I forget, I just wanted to mention that we currently do not have the mount icon for the Pandaren racial mounts, the Dragon Turtles. I haven't the slightest clue on how to add them in the proper format, or where to get them from. Thanks, RyanPT (talk) 06:23, December 14, 2012 (UTC)

WoW wiki patch


I talked to you about permission to edit wow wiki latest patch page.

You suggested me to create a new page and you will edit it. It's no problem i can wait, but my account was made on 10th of december and it's 14 of december.

Could you do the checks? To see what's wrong with my account?

Thankyou —This unsigned comment is by Catalin.chivulescu90 (talkcontribs) 06:17, December 14, 2012‎. Please sign your posts with ~~~~!

I researched it and the "new user" time period is 4 days and not 3. See Project:Autoconfirmed users. So tomorrow you should be able to edit. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 14 Dec 2012 9:00 AM Pacific


Hey, is there anywhere in particular you would like me to edit/update? I believe I have finished all that I can on the mounts page for now. Thanks. RyanPT (talk) 04:47, December 17, 2012 (UTC)


Can you please ban Miniver soon? He has been undoing my edits and replacing them with very suspicious Elinks. It's getting frustrating. Thanks RyanPT (talk) 19:48, December 18, 2012 (UTC)

Done. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 18 Dec 2012 12:36 PM Pacific

Thanks!RyanPT (talk) 21:35, December 18, 2012 (UTC)

Report Vandalism

User Minisopolis [1] destroyed all the content of The Lich King and Draenei. I found I cannot edit the page WW:V so I reported here, thx. --Aflyhorse (talk) 14:17, December 21, 2012 (UTC)

Vandal blocked. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 24 Dec 2012 7:31 PM Pacific

List of Mining Nodes

Hey, I have been trying to edit the List of mining nodes page, and I keep getting an error telling me that your filters have blocked a Elink. The trouble is that the Elink was already on there, and it is legitimate. Raylan checked it out and moved some stuff around but it still won't let me edit it. What do you think? PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 22:56, December 24, 2012 (UTC)

See response at User_talk:RyanPT#Mining. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 24 Dec 2012 7:03 PM Pacific


Hey, I was going through some of the old forums and I have a question. I saw that nearly all of the admins left before, and I was wondering what made you stay. I know it's a sensitive subject so I will not take offense if you don't wish to talk about it. Thanks. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 23:54, January 3, 2013 (UTC)

It's not that sensitive and I've been asked this question a few times before. The summary answer is that I wasn't that friendly with alot of the main admins that led the charge to go to what became Wowpedia and I thought WoWWiki still had some life in it. I also work on a bunch of other Wikia wikis, so it would be kind of strange to ignore WoWWiki. Also, I have met Raylan13 and he's a really good person. He really does alot more work than I do and he would kind of be alone at WoWWiki, if I left. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 3 Jan 2013 4:54 PM Pacific
Oh ok. That makes sense. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 01:39, January 4, 2013 (UTC)


hey Fandyllic I have a question. For articles marked Speedy Delete with a valid reason, should I delete them? I am asking as I saw that you added the Sd tag to a guild page today, but didn't delete it. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 03:06, January 7, 2013 (UTC)

If you want to delete {{sd}} tagged items, go ahead. Please make sure the speedy delete reason given is still valid before you delete, though. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 7 Jan 2013 12:06 PM Pacific
Will do! PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 20:08, January 7, 2013 (UTC)
I feel a bit slow, but what does 'dup' mean? PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 20:26, January 7, 2013 (UTC)
Short for "duplicate". --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 7 Jan 2013 12:27 PM Pacific
Ah! Tongueout PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 20:28, January 7, 2013 (UTC)


Hey Fandyllic, I already thanked Raylan, but I also wanted to thank you for promoting me to moderator. Is there anything that you noticed that I could improve on? PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 23:59, January 7, 2013 (UTC)

The thanks should all go to Raylan. He recommended and I just agreed. See User_talk:RyanPT#Areas_to_focus_on. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 7 Jan 2013 5:01 PM Pacific
I meant have you noticed anything about my edits I need to improve on, but as soon as I finish updating the professions I will get right on the raids and instances. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 01:31, January 8, 2013 (UTC)

Image screenshot

My apologies, I will be sure to tag the article correctly in the future. Thanks for the clarification. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 21:58, January 10, 2013 (UTC)

Those generically named screenshots bug me too, but I know most people never read the policy pages. Also, until Wikia says, "WoWWiki is taking up too much hard drive space!" I'm not too worried about user images as long as they are relevant to Warcraft. I go through about once a month and try to delete the really worthless user images, but sometimes I let unused ones stay for a long time after they probably should have been deleted. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 10 Jan 2013 2:03 PM Pacific


I was looking into some stuff and I kept seeing IRC pop up. Is it still being used? PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 23:11, January 11, 2013 (UTC)

Yes, but I almost never go there. I don't think Wikia has an official IRC site anymore (hence w:Help:IRC), but Wikia users still hang out at freenode. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 11 Jan 2013 3:18 PM Pacific
See w:Community Central:IRC channels. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 11 Jan 2013 3:19 PM Pacific
Ok PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 23:20, January 11, 2013 (UTC)


Can you please give me some username ideas? I believe myself to be... an above average editor, but I can't come up with a username that will stick/a username that really like. It seems that everyone else has all of the cool and unique usernames, to me at least. I'd really appreciate it if you could give me some ideas. {{SUBST:User:Vadske/Signature}} 01:53, January 21, 2013 (UTC)


Is it only on user pages that people are free to advertise unrelated things? Or are there other permissible locations? PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 04:00, January 21, 2013 (UTC)

Mentioning is not necessarily advertising. User talk pages sometimes can range off-topic. User subpages can be used for opp-topic things if they are like lists or sandboxes. A WoWWiki:Sandbox pages can be used, because they are used with the knowledge that anything in them can be wiped out. Other than that I can't think of anything.
The key issue is external linking and obvious, outright advertising (a full sentence or more). A few words here and there does little harm. is basically a 90% copy of WoWWiki and they still only have half or less the traffic rating than us. They are gaining, however. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 21 Jan 2013 9:05 AM Pacific
Ok I understand, thanks. Oh and really? I was under the assumption that they had the higher traffic rating, on account of both WowInsider and now link to Wowpedia. That's interesting. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 18:59, January 21, 2013 (UTC)
I don't think the and WoW Insider links are the main reason Wowpedia is gaining on WoWWiki, because they had that early on. Wowpedia definitely has better boss and instance pages than WoWWiki at this point and I think that is driving most of their growth. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 22 Jan 2013 11:50 AM Pacific
Well after I finish with the raid achievement pages i'm working on then I will see if there is anything I can contribute to those pages. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 22:12, January 22, 2013 (UTC)

Item boilerplate

Hey Fandyllic, I was wondering if there was any way to change the template of the item boilerplate. Blizzard changed the style of their tooltips as I am sure you know, and I was wondering if it would be simple for us to do the same. Thanks. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 19:53, January 29, 2013 (UTC)

It would not be simple (may involve JavaScript changes), but I might be able to do it. If you could take some screenshots of the various new tooltip examples to work off of, I could start working on it. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 30 Jan 2013 12:00 PM Pacific
Will do! PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 20:11, January 30, 2013 (UTC)
Here they are, sorry it took so long but I've been exhausted.

Hope they help. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 02:05, February 1, 2013 (UTC)

Is the text in orange from an addon (bags, equipped, and total lines)? I don't remember seeing that. Raylan13@Wikia (talk) 02:25, February 1, 2013 (UTC)
Yes that is from an addon called Bagnon I believe. I meant to cut it out... Oops. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 02:31, February 1, 2013 (UTC)
Those screenshots should be enough to start on. If you can get some of non-armor, non-weapon items (bags, glyphs, recipes, etc.) that look different, that would be helpful as well. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 1 Feb 2013 12:27 PM Pacific
Sure, should be up within the hour. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 20:40, February 1, 2013 (UTC)

Here are the new images:

I don't know if all of them are different from the old style, but I believe most of them are. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 22:08, February 1, 2013 (UTC)

Started working on new toolitp template at Template:Tooltip/Mists. Related CSS updates are at User:Fandyllic/wikia.css. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 5 Feb 2013 3:18 PM Pacific
Great. Once my exams are over i'm going to have to sit down for a few hours and figure out the basics of template coding. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 23:27, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

Mega Bloks

ya, i'm going to add the other pages and pictures in sometime soon, should the other figures in the 5 Part Mega Bloks WoW Stopmotion have pages? They are mostly Ragerock without the torso clothes and different armor, black hair blood elf DK, and some others. --RaceLord (talk)

Unless a figure is uniquely identified, I wouldn't make a separate page for it. If you see a unique figure that appears to be based of an existing one, but the figure doesn't have a name, just put that info in a "Notes" section of the figure it resembles. You could make a single page for Unidentified Mega Bloks figures, I suppose and throw all the info there. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 30 Jan 2013 5:28 PM Pacific
ya thats a good idea, could you help me with Template:Megaset, I can only get Released Date to work --RaceLord (talk)
you mean like draw a picture of a idea i think it should look like? --RaceLord (talk)
oh, i can at least make a doodle of a design for the info box, i can have it done in 5-10 minutes --RaceLord (talk)
sorry took me longer to make it because i'm watching stuff on my TV,
Idea for Box
this is my Basic Idea, of course it would be the same design as the one thats already there, but with the design i made. --RaceLord (talk)
There was no hurry, because I was busy (or sleeping), but I can work with that. I'll probably make it match our existing infoboxes in style, but it seems very similar to what I posted on your talk page. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 31 Jan 2013 11:02 AM Pacific
You're doing a great job on the pages, so I'm glad you like the infobox. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 31 Jan 2013 2:09 PM Pacific

Nice work on the Box, i went to the 2 pages already made, 91001 Colton and 91003 Ragerock, and edited them, it looks good dude. --RaceLord (talk)


Thank you for your support! PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 01:36, February 1, 2013 (UTC)

Looking forward to piling admin maintenance tasks on you! Winky --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 31 Jan 2013 5:40 PM Pacific
Bring them on. Grin PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 01:42, February 1, 2013 (UTC)

Mega Bloks 2

How you think the Mega Bloks World of Warcraft page is coming out so far? --RaceLord (talk)

Looks good, but I will make the tables fit in width by shrinking the images a little. Also if the page gets too big we might want to split out some stuff like the items. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 3 Feb 2013 8:19 AM Pacific

Moving pages

Hey Fandyllic. How do you move pages without leaving a redirect? I saw Raylan do it so I know it can be done. Thanks PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 01:51, February 4, 2013 (UTC)

On the same note, do we want mods to have the suppressredirect right? I noticed they didn't, but they can move pages. Raylan13@Wikia (talk) 16:47, February 4, 2013 (UTC)
Not sure how important suppressredirect is. Why do you think mods need this right? --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 4 Feb 2013 12:16 PM Pacific

I don't necessarily, just saw they had the power to move pages, but would always include a redirect. Didn't remember if that was intentional or not. Raylan13@Wikia (talk) 20:42, February 4, 2013 (UTC)


Hey, just heard we might not be seeing as much of Raylan. That's going to suck. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 06:16, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

I don't think it's going to be that bad, but he will be missed when he's not contributing as much. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 5 Feb 2013 9:46 AM Pacific
Yeah. Have you heard anything from Wikia about anyone else helping out? PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 18:34, February 5, 2013 (UTC)
Not likely. I'm not sure, but Raylan's situation was already sort of extraordinary. Unfortunately, the forking of a wiki from Wikia because they were not responsive to the community is not extraordinary, just uncommon (see Anti-Wikia Alliance's list of moved wikis. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 5 Feb 2013 3:48 PM Pacific
I'm a bit confused, did WoWWiki fork from Wikia? Who isn't responsive to the community? (I looked at the moved wiki list) PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 00:05, February 6, 2013 (UTC)

Old adminship nominations

Hey Fandyllic, I noticed Racelord was wondering if the old nominations for adminship should be archived. They are from 2011. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 21:34, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

Probably, but it doesn't hurt to leave them. You could ask specific nominees if it's okay to archive their nominations. If they say yes or don't reply in say a week, you can archive them. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 5 Feb 2013 3:43 PM Pacific
OK. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 00:08, February 6, 2013 (UTC)

Admin announcement

I have to admit, i'm very excited Grin. When you say promote feedback, what do you mean exactly? I am quite friendly and personable so I am planning on doing my best to welcome and promote users to edit and ask questions. I may be able to get a few of my personal friends to start contributing also. I would very much appreciate it if you made a page detailing the tasks and abilities of an admin. Also, I feel I should mention that I have two midterm exams on Friday, so I will probably only be able to really contribute in the evenings till I write them. Thanks for giving me this opportunity. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 03:32, February 6, 2013 (UTC)

Damn that is a lot of abilities on the admin dashboard. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 20:59, February 6, 2013 (UTC)
Don't go crazy. Winky ...and don't feel pressure to to do alot right away. Quality edits trump quantity most of the time. If you focus on doing stuff that helps as many other users as possible, that is a good guideline.
Feel free to ask questions about special pages. One that is not well known, but helpful is Special:LinkSearch. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 6 Feb 2013 1:15 PM Pacific
How do you check a user's IP? I also blocked a user that was only posting spam and an Elink on their user page, yet when I look at the block log, it shows something about an Autoblock that I don't see anywhere else. What is this? PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 21:19, February 6, 2013 (UTC)
I only ask about the IP because I am curious how you can tell when a user is a "sock". PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 22:42, February 6, 2013 (UTC)
You need the user right checkuser (or maybe checkuser-global at Wikia). Raylan probably has that as staff, but I don't so I have no idea how it works. Sorry. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 6 Feb 2013 2:58 PM Pacific
Oh ok. Thought I was going blind. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 23:05, February 6, 2013 (UTC)

Name change

Hey Fandyllic I have a question; how does user name changing work exactly? Would the new user name have the same edit count and information as the old one? I only ask because I am a little annoyed at using my real name with my user name. I'd prefer it if I could use something that would be a little more anonymous. I know that you have this power, being a bureaucrat, but I do not know how difficult this would be to accomplish. If it is a hassle than don't worry about it. Thanks PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 04:29, February 6, 2013 (UTC)

I've heard the rename tool might be broken recently, but I believe it usually works pretty seamlessly. Do you want to hold off on the admin promotion until you have a name change? You may want to use Special:Contact/rename-account to do it and maybe they'll tell you it is currently broken. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 6 Feb 2013 8:51 AM Pacific
Nah, I thought about it and it's fine. I changed my signature so that's good enough for me. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 17:48, February 6, 2013 (UTC)


Would you mind terribly if I removed the Cataclysm content on the Portal:Main page and added Cataclysm to the list of previous expansions? I am running out of space on the main page for the new Mists of Pandaria content. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 04:17, February 7, 2013 (UTC)

Sure, go ahead and remove it. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 6 Feb 2013 8:35 PM Pacific
Will do. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 04:37, February 7, 2013 (UTC)


Hey can you take a look at the Block list for me? There are two records of something called "autoblock" that supposedly I initiated. What does this mean? PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 19:27, February 7, 2013 (UTC)

I don't see this in the block logs. Can you give me the name of a user you blocked that has this info in the log? --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 7 Feb 2013 1:28 PM Pacific
Stacyking1, here is a photo of it:
PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 22:01, February 7, 2013 (UTC)
Ahh okay. The block list is different from the block log. What you are seeing is probably an attempt by someone with the same IP as the blocked user trying to edit or create an account. You could ask at Special:Contact/general to get the definitive answer or maybe someone at VSTF wiki knows. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 7 Feb 2013 2:17 PM Pacific
Oh Ok. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 22:30, February 7, 2013 (UTC)


I'm not sure what to make of the changes a user made to Template:Guildbox. Would you mind taking a look? Thanks. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 22:48, February 7, 2013 (UTC)

They just added a "founded=" field. A nice touch actually. I updated the docs. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 7 Feb 2013 7:27 PM Pacific
Yeah I saw that, but I couldn't figure out why it wasn't showing up on the page. Thanks for updating it. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 03:48, February 8, 2013 (UTC)


Sorry to bombard you with yet another question, but I noted under the list of Admin rights, the (chatadmin) ability. I have not found any references or information pertaining to said ability. Is it some way admins can private communicate with one another? PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 03:57, February 8, 2013 (UTC)

Special:Contact/general is your friend. Maybe you could add what they tell you to Help:Chatadmin. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 7 Feb 2013 8:11 PM Pacific
You have no idea how much that was driving me crazy Grin. I've two exams to write tomorrow so I would love to make that page, but i'm going to have to do it tomorrow evening. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 04:14, February 8, 2013 (UTC)
LOL... exams first! Now I know your weakness. I will just put huge lists of red links on your talk page. Winky. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 7 Feb 2013 8:18 PM Pacific
NOOOOOO! Must fight urges to edit.... I checked out the contact page and it appears to be a way to contact Wikia, not users or admins directly. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 04:21, February 8, 2013 (UTC)
Exactly, Wikia made chatadmin as a group right related to their Chat module, I'm guessing, so only they can tell you what it does. It wasn't a link meant to explain what chatadmin does, sorry. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 7 Feb 2013 8:27 PM Pacific
Oh ok. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 04:31, February 8, 2013 (UTC)

Community messages

Ok will do. PacmanNomNomNom Macrophager (talk) 17:13, February 9, 2013 (UTC)

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