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Comments to Fandyllic Edit

Portable Infoboxes Edit

I'm sure you saw this coming Tongueout. I've indicated that, if infoboxes are converted here, it's likely going to be a long process so that we can get the tweaking down exactly as we need it via css. But here's the obligatory outreach:

We're reaching out to a few of our top communities, hoping to get you on board with the migration to the new infobox markup. And we have tools to help!

Why we’re doing this

Simply put: Most current infobox structure translates very poorly to mobile experiences, and indeed any device that doesn't use desktop-style displays. On desktops and laptops, they often look amazing. The problem is that Wikia's traffic is trending mobile.

There is an important graph from our forum post about infoboxes a couple weeks back.

Mobile is the future. Not just for Wikia, but for the web as a whole. Take a look at the recent trends and future growth predictions for mobile traffic - it's staggering.

We partnered with the Wikia community to create this new markup to make sure that your hard work can be displayed on mobile devices (as well as any future technologies) easily and without any new coding conventions. It'll take some effort up front, to be sure, but we're here to help, and the work you put in now will pay for itself tenfold in the future.

Tools we’ve designed to ease the process

We've enabled two new features on your community. One is a tool for migrating the "old" infobox code to the new markup. It identifies templates on your wikia that look like infobox templates and places a box on the right rail of the template page. When you click the "Generate draft markup" button in this box, it opens a new tab containing a draft of your infobox using the new markup.

The second is a new feature on Special:Insights that will highlight which infoboxes on your wikia have not been migrated to the new infobox markup. It's fairly intuitive - you can click on the infobox title link itself to see the old markup, or simply click the "Convert!" button on the right, which performs the same action as the "Generate draft markup" button. Keep in mind the tool is not perfect, however, and false positives may be returned.

This is our help page for the new markup. If you'd like, I can help get things rolling by converting a template or two to draft form as an example, as well as watching this forum post for any questions that can be forwarded to the powers that be.

—This unsigned comment is by Raylan13 (talkcontribs) 11:21, July 24, 2015. Please sign your posts with ~~~~!

Yeah, it's obvious to me why this is happening, but I just wish they would do something less awkward to help author for mobile, like a special tag to control whether something renders on mobile or not. This infobox thing doesn't help for the many other things that don't render well on mobile, especially tables. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 24 Jul 2015 10:35 AM Pacific

WoW: Legion Edit

Hello Fandyllic! I'm a very new member around here and I made quite a fair bit of contribution to the setting up of the WoW: Legion page. As the influx of information was mostly driven by enthusiasm I may have made some errors. I hope you understand and I'm sorry if I have caused any trouble. I hope to further contribute to the information-gathering for the newest expansion.

If there is any way I can help to make the presentation for the Legion page even better, please tell.

Thank you!

Senpailexi (talk) 17:51, August 6, 2015 (UTC)

Elements disabled Edit

FYI: Should be a message coming out soon about why things like JS and verbatim are being emergency disabled if you haven't seen any news about it elsewhere. Raylan13@Wikia (talk) 17:52, August 10, 2015 (UTC)

Okay, I was just going to ask about that. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 10 Aug 2015 10:02 AM Pacific

Disable anons Edit

I know we discussed whether to enable anon editing when we made the switch. From what I've seen I don't think it's necessarily helped or hurt us either way, though it really depends on the week Tongueout. So I could go either way tbh; asking the others wouldn't hurt, of course. Raylan13@Wikia (talk) 18:17, August 10, 2015 (UTC)

I would actually prefer better and more tools for dealing with anons, but those don't seem to be forthcoming. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 10 Aug 2015 11:00 AM Pacific

Wikia Community Connect Edit

Hey Fandyllic. I'm writing you today to let you know about Wikia Community Connect, our first-ever Admin Summit, which we're going to be holding from September 9th to September 11th at our office. We are inviting one administrator from 30 major communities for this, and I wanted to invite you as the admin representative for WoWWiki.

Community Connect will give each admin representative a chance to meet and interact with Wikia Staff and fellow admins from across Wikia, hear about our product vision and plans, and learn more about Wikia's marketing and branding. This will also enable admins to provide feedback directly to Wikia about our plans for the future.

If you attend, we'll pay for all of your event-related expenses, so you don't have to worry about the cost. Please let me know by the end of the day tomorrow, Tuesday, August 11th if you can attend. Sorry for the quick turnaround, but the event is coming up quick.

Thanks! - Brandon Rhea@Wikia(talk) 22:41, August 10, 2015 (UTC)

I should be able to go. It sounds fun. Replied on your Community message wall. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 10 Aug 2015 3:42 PM Pacific
Hey. Following up here since I didn't hear from you on my wall. Two questions for you. First, can you tell me your t-shirt size? (Please do so ASAP, even if you're still working out whether you can attend, since we need to turn in sizes tomorrow.) Second, is your email address in your account your preferred email address? Thanks! - Brandon Rhea@Wikia(talk) 21:28, August 18, 2015 (UTC)

Infoboxes Edit

Portable infoboxes at Raylan13's talk page...

I'm going to start on the portable conversions today, going from least to most used. I don't anticipate getting a huge amount done; for all of them I'll refrain from hitting publish until you can take a look at them, if you'd like. I think what I'll do for the css is create some MediaWiki pages and do some verbatim - at least until we can tell if they'll all share those css changes Tongueout. Raylan13@Wikia (talk) 21:23, August 25, 2015 (UTC)

The draft is automatically generated as a subpage, i.e. Template:Whatever/Draft, so should work Winky. I decided to place the ones I've finished in a sandbox list for easier access. They can be struck out when/if approved and published. Raylan13@Wikia (talk) 21:59, August 25, 2015 (UTC)
No, that's just what I'm doing Tongueout Everything can actually be done via CSS - I'm just being lazy and using verbatim; it'll all get ported into the regular css once everything is complete. Raylan13@Wikia (talk) 15:44, August 27, 2015 (UTC)
For simple if functions, think of it like this -
<data source="whatever"><format>what the value is if the parameter is filled</format><default>what the displayed value is if the parameter is empty, if desired</default></data>

The new infoboxes are designed to hide any parameter that doesn't have data, so it simplifies things in some cases.

More complex if and/or switch functions have to be done with <navigation></navigation>. You can check out my Hearthstone card template for one of the most complex ones I've had to deal with. It isn't published because there's currently a glitch with some gif sizing. Check out the history to compare versions and hopefully it will help.

I'm at PAX now, so I'll be back Tuesday evening/Wednesday during the day for more questions Winky Raylan13@Wikia (talk) 19:05, August 30, 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, the styling is definitely the easiest part, imho. Check out my handy dandy css styling list here - just disregard the other sections on that page, as it's always a work in progress and may be out of date. Raylan13@Wikia (talk) 02:25, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

Vandal on Detheroc Edit

Hello. Sorry to bother you, but we have a particular IP vandalizing the Detheroc page. I would like to request it is under protection and the vandal punished. ( 20:58, September 2, 2015 (UTC))

Anon blocked, but will wait on protection. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 2 Sep 2015 1:02 PM Pacific

Global Goals Edit

Go right ahead ;) If there's anything you need for it, I'll be on tomorrow working on WoW. Raylan13@Wikia (talk) 04:51, September 26, 2015 (UTC)

couple of things for "Portal:Main" Edit


1) Portal_talk#obsolete_ad?_(Selfie_Scavenger_Hunt)

2) Portal_talk#link_glitch_in_"Portal_talk:Main"

I noticed a couple of additional things for Portal:Main (and its "Talk" page). Giving you a heads-up, per your request. ;-) Thanks. -- Fwcain (talk) 05:56, September 26, 2015 (UTC)

Main page Edit

What do you think of this main page overhaul? Virtually all the components now live on the page, with the exception of some of the more complicated (like Featured Article), that way we don't have to hunt down which "part" of the main page we have to edit. The only thing that needs a tweak is the help/guidelines section so it fits within the left side.

I'd also like to propose stripping everything from the individual portal pages (i.e. Legion, etc.) except for the actual expansion-related content. That way we have a lot of room to showcase content rather than limiting ourselves to whatever space is left over after placing what's typically main page material. Raylan13@Wikia (talk) 19:45, September 26, 2015 (UTC)

I ended up tweaking that section so it fits now - so now it's been carried over to the live page.
I'll start working on each individual portal page slowly, starting with Legion. After all is said and done, we'll finally be able to get rid of all the separate top, bottom, whatever components :P Raylan13@Wikia (talk) 03:10, September 27, 2015 (UTC)

Reply to Heirlooms. Edit

Yes, I got the [Chauffeured Chopper]. By the way, can you add Heirloom Upgrade Level on Template:Tooltip? I don't want to use |upgradelevel= on Heirlooms. Angelicstarshadow (talk) 02:55, September 28, 2015 (UTC)

follow-up question (re: toon images) Edit

Ref.: WoWWiki_talk:Player_character_page_policy#Policies_on_toon_screenshots.3F?

I had a follow-up question. please. ;-) Thanks. -- Fwcain (talk) 19:33, September 28, 2015 (UTC)

I will also update the relevant policies with examples. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 28 Sep 2015 12:09 PM Pacific

Tooltips for the German WoWWikiEdit

Hello Fandyllic!

To answer your question: Yes, I still need help with tooltips. I adopted the German WoWWiki half a year ago and tried to look for ways to implement tooltips, expecting it to be relatively easy. Needless to say, I failed miserably when trying to understand the structure of your tooltip template. Now, after months of working on WoWWiki, I started to play around with templates on my second wiki for testing purposes, beginning to understand most parts of the template structure and the function of the connected templates, too. Still, my level of understanding is not enough for me to try a transition of the templates to the WoWWiki. Can you please help me?

Crypoc (talk) 19:01, October 1, 2015 (UTC)

Hello again, the tooltip looks really fine! Thanks again for taking care of this matter. I will copy the CSS over as soon as you give me the details. Crypoc (talk) 20:20, October 2, 2015 (UTC)
The CSS content of the linked page has been copied over. I will rename anything visible and the quality classes with the German names in time, as you suggested. Crypoc (talk) 20:50, October 2, 2015 (UTC)

Lich King Edit

The Lich King is Undead not a Lich. —This unsigned comment is by Ennio Paone (talkcontribs) 08:32, October 3, 2015‎. Please sign your posts with ~~~~!

The Lich King is both Undead AND a Lich, just not the regular kind of lich. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 3 Oct 2015 7:45 AM Pacific

German WoWWiki tooltips againEdit

Hello, I have requested the codeadmin from the Wikia staff, since there's still some JS stuff that's not done yet. Waiting for their response. Meanwhile, how far are we into the process of implementing the tooltips over at our wiki? I have noticed that the tooltip works quite well, but there is one slight problem when copying over a filled tooltip aswell as when filling it from scratch. When looking at the Thunderfury page, you may notice that the text behind the braces still gets put into the tooltip. Maybe a problem with the brace count in the template?
Crypoc (talk) 22:22, October 4, 2015 (UTC)

Trying to figure out how to fix the problem and prevent stuff that shouldn't be part of the tooltip box shooing up inside box. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 4 Oct 2015 2:30 PM Pacific
I've tried the corrected version on several pages, seems to work without any hickups. I just got the codeadmin rights, so the .JS parts can be taken care of, too.
Anyway, I stumbled upon a minor flaw when using the {{item}} template here, where it doesn't show the quality color on the linked item name. Seems like some quality values need to be translated, gonna try to follow that up now. Crypoc (talk) 14:03, October 5, 2015 (UTC)
{{item}} template works, used the code provided by you and adjusted the quality names accordingly. Should've thought of looking into the necessary css parts in the first place, then again I remember you even recommending me to do so. Crypoc (talk) 16:12, October 5, 2015 (UTC)
Hello again! I gotta say, the tooltips look just fabulous. This is a major step up in providing more content to the visitors, since our wiki was pretty much abandoned for literally years. That being said, may I suggest going a little further and trying to make the mouseover/hover tooltips work? Crypoc (talk) 00:31, October 8, 2015 (UTC)
I copied over the content and forced the reload, but no tooltips are popping up.
Crypoc (talk) 15:42, October 8, 2015 (UTC)

Monobook Edit

I was wondering if you could take a gander at what Monobook looks like. TwoTailedFox reports that the button menu at the top is clipped by the article body and the bottom has a band of white from the standard Monobook skin. I don't know if it's something we did or Wikia did, though I suspect the latter. TTF can provide you more details Winky Raylan13@Wikia (talk) 16:44, October 8, 2015 (UTC)

Message Wall, etc. Edit

Given plans that are on the horizon, I'm all for switching over to Message Wall and the new Forums. Article comments, however, I'm on the fence about. I've had good experiences with them (good comments, pointers, etc.) and bad (massive spamming of nonsense). I'm leaning toward not including them. Raylan13@Wikia (talk) 16:46, October 8, 2015 (UTC)

Portals Edit

I'm not sure if you want any of the rest of it fixed, or if Legion through Cata are the way they are intended, so I'll stop there. If you look at the ones afterward (previous releases) the menus fit. If you want a responsive version for all of them let me know. Thanks :) Celess22 (talk) 15:59, October 18, 2015 (UTC)

Classification Edit

It looks like something we'll only benefit from, and it doesn't look like anything catastrophic could happen Tongueout. Raylan13@Wikia (talk) 01:28, October 28, 2015 (UTC)

Account recoveryEdit

Hello there! I'm a former member by the name of Kirochi. I'm trying to recover my account but I'm not receiving confirmation e-mail on any e-mailbox I was using at the time. Do you think there's a way for me to make sure which address is registered in there? Also, would it be easier through e-mail? My address is olivierhandelsman at gmail.-- 14:44, November 3, 2015 (UTC)

I would use Special:Contact/general and give Wikia staff your e-mail address. I don't have access to the user accounts DB. If you're having problems using Special:Contact/general, I'll hook you up with a Wikia staff contact who deals more directly with WoWWiki stuff.
Hopefully it is easy to recover your account. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 3 Nov 2015 9:47 AM Pacific

Warcraft ride Edit

Do you think Universal will make a Warcraft ride for their parks in the near future? Byzantinefire (talk) 19:29, November 7, 2015 (UTC)

LOL is this a WoW Design team question? This might have to be a twitter question I ask later... --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 7 Nov 2015 12:26 PM Pacific
Actually i was just asking you but it would make very good question for the design team. Byzantinefire (talk) 20:48, November 7, 2015 (UTC)
Not really an appropriate Design Team question, but I'll look into it. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 7 Nov 2015 2:13 PM Pacific
I'll send this question to the general Blizz contact who said they will try to get answers to questions after BlizzCon. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 9 Nov 2015 11:10 AM Pacific

Vietnamese WoWWiki Edit

Hi Fandyllic, I'm the one building WoW Wiki site with Vietnamese. Can you help me with these infobox and template?

You can check out my problem here. I copied the source text from the same page on wowwiki, but it seems the infobox_character doesnt work well. I have no idea why this trim-code goes wrong


This infobox - War on this page should face the same problem

Thank you for reading. I'm looking forward to hear your advice soon.

Best regards,

Hi Fandyllic,

Delete user page and subpages Edit

Sorry if this is the incorrect way to ask. I've been a hugely inactive member for years now and I think it's time to just pull off that bandaid. Are you able to delete the user page for Peregrine2976, and all associated subpages? ~My rage bar is blue and I start the fight pissed - Peregrine 03:57, November 9, 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, I can do that. Not sure how one can be "hugely" inactive, though. Winky --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 9 Nov 2015 11:10 AM Pacific

Inclusion Of Edit

Hello. According to Matt Burns fel/demonic magic can still be viewed as black magic (or a black magic) from a character's POV and I'm wondering if I should put that in the trivia or at fel magic's description at the very top of the page? Fruitmedley (talk) 20:02, November 23, 2015 (UTC)

You can put it in Trivia, but what is black magic anyway in the Warcraft universe? --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 23 Nov 2015 3:35 PM Pacific

Legion alpha Edit

For edits to the site, I'm defaulting to reverting anything that isn't playable in the alpha. I just started playing last night, and the only thing we currently have access to is the demon hunter starting experience. I want to say there's a dungeon, too, but I haven't looked in that direction. Tongueout

Hopefully tomorrow I'll dive right in and start updating Legion-related stuff (no NDA), assuming I get done with what I need to today. Raylan13@Wikia (talk) 17:36, November 24, 2015 (UTC)

Cool. I didn't get into the Alpha from what I can tell, but that's okay. I've been really busy. If I get in, I'll start adding stuff. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 24 Nov 2015 9:46 AM Pacific

Wikis Edit

Just in case you weren't aware previously, the right-aligned TOC on the Wikis page is not playing nicely with its neighboring content.
TheRealPella (talk) 21:38, November 27, 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. I tried to make it fit better, but I'm not sure if there is a great solution. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 27 Nov 2015 1:57 PM Pacific

Thal'Dranath map Edit

Actually, it is Tongueout. There's no map for the Broken Shore, but clicking on the Thal'Dranath zone opens up the map I uploaded. Raylan13@Wikia (talk) 21:15, December 2, 2015 (UTC)

Hmm... the shape of the islands of Thal'Dranath on the build 20740 Broken Isles map doesn't match the the Broken Shore map. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 2 Dec 2015 3:06 PM Pacific
Yeah, it's weird. A new build just dropped today, so I'll take a peek and see if anything's changed with the in-game map. I almost suspect that Thal and BS are connected, but who knows. Raylan13@Wikia (talk) 23:12, December 2, 2015 (UTC)
There was some sensible speculation that Thal'Dranath was very unfinished and may be Legion's equivalent of Tanaan Jungle. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 2 Dec 2015 3:22 PM Pacific

Makes sense. Alpha is still down for the new build, so it might not be until tomorrow until I get in. Raylan13@Wikia (talk) 23:37, December 2, 2015 (UTC)

Broken Shore is now showing that map, fyi, and Thal'Dranath has none as of the current build. Raylan13@Wikia (talk) 17:40, December 4, 2015 (UTC)
Vindicated! Winky --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 4 Dec 2015 9:45 AM Pacific

Artifact relic slots Edit

Heya Winky Do you think we should add relic artifact slots to the socket or tooltip template? You can see what I mean here; as near as I can tell, we don't have that yet and they aren't the same as gems, though they function the same.

So far I've seen the Water and Life (above link), and then Wind and Iron. Raylan13@Wikia (talk) 23:29, December 3, 2015 (UTC)

Thanks Smiley Raylan13@Wikia (talk) 23:57, December 3, 2015 (UTC)
Here's what I've found so far:
--Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 3 Dec 2015 4:04 PM Pacific
You are quick Smiley Thanks! I'll let you know if I spot anything else. Raylan13@Wikia (talk) 16:33, December 4, 2015 (UTC)

Infobox implementation Edit

Do you mind if I take some of the portable infoboxes live from this list? Raylan13@Wikia (talk) 16:57, December 12, 2015 (UTC)

Can you update the CSS so they look more like the originals? --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 12 Dec 2015 9:22 AM Pacific
That should already be done (I hope?). If the changes aren't being seen, hard refresh or null edit should do the trick. Raylan13@Wikia (talk) 17:08, December 14, 2015 (UTC)
Well, it sort of looks like the original, but it's obviously different. I'm mostly talking about the title padding, image sizing, and the image caption is missing. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 14 Dec 2015 9:42 AM Pacific
I don't believe title padding or image sizing can be tweaked further - in fact, I had to tweak it on Hearthstone to show a specific dimension, which was fine there because they're all the same. Captions are there, though, for all the infoboxes that had them in use. I'll throw those questions over to our team, just in case something has changed.
Looks like I'll have to go back and examine the website infobox, though. It was working when I first did it, but something must have changed in the base infobox code in the meantime Tongueout. Raylan13@Wikia (talk) 20:28, December 14, 2015 (UTC)

There we go Smiley Title and image issues dealt with - turns out a lot has changed since I first touched them. Aside from the one infobox I mentioned being borked, how do you feel about implementation at this point? Raylan13@Wikia (talk) 18:43, December 16, 2015 (UTC)

Sounds good. I'll slowly be working on others and will keep them in draft form until looked at. If you see anything broken, let me know Tongueout Raylan13@Wikia (talk) 19:08, December 16, 2015 (UTC)
Sure can - you can also look via the history for the old version. Raylan13@Wikia (talk) 17:04, December 22, 2015 (UTC)

Images embedded within articles Edit

Hey Fandyllic,

I'm curious what your opinion is regarding images within the text body of articles. I have seen many examples throughout the wiki where images are embedded within the body of a text of an article in a logical manner. However, I also see cases where an article contains many images, which aren't necessarily placed in the best place within the article. So far, I have tried to approach it in a way that if an image is relevant to the content being described, I will try to have it placed along-side the content of the section. Otherwise, I will move images into a separate "gallery" section. From time-to-time I see articles which appear as though many different users have plopped in new images of their own over time, to a point where it begins to look cluttered.

To what extent do you like to see images integrated within the body of the article? Do you prefer if most (or all) images are within a wiki-style gallery?
-Sitb (talk) 18:53, December 18, 2015 (UTC)

I trust your judgement. I only like to see images in the body of the article if they integrate well with the flow and topic of that part of the article. They shouldn't be more than about 25-30% of the width of the article content. I would like to see all images appear in galleries under the "Images" section, but it's not crucial. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 18 Dec 2015 11:03 AM Pacific

Blizzard Pictures Edit

Hello, I created a wiki, and I'm just wondering how do you show the license a picture from Blizzard falls under? —This unsigned comment is by Necrophotic (talkcontribs) 13:44, December 29, 2015‎. Please sign your posts with ~~~~!

Quick questionEdit

If I help around the wiki, improving and adding content and such, could you teach me about website maintenance and development? You seem like a pretty credible coder and codebase maintainer. Atatar (talk) 03:41, January 13, 2016 (UTC)

You're a programmer, aren't you? If so, I'm guessing you primarily work in the field of web development, rather than, say, systems programming or security. Or do you just work on wiki-side development specifically? Atatar (talk) 04:19, January 22, 2016 (UTC)
I'm not a programmer, technically, but I have programming skills. I mostly only do Python programming for automated testing. I've dabbled in JavaScript, Lua, C#, C++, etc. I'm writing Lua modules basically because they are a much better, more elegant solution than the mainly parser function based templates. I've also heard they have decent performance. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 22 Jan 2016 8:11 AM Pacific

Videos Edit

Sorry, delete them if you want, I just wanted people to see them. Cecijo

LocalizedMapZones Edit

Hello, can you explain me why you reverted my edits on this page? I added and fixed some French zone names. Why did you undo that? 22:26, January 19, 2016 (UTC) (edit: didn't mean to sound rude)

Sorry, it was a mistake. It should be restored now. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 19 Jan 2016 3:51 PM Pacific
Thanks! By the way if you got time to look at the index values in the tables, it's a real mess... 23:55, January 19, 2016 (UTC)

What drives you? Edit

Weren't you, like, one of the most prominent editors back in the day too, with the Wowpedia crew? What stopped you from moving to Curse with them and made you here mostly by yourself, on a wiki losing in page count, contributions and SEO? I know that sounds pretty offensive, but I'm really curious as to what's keeping you here -- you, an amazing editor by all accounts. Do you like being the absolute head dog? Did you have bad relations with those who moved to Wowpedia? Did you generally feel the reason behind moving to Curse was petty (I sure do)? What is it keeping the great Fandyllic tied down here? 02:39, January 20, 2016 (UTC)

Your question is predicated on the supposed greatness of Wowpedia, which I reject. However, the honest truth is that several of the admins who moved over from WoWWiki to Wowpedia are what drove me away from Wowpedia, not to WoWWiki per se. The only admin over at Wowpedia I really liked was Kaydeethree, but he wasn't enough to keep me there.
Also, I never really significantly contributed to Wowpedia, it's just that it looks like it because they basically stole all of the WoWWiki DB and had no way to distinguish between who made edits where except by date.
Lastly, I have nothing against Curse (they actually sent me a gift package!), but it doesn't have the variety and community that Wikia has. I contribute to many other wikis and the unified login makes it so easy. I'm a significant admin at the Downton Abbey wiki (yes, it seems strange, I know), but Curse is mostly limited to gaming wikis.
If you primarily contribute at Wowpedia, please feel free to continue stealing stuff from WoWWiki, but only if you credit WoWWiki. I steal stuff from Wowpedia on an occasional basis, because it has many superior aspects, but I always credit Wowpedia. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 20 Jan 2016 9:58 AM Pacific
Oh, no, I'm not a Wowpedia contributor. Like I said, I think their reason for splitting the community up was pretty petty and short-sighted. Plus, on my computer, Curse's advertisements seem more invasive than even Wikia's.
So, you did have pretty bad relations with the forkers (except Kaydee). I was just curious; it seems like it would get lonely here is all. You should spread your talents across Wikia and help people out and stuff, for the greater good of all wikis. Doesn't editing the same wiki get old? No? 06:18, January 21, 2016 (UTC)

Help with the Wiki Edit

hey, i'm trying to be te new admin in WoWWiki in spanish,  been translating pages from here, i want to know if you don't have problem with that,and if someone can make your infoboxes in the WoWWiki in spanish,i will be too much gratfull with you, because i don't know how to do that, thanks for all!

PD1:i translate all this page from here:, if you want to see how i do it

PD2: sorry for the bad english, i do what i can hahahaFor The Horde! (talk) 19:59, January 20, 2016 (UTC)

oh, thanks you, in the wiki we have some infoboxes, but are old or something, and for that can't be usable,and i don't know code for try to make they function,if you want to know, the 4 admins are inactive,in 2 or 3 days i go to try adopting the wiki —This unsigned comment is by Luquitax12 (talkcontribs) 14:39, January 20, 2016‎. Please sign your posts with ~~~~!

oh grat, thanks, i can't see the npc template right now,but you're working on it maybe that's reason, right?,however, thanks for help with this.

oh, it's really good, i do articles without infoboxes, now is more helpfull for the people who want to see the wiki!For The Horde! (talk) 23:54, January 20, 2016 (UTC)

Translating Edit

i forget to say something, if you need some help translating something to spanish, tell me, if i can i will help you, and yes, what you say before in spanish is right!

PD:i use your infobox here, looking how it's look,here

Morkros (talk) 16:50, January 21, 2016 (UTC)

Hey Fandyllic, is ready the NPCbox you're making?, i want to ask if you can make the Infobox for zones, or the Quotebox, i don't know how to do that,sorry for this,if you can't i will understand.Morkros (talk) 00:22, January 23, 2016 (UTC)

Question Edit

Greetings! I am a WoW player, and I am fairly active here on Wikia since 2012. I was wondering if there was an existing WoW Fanon Wiki. I found one (wowfanon.wikia) but I'm not sure if there are any active ones. Would you happen to know? I'm more than willing to join an active one, but if not, I'm eager to rebuild the one I found. :3 --Nachtide 22:11, January 24, 2016 (UTC)

Chose wrong license Edit

when uploading a picture, I selected the wrong license. Where do I go to delete photo and choose the right license? —This unsigned comment is by Necrophotic (talkcontribs) 16:20, February 2, 2016‎. Please sign your posts with ~~~~!

See Changing the license after uploading an image. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 2 Feb 2016 4:46 PM Pacific

More infoboxes Edit

Can you zip through really quick at some point and approve the newest batch of converted infoboxes? Winky Raylan13@Wikia (talk) 16:48, February 4, 2016 (UTC)

Anaheim Convention CenterEdit

I just found out that BlizzCon is always held annually at the Anaheim Convention Center does that mean you also partook in going to Downtown Disney and Disneyland? Byzantinefire (talk) 17:55, February 14, 2016 (UTC)

What a strange question! Unfortunately, the answer is no. I was staying pretty close to there, though. Raylan13 may have had a chance to do some Disneyland. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 14 Feb 2016 10:33 AM Pacific

Sub-Races removalEdit

Hello You have recently relocated my page on Sub-Races in World of Warcraft. I understand that this is not an official part of Blizzards content, but it has been mentioned repeatedly in Blizzcon Q&As. It is a widely regarded discussion and has a good chance of being added in the future. Secondly, the page wasn't actually completed. I was actually in the midst of writing some more information on the various clans and actually sub-species, such as the "High Elves" and "Forest Trolls". Is it possible that with some more editing that this concept could be officially added to the wiki? Thanks and please reply :) Scraulle (talk) 08:16, February 16, 2016 (UTC)

From CecijoEdit

Hi Fandyllic, I have to ask you something about page Viryx, when I edited the page, I've added categories (Deceased characters and Arakkoa), but when I published my edit, the categories weren't there and they still aren't....I hope that you know what's wrong.:)Cecijo (talk) 12:01, March 3, 2016 (UTC)

Thank you :)Edit

Thank you so much, I just want to expand WOWWIKI a little.Cecijo (talk) 12:22, March 9, 2016 (UTC)

Major charactersEdit

Hi, I've worked a lot on Major characters page, so I'm a little curious, can I add World of Warcraft: Illidan and World of Warcraft: Legion to the page?Cecijo (talk) 13:37, March 10, 2016 (UTC)

On a related note, I just finished my test page for the re-structured layout of that article. I would be interested to hear either of your inputs in this discussion :)
-Sitb (talk) 17:38, March 10, 2016 (UTC)

Item template Edit

Heya Winky I noticed that, for some reason, the item template doesn't respect parentheses in item names. For instance, on the Artifact Weapon page, any artifact page name that has (artifact) in it acts as if (artifact) doesn't exist. Using the item template for Apocalypse (artifact) yields this: Inv sword 2h artifactsoulrend d 01 [Apocalypse] and subsequently doesn't lead to the correct page. Raylan13@Wikia (talk) 17:46, March 12, 2016 (UTC)

Ah, got it Grin Learn something new every day. Raylan13@Wikia (talk) 19:32, March 12, 2016 (UTC)
Yeah, I just noticed that. Also can't use underscores, it seems, when popping in the |disambigpage= parameter. Works now Tongueout Raylan13@Wikia (talk) 20:07, March 12, 2016 (UTC)
Yeah, I learned that too about the underscores. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 12 Mar 2016 12:10 PM Pacific

"Ajaxsub" TemplateEdit

Hey Fandyllic

I am playing around with the Ajaxsub template you recommended a while back, as a way to re-structure the Mount article. That method looks like it is going to work wonderfully for cutting down on load times for the page. However, do you know if there is a way to collapse the list again, once it has already been loaded on the page? There is a "hide" button in the top right of the table once it is expanded, but it doesn't actually do anything when I click on it. Strangely, the "edit' button next to it does work. Here is the test page where I am using it.

-Sitb (talk) 16:35, March 22, 2016 (UTC)

It's being looked into, but I left Rappy's suggestion on Sitb's talk page. Raylan13@Wikia (talk) 18:25, March 22, 2016 (UTC)


I see that you've made the Uncrowned page, but few months ago, I have made a page The Uncrowned.Cecijo (talk) 18:43, March 23, 2016 (UTC)

I will merge them. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 23 Mar 2016 2:22 PM Pacific


Hello, I'm a french contributor of WikiWoWFR and I would like to have the graphic logo of your Wiki (The last, like ours) because you surely had to see how ours is... to change. So, please, have mercy. O.O

Azqswxzeman (talk) 18:08, March 29, 2016 (UTC)

Tanks ! ... But have you the Logo before ? like this.
Azqswxzeman (talk) 18:23, March 29, 2016 (UTC)

Chronicle Edit

Figured you'd catch the citation ask Winky Raylan13@Wikia (talk) 15:47, March 30, 2016 (UTC)

Gameshub content Edit

I'll see what I can salvage from internet history. Frowney Raylan13@Wikia (talk) 18:59, April 11, 2016 (UTC)

Salvaged what I could and made the new pages subpages of BlizzCon 2014. I updated the template on CC, but it might take a bit for cache to catch up. Raylan13@Wikia (talk) 22:30, April 18, 2016 (UTC)

FYI Edit

Handed out a ban today I really didn't want to - just wanted to let you know. I haven't checked icon upload, but article content looks copied to me. Seeing as how there's been three separate warnings, I didn't know what else to do. I'll go back through his contribs when I've got more time and source them. Raylan13@Wikia (talk) 16:04, April 22, 2016 (UTC)

Apology letterEdit

Hi Fandyllic, I realize yesterday that I got banned for doing a copyright without any attribution. I just wanted to say that I'm sorry and I'll try to be more careful.--Spenpiano (talk) 17:07, April 23, 2016 (UTC)

Aww, thank you. :)--Spenpiano (talk) 22:29, April 24, 2016 (UTC)

Edit CheckEdit

Mind if you double-check on the previous edits I did? Irulon Trueblade, Kriss Goldenlight, and Sven Yorgen--Spenpiano (talk) 17:35, April 25, 2016 (UTC)


Hi Fandyllic, there are three pages about Nazgrim (Sergeant Nazgrim, Legionnaire Nazgrim and General Nazgrim) and of course Nazgrim disambiguation page. I have already asked if there is a possibility to merge the pages but only Sitb replied. I wondered if you can do something about it.SmileyCecijo (talk) 12:03, April 26, 2016 (UTC)

Nazgrim mergeEdit

Hi Fandyllic, I've made a page with all 3 Nazgrims merged, it is here with all the quests from Wrath, Cataclysm and MoP, with all the images as well. Tell me what you think, if you like it you can merge them SmileyCecijo (talk) 11:39, April 27, 2016 (UTC)

NYR Edit

Hi Fandyllic, I added the NYR sections in a few pages that I edited, but I just want to know if I did right.--Spenpiano (talk) 17:38, April 27, 2016 (UTC)

Ah, excellent.--Spenpiano (talk) 19:37, April 27, 2016 (UTC)

Knights of the Silver HandEdit

Just wanted to ask a good question. Not to argue, I promise. Are you sure its a good idea to split the article into two or more? I think it would alright that remain as it is.--Spenpiano (talk) 22:13, April 27, 2016 (UTC)

I have added few external links on User:Cecijo/Nazgrim. I don't know if I did it good, tell me what you think.Cecijo (talk) 14:12, April 28, 2016 (UTC)

External Links on Nazgrim Edit

Hi Fandyllic, added few external links on User:Cecijo/Nazgrim, for all 3 Nazgrims.Cecijo (talk) 12:25, April 30, 2016 (UTC)

Bad ads Edit

Was casually browsing some items on your website and noticed that at least one of your adds is stealing the browser session and taking me to a page to download a adobe plugin update.  The URL is bogus - Virus alert for PC newbies.

You may want to check that your site has not been hacked or at least one of your advertizers has not been hacked.

Regards, 19:00, May 1, 2016 (UTC) Robin Elliott

We (the admins) have no control over ads. That's Wikia's domain. See Help:Bad ads. If you have a registered account, report them via Special:Contact/bad-ad. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 1 May 2016 1:00 PM Pacific

Lorna Crowley and Tess GreymaneEdit

Hi Fandyllic, just want to ask, was there any info that Lorna Crowley and Tess Greymane were to become Worgen in the World of Warcraft: Legion?--Spenpiano (talk) 23:53, May 4, 2016 (UTC)

Not that I know of... see more at User_talk:Spenpiano#Lorna_Crowley_and_Tess_Greymane_becoming_worgen_in_Legion. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 4 May 2016 3:58 PM Pacific

Thank you :)--Spenpiano (talk) 00:00, May 5, 2016 (UTC)

Sorry for removed stuff Edit

I'm awfully sorry, Was trying to add leigion info when for some reason the whole thing dissapeared. —This unsigned comment is by Themadguy (talkcontribs) 09:47, May 12, 2016‎. Please sign your posts with ~~~~!


Hi Mr. Fandyllic, I just wanted to ask if you would like to check on one of my ideas I made: Operation: Greymane. If you have anything to say, let me know :)--Spenpiano (talk) 21:19, May 15, 2016 (UTC)

Were u able to receive my message from the User talk:Spenpiano/Operation: Greymane by any chance?--Spenpiano (talk) 14:44, May 17, 2016 (UTC)
Yes, but I'm not sure if I have anything to add. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 17 May 2016 7:05 AM Pacific

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