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Suffix 'DinEdit

Speculation of the suffix "'din" doesn't seem right, in my opinion. I welcome more people that will try to translate sentences but if you look here: That 'din would mean "of the/of/the" then where is the "din" in the quote "Anar'alah belore" which means "By the light of the Sun"? Or even "Anar'endal dracon", which means "By the breath of the dragon".

Some phrases Edit

  • Bash'a no falor talah:

In the words' table "no" is said to mean "true" or "of the" but when we look at the other pharses, we can see that there is no "of the" in Thalassian. The "true" seems incorrect too 'cos it makes the word order look odd. I found a nice article "Thalassian Basics" somewhere on the Internet and after I've read it most phrases and words started making better sense. I've already included the rules from that article here. And that's what I think: Suffix 'a means "you". Here it probably points at the object the speaker is talking to. And then we just put the remaining words in their order, omitting "of the" and "the" (which don't exist in Thalassian). Translating word-by-word we get: Taste(you) (the) chill (of) true death. So, we've got some more words:

  • Bash - taste,
  • No - chill,
  • Falor - true,
  • Talah - death.


  • Anu belore dela'na:

I guess "Anu" doesn't mean "us". As we can notice, Verb+Object is written as Verb'Object, so the part that means "guides us" might be "dela'na". So, we get dela = guide, suffix 'na = us. However, I can't tell what exactly "Anu" means then, but I have a few ideas:

  • 1) One/only because high and blood elves worship the sun and "Anu" is for like the only true God.
  • 2) Eternal. Less probable, because I actually heard the phrase "The eternal sun guides us" (or something like that) from tauren NPCs in-game. Seems the possible explanation for what "Anu" can be.

To be continued...

Linguistic value Edit

This is far from linguistics * sigh* as it's based on final form only, not meaning. In inuit group of languages there's no word for enemy, but there is words like "soulless", "not true people" and so on. In chinese there's no word "dragon" (as european dragon) or "emperor" (as emperor of Rome, for example) — it's just what we call it.

Although, Thalassian is far from language.

0) Alah — light, shine. May origin from -la- — radiation.

1) An is clearly pointer to a person. With different modifiers it may turn into

Ana — you (the person)

Anar — of you (version of pronoun "your" for using with verb, "made by you")

Anaria — your (adj.)

Anu — us (plural of "An")

Anore — our (pron., plural of "Anaria")

'a — to you (Ana — "An" to you O_o)

'o — to me (us?)

-ar — Now "An-ar", "An-ar-ia", "An-or-e" may lead us to conclusion, that "-ar-" ("-or-') is a possesive suffix. Which, in turn, may (or may not, of course) lead us to some conclusions

  • "-bel-' is the base of "bel-or-e" (our "bel').
  • "-malan-" is the base which mean "journey", malan-or → this, who belongs to journey → traveller

Speculating that

a) "-bel-" may've evolve into "-bal-" meaning "warmth" (as/or something given by "belore")

b) "-e" is (pro)noun flection

"bal'a dash, malanore" may be translated as "<warmth>'<to you> <unknown verb>,<journey-><-those who-><-(pro)noun>

2) D- — This who(what) born (brought to live)

Da — ("D'a") "This who give life to me"

Dal — may origin from "D'al(ah)" → "This, who born light"

Dalah — may origin from "Dal'(al)ah" — "Star light", therefore it's clearly doesn't mean "My" (which woud be "Or" if even used in pure pronoun form, which is highly doubdfull). Meaning of "Surfal" in "dalah'surfal" therefore remains obscured (see "fal" below).

Doral — D-or-al(ah) → This who born - your - ligh (supp.) → Luck, good fortune — "Doral ana'diel?" — (Does)-light-guide(or is it "shone above"?) your'path?

Dorei — D-or-ei → Those who born - your - 's (plural noun?) → your kin, those of your blood.

3) 'duna — plural of 'din (of the)? → "those of"?  → Isera'duna — Those of green (Those green ones)?  → Iser(a)'din → Green-skin?

4) -Fal-The Truth (see zoroastrian Aša)

Falor — Fal-or — belonging to Truth (to the true side)

Fallah — Fal-(a)lah — (the) light of Truth → right kind of ways → balance

Surfal — Sur-fal — "???" of Truth → True "???"

5) Na(h) — As opposite (reversal of) to An — pointer to specific (the) un-person (opponent, someone who oppose us)

No — plural of Na (see -a, -o)

Noral — N(a/o)-or-al(ah) — oppositor - of - shine. "Ama noral'arkhana" — "Salvation by-oppositive-shine'(of) magic"

6) Shala — may be (or may be not as well) ralative to -alah.

7) Shola — may as well be "need", "wish" or "desire". "Anaria shola" — "Your aspiration(?)" → "What do you want?" (as in "What can I do you for?"). Or "(To) your service"

8) -Tal- — death (un-radiation?).

Tallah — Tal-(a)lah — death - light → darkness? grip of death? oblivion? non-existence?

9) Thondroril — doesn't contatin even a slightest hint of -iser-(green), therefore "Green" in it's translation is highly questionable. Though -Thon- might be a form of -Thor-? which may mean "amok", "rage" or "fury".

Badunius (talk) 02:10, April 10, 2016 (UTC)

Fine for speculation, but without refs, still speculation. Feel free to add this stuff as long as it is identified as speculation. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 10 Apr 2016 9:05 AM Pacific

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