What is he? I thought he was a dire troll after seeing , or was that just a placeholder? User:Coobra/Sig3 21:51, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Placeholder. Beta, you know. User:Gourra/Sig2 21:56, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
Yea... so... then what is he? Cause he ogly. User:Coobra/Sig3 23:44, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

I would believe he is some type of undead troll, judging by how he speaks in quests and how his placeholder model was a dire troll. Toran Wildpaw of the Frenzyheart (talk) 00:08, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Ya, either an undead troll or some variation of undeath like Arthas himself. The change into his current form was due to the an empowerment by the Lich King so it's something scourgy. Amirw (talk) 13:22, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

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