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the idea of him walden and the 3rd guy plotting against sylvanas and killing her
i know i give these things usually but in the prince caspian movie 2nd battle of beruna didnt sopespian giorgiore and and a 3rd lord of the usurper miraz who did get the throne through a poison in his brother(the true king shakespeare also) in those 2 times they betrayed their leader--Sartorias (talk) 19:44, November 21, 2011 (UTC)