What about them?--Gurluas 15:37, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
- Whelpling is the same term for "whelp" I think. Whelp is just short for whelpling.Baggins 10:24, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
- The small pets are much smaller than the whelps mobs, thus leading me to believe they must be younger?
maybe it newly hatched?, maybe they mean it takes 1 year for a whelpling to become a whelp and 100 years for a whelp to become a drake?, given whelps are plenty while drakes are rare.--Gurluas 13:56, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
- Whelplings and whelps are interchangable terms, in many sources, as far as I know. No your idea is wrong, it is very specific that between 1 and 100 years they are drakes already. Anything before that is considered a "whelp". Actually to be clear the book doesn't even mention whelps by that term, it just states that, no one had encountered any young dragons smaller than a drake, and that drakes, dragons, and wyrms are the three main age categories for dragons. Of course we do know that a few characters have since encountered whelps/whelplings (black whelps in Warcraft III in Barrow Dens comes to mind). If I recal correctly the implication in Warcraft III when the black whelps were first encountered, the heroes thought they were rare, of course MoM implies that anything younger than a drake is rare for dragons. It isn't until WoW that whelps started coming out of the woodwork so to speak.
- BTW as its related, Monster Guide speaks of whelps being earliest stage of dragons growth, but does not speak of exact age between whelps and drakes.
- Also, lest you forget the dragon whelps in ony cave encounter, are "newly hatched" when they start attacking you. So size matters not. That would also point to there being no difference between the term whelp and whelplings.Baggins 23:17, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
- Well to make things even stranger, Dark Factions implies that not all whelps become drakes. It's possible for whelps can grow into adulthood and eventually die of old age/venerable/maximum age before ever becoming a drake. These whelps are basically giant oversized whelps (an adult whelp is at least 4 feet tall).Baggins (talk) 21:13, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
The Netherwing Dragonflight is an incredibly young flight, having only been extant since Draenor was shattered - about 24 years by the beginning of the Burning Crusade - and as such, would all be drakes were they a different dragonflight as the age progressions provided show:
Whelps 0-1 Drakes 1-100 Mature 100+
However, I'm guessing that the fact that Neltharaku and his mate Karynaku are clearly mature dragons despite their young age means that the same rules don't apply. Thoughts? ---- Vorbis Talk Contribs 19:32, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
- Well there is some issues even with red dragonflight. If you go by details mentioned in Day of the Dragon, it would seem that red dragons were aging quickly... Their eggs were hatched, they grew into mounts, and they were apparently killed before they got too old and were uncontrollable. The problem I see here is that the time period between the second war and the battle of Grim Batol is very short indeed, something like 4-5 years? Warlock aging perhaps?
- For the case of netherwings? The affect of the twisting nether?Baggins (talk) 19:38, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
Night elven agingEdit
Adult:300 (or 110) Middle age:500 Old:650 Venerable:700 Max age: 705-1200 (or up to 2000)
Nordrassil stood for 10 000 years, rendering the maximum age up to roughly 12 000 years; if you were old or venerable when Nordrassil was planted.
Even though, the Warcraft Encyclopedia states that "all elves are now mortal and have comparable lifespans that can extend as long as several thousand years". I'm not sure how to interpret this, but several thousand should be more than 2000. It might be that after losing their immortality, they've gained a longer life span than they had before the planting of Nordrassil. If I'm right in this, the maximum age per today still is 12 000.
Any thoughts on this? --Oponyxal 20:48, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
It should be noted that these are characters (player characters) that have been born in the last 2000 years. That is they will have shorter lifespan than those that were living 10,000 years ago. Remember its a player character age table. The idea is one is playing characters that may be less knowledgeable than elders in their race. Although that's really just a suggestion anyone could play anyway they wanted to if they chose to. Infact one doesn't even have to stick to the table if they don't want to.Baggins (talk) 05:40, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
- Coobra is 5,344 years old... Doesn't look a day over 5,000 though. =) User:Coobra/Sig3 20:17, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
um yea the night elves were inmortal it says so in Warcraft III, when talking about Malfurion's plan about burning the world tree Tirande says : "you do realize that we will age like this mortals" or something like that
My guess is 10,000 years for pure Eredar and 1,000 for draenei, and immortal for Man'ari eredar(demons are immortal)
- Agreed on man'ari being immortal. But regarding draenei lifespans, check Jessera of Mac'Aree's page. (Also, "pure eredar" = draenei.)
Farseer Lolotea • talk • contrib 23:06, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
so here is my fanfict draenei lifespan:
Someone on Bloodmyst Isle, can't remember who, says "few now remember Argus" or something like that. Which indicates that there must be others who are that old. As for those who have died since leaving Argus, I'd expect quite a lot of those to have been killed by the Horde in Draenor, or else in the crashes of Oshu'gun and Exodar. So this seems to suggest that not so long ago (relatively) there was a sizeable population of draenei aged 25,000+.
Yes, some will likely have died of old age over the millenia, but if there are a few still alive today there must once have been more. And I'd be very surprised if the ones aged 24,900 a hundred years ago all survived the Horde. Assuming a large proportion of them died then, there would have been quite a few who were that old beforehand. In addition a hundred years isn't much compared to the 25,000 they have lived so far, so I doubt that the deaths between then and now have all been from old age.The page is currently claiming that they're immortal. AFAIK, that's still only speculation. (As for "age categories" as per D&D...I'd link to the Writerium, but it seems to be down.)
- 3750 for adulthood? No wonder there are no Draenei drunks around, they're not of legal drinking age.
- But to serious matters now, has anyone considered the idea that "few now remember Argus" isn't really so weird? You live to a few millenia and live on a vast surplus of worlds. Think you can still make out which world was which after all that? I wouldn't, I can't even remember my neighbors of 3 years ago.
- Also, people have asked Metzen so many uestions about the lore, why hasn't ANYONE ever bothered asking him this?
- —The preceding unsigned comment was added by A058227 (talk · contr).
- Would Exarch Menelaous' text hint at a Draenei regular life span of 2,500 years? According to one of the comments on his wowhead page he says that the draenei spent 10 lifetimes fleeing from the Burning Legion. Delteri
There are draenei children orphans in Shattrath. What is the period of time between the fall of Shattrath to the orcs and its reestablishment upon the arrival of the Sha'tar naaru, and how long from the arrival of the naaru until present day? It seems likely those children were born only after the fall of Shattrath, and perhaps even after its rebuilding -- although perhaps they are also from the draenei camps in hiding after the fall. The fall seems at most 51 years ago, going by the official timeline and the Rise of the Horde. Cxj (talk) 21:56, February 10, 2010 (UTC)
Long life spans Edit
- Yes some mages can extend their lives with magic. The most prominent example being Aegwyn who lived to be over 800 years old. She of course is a very special case as she had the powers of the Tirisfallen at her disposal. I dont remeber where the issue is touched upon exactly but i seem to remember it stating it was very uncommon for mages to do this and even then it was nearly unheard of for a mage to see a second century. 09:47, June 2, 2010 (UTC)
High elves and Blood elvesEdit
There was a lot of retconned information when it came to the ages, so I went ahead and asked a GM. It also appears that WoWPedia is updated with the new ages, referencing "King Anasterian Sunstrider was notably ancient for a high elf at the time of his death, having lived for 3,000 years" and the Warcraft Encyclopedia that didn't make it over with the site's overhaul.
Aeriyth (talk) 21:41, October 27, 2014 (UTC)