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I didn't include most of the items from "The progression for a given (PvE) instance usually includes:" when I merged Progression into this article, because they really don't represent progression, in that most people don't care about how a guild is doing until they've either killed a boss or completed a raid instance. Getting loot, learning the strategies, and wiping are just a matter of the course of doing an instance. -- (talk) 10:38 AM PST 9 Nov 2006