Can someone clarify this for me? id never seen this idea untill i came on WoW wiki and it seems a little vauge

Sign your posts, please. The Fifth Classical Element (henceforth, FCE), given by Aristotle as aether, has, in recent years, typically been interpreted as something more spiritual, such as Heart, Soul, Spirit, etc. Golden's interpretation of the FCE, put forward in Lord of the Clans, is consistent with this more recent interpretation. In LotC, Golden describes Thrall's transformation from an apprentice to a Farseer as a series of conversation with Earth, Air/Wind, FIre, Water, and Wilds in turn. Nobundo recieved instruction in shamanism (as described on Blizzard's website) from Air/Wind directly. --Ragestorm (talk · contr) 16:37, 13 February 2007 (EST)

Its interesting to note that the chinese had the element of "metal" and "wood" as their fourth and fifth element and some other cultures had some other alternate ideas for the fifth element. These all apparently fall under the category of classical elements... Only bring it up since I came across a reference to chinese classical elements in one in a textbook I was reading.

That would explain the spirit of metal in pandaren philosophy considering that much of their culture is based on chinese tradition. Also like in chinese elements, earth is seperate from metal. Checking on Wikipedia it seems the rest of the spirits appear to be a combinatinof Wu Xing and Bagua/I ChingBaggins (talk) 17:24, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Earthen RingEdit

Are we certain that they're talking about the same Spirits? They sound extremely different from the ones Golden describes. -_Ragestorm (talk · contr) 15:11, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Yep its very specifically talking about the elemental spirits, that is the term given. Although I believe this implication is given in a few ingame quests for the earthen ring as well. Although by this definition it lumps the Twilight Hammer's elementals into the elemental spirit definition.
One also learns that each culture has its own terms for spirits and its own "spirits", for example pandaren split their geomancy elemental spirits into, "fire", "thunder", "earth", "water", and "wind".Baggins (talk) 08:55, 20 June 2008 (UTC)


anyone could tell me what is the difference between elemental spirit that helps shaman and elemental pawn of the old god?--Dainsleaf (talk) 17:58, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

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