Um, sorry to report rancid speculation, but I must say that a French thread on the RP WoW forum suggests, arguing, that Cho'gall is related to the five spooky children of Elwynn.--K ) (talk) 10:37, 28 April 2007 (EDT)
Who killed Cho'gall?
Originally it was Orgrim Doomhammer and the Blackrock clan, but in the novel Tides of Darkness it is different. In the novel, Rend & Maim and their Black Tooth Grin clan are sent after Gul'dan by Doomhammer. In that version of the story, Cho'gall dies fighting the Black Tooth Grin and its chieftains instead of the Blackrock clan and Orgrim. So which one do we call "canon"?--Illidan Rocks 00:13, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
Tides of Darkness. And I can't recall it ever being said that Orgrim killed Cho'gall.--Austin P 00:17, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
- It says right now that "Cho'gall died defending Gul'dan at the Tomb from Orgrim Doomhammer and his forces" right now, which is why I was not clear on what happened. I'll change it. It also says that Orgrim himself, along with the Blackrocks, chased Gul'dan to the Tomb and engaged him there, but I'll let somebody else worry about changing that.--Illidan Rocks 10:36, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
How could Orgrim Doomhammer be at the Isle of Sargares? He was out sieging Lordearon by the time that battle ended.--The last Alterac 07:37, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
- Certainly a small issue, RPG describes it as such;
"...the Twilight’s Hammer clan was slaughtered anyway by the forces Orgrim Doomhammer sent to destroy the traitor clans." Baggins (talk) 21:49, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
Looks like nobody killed Cho'gall. Ironic. --Timolas (talk) 17:08, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
Well we got his current location in the new comic preview with him being in C'Thuns chamber. Leviathon (talk) 07:56, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
- I think his death is described in ToD, but I don't think there was anyone of significance there. Come to think of it, it might have been one of those scenes where they have him charging at the enemy, but cut away for the next chapter... --Ragestorm (talk · contr) 14:33, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
Just to clarify, I checked and it says that he fell with two axes sticking out of his chest. Given his bulk, I could buy him surviving that, barely.--Austin P (talk) 16:43, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
Two names
I thought since one head is Cho and another Gall that it would mean his name is aka Cho and Gall? It is confusing. If someone yelled "hey Cho'Gall" would both heads reply? Do people ever say "I want to talk to Cho and not Gall"? LOL Rolandius 
(talk - contr) 03:13, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
- "aka" is short for "also known as". I have never once seen someone call him "Cho and Gall." --Ragestorm (talk · contr) 05:34, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
- Its kinda of mis interpreted, one head is called Cho and the other head is Gall, but that doesnt' mean the entire being is "Cho and Gall".Baggins (talk) 05:45, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
Nor the being known as Cho'gall was born from the fusion of two beings, but he was born like Cho'gall or one of the two head popped up through the use of dark magik. --N'Nanz (talk) 14:35, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
In anycase this is pretty much an non-editorial discussion...Baggins (talk) 17:36, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
- Well it is said that ogres with 2 heads usually are found arguing with each other. Rolandius
(talk - contr) 02:33, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
- If you've read Tides of Darkness, Rolandius, you'll notice that Cho and Gall got along just fine. Baggins, this counts as an editorial discussion because we're discussing something that was removed from the article. Admittedly, such complaints should usually be addressed to the usertalk of the one who did the removing, in this case, me.--Ragestorm (talk · contr) 13:54, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
Guess who's back
yeah guys, it's true, the guy is back leading the twilight's hammer.... Azahel (talk) 18:27, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
- I think it's the comic, if you read the preview pages in the official site in the last page you'll see an ogre, I think it must be him. However, I won't add it to the article until I confirm it's him. Benitoperezgaldos (talk) 19:18, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
- Well the orc does have two large scars across his chest.Baggins (talk) 19:20, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
- a little tease.... http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/misc/wccomic/issue16bg-4.jpg if is nor him, then is a twin, and also he leads the twilight hammer! *runs to the comic shop* Azahel (talk) 19:28, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
Not many other Ogres it could be considering we were told a 'horde hero who was thought dead for 20 years would be making a return in the comic' at that convention a couple weeks ago. Leviathon (talk) 19:31, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, now that I compare him[1] with this picture [2] they look identical. Benitoperezgaldos (talk) 19:32, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
The only difference is the right eye of the two-eyed head LOL. The older image has a scar over it, the newest hasn't. --N'Nanz (talk) 19:42, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
- Ok, it's him. At what point did the comic become WC1&2 NPC reunion?--Ragestorm (talk · contr) 19:46, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, I find it disgusting. It seems the "every lore character is invited" party... --N'Nanz (talk) 19:48, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
- To be fair it started with flash backs of Lothar, and baby King Wrynn.Baggins (talk) 19:49, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
Guess Metzen figured it was the best way to add in 'Horde heroes' even if they aren't exactly allied with the new Horde. Leviathon (talk) 19:51, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
- Better that than instantly turn them into raid bosses.Baggins (talk) 19:55, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
- which usually happens... well, it all looks terribly logic to me, all them are conected, including one will most likelly bring the rest as a bonus Azahel (talk) 20:04, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
Don't forget: "Lothar wants you!" Silly!!! --N'Nanz (talk) 00:25, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
Something tells me we may see Cho'gall in Ulduar. Leviathon (talk) 20:49, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
- Okay now that would be crazy! I was more hoping they would re-open AQ similar to Naxx, because I and many others never had the chance to play it during its glorious days. -- 22:07, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
- I don't get it? Why is he in Ahn'Qiraj? T igiarmpr C 17:38, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
- He's leading the Twilight's Hammer. The Twilight's Hammer likes the Old Gods. There's a dead Old God in Ahn'Qiraj. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 18:57, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
- I don't get it? Why is he in Ahn'Qiraj? T
Is he actually visible in game?
The Wiki and comic states that he is partying with C'thun in AQ. Is there a sprite of him anywhere in C'thun's chamber or in AQ at all in-game? Can any one check? I've looked around myself but haven't seen him. He might be invisible, or only visible with certain trinkets. (Like Ricole Nitche in Shat) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jennerfirst (talk · contr).
- I haven't been there but I had the impression he was not in-game or else the comic's info that he is alive would not really be "new". The closest thing I see connected to him is
[Collar of Cho'gall]. Rolandius (talk - contr) 06:47, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
- Well shoot, I've got nothing to see anything hidden yet. So I'll see if I can get any look around. I dunno, I doubt he's in the game as well Jennerfirst (talk) 02:28, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
Child of the Three Realms speculation...
"When the child of the three realms becomes as light, [various stuff now obviously about Cataclysm events]." Human, Orc, Draenei: my money's on Med'an. Now the question is, what does "as light" mean? Dead...? Tejon (talk) 15:48, March 22, 2010 (UTC)