I might just be extremely unperceptive, but how long have the crimson guardians been on either side of the unmarked grave here? --Zephead 14:01, 26 December 2006 (EST)

a photo of the area in question:


--Zephead 22:00, 26 December 2006 (EST)

I never noticed them before.... though it's been ages since I last visited the area... --Mikaka 22:02, 26 December 2006 (EST)


Okay if people cited speculation then it wouldn't be speculation anymore correct? It is speculation because it has strong evidence, but no citation.  Rolandius Paladin (talk - contr) 01:30, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

You can cite the evidence. Citation can be more than a page number. You can use {{ref game}} or <ref>Your case</ref>.--SWM2448 01:35, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
Well my evidence is that it is the only orc establishment in Duskwood that I can see.  Rolandius Paladin (talk - contr) 01:40, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
...Then say "Beggar's Haunt may have been the outpost used to attack the human town of Grand Hamlet, because it is the only orc establishment in Duskwood." Of course there are counter-examples like scale issues and that RTS 'battle content' is rarely included.--SWM2448 01:43, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
Well I guess I got half of it on there only.  Rolandius Paladin (talk - contr) 01:45, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
Half of it? I am not saying that is what you should have put, I was just helping you add to it.--SWM2448 01:51, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
Oh okay.  Rolandius Paladin (talk - contr) 01:54, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
... horde establishment? ... 2 forsaken members are hiding within an old abandoned alliance watch tower ... I wouldn't call it an "orc establishment". User:Coobra/Sig3 02:00, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
Okay well it is orc-aligned.  Rolandius Paladin (talk - contr) 02:08, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Read Rockard. User:Coobra/Sig3 02:20, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Forsaken-aligned in a human settlement style building in the present, doesn't mean it was orc-aligned horde settlement in the past...Baggins (talk) 02:46, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
Well Rockard seems a bit too far to attack Grand Hamlet but okay. The orcs would have to go from the Black Morass through the Borderlands and then through the forest of Elwynn and then finally get to Grand Hamlet.  Rolandius Paladin (talk - contr) 02:59, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
To win a war, you must be willing to travel. User:Coobra/Sig3 03:11, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
Okay but the Orcs have closer outposts than Rockard to Grand Hamlet.  Rolandius Paladin (talk - contr) 03:17, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

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