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I am removing the fictional link to guild "A Great Guild" inserted by user ItsMe!. Taking an interest in the page is brilliant, but if you wish to experiment with guild formatting and layout, please use the Show preview button rather than risking permanently defacing the realm page. Thanks. Flexibull 10:25, 1 May 2007 (EDT)

I'm thinking that /16 for Kara is superfluous; no one really is concerned with whether a guild completed 3/3 opera events or 1/3, when it comes to progression. Neither is anyone concerned whether the named rare beast bosses have been killed. Should Kara then be /11? Flexibull 23:50, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

I have a new layout which is easier to read and update, however it doesn't include pre-tbc bosses, do you still wish to go ahead, and is there anyway I can show you the layout before it's implemented? IKT 10:42, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Changed layout over and have archived the old stuff, good time to start fresh since a few guilds have taken the free trip to Nagrand I'll update the positions and progress tomorrow. If you have feedback please say! I am interested! IKT 18:18, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, very nice layout. Quite impressive! Maybe consider getting rid of the pre-tbc horde progression (or bring it up to the tbc standard). Nice to see the site still getting some tlc! Thanks for keeping it up to date, especially for us old fogeys wondering where people are up to these days ;) Flexibull 12:04, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

I think that the Server History section needs updating to comply with achievements from Burning Crusade. Though, I suppose it would just be a large section about Not Steamboat. ;) Regardless, information of some sort should be included. I don't have access to such information, though, maybe somebody else does?

Updated the Guild Progression (based on Darksphinx's list) and limited it to the top 10 of each faction. Also added a guild listing at the bottom, also put in the top 10 of each faction although it would be nice to have listing of all active guilds. There should be a cut-off somewhere though, to reduce clutter. Maybe only active raiding guilds with at least Kara 8/16 cleared? Differ 31 March 2008

Just adding a bit more information about server history and some famous things and people on Aman'thul. I will update further when I have more time, I do not have a lot of info for characters and events horde side so any additional information would help reduce the bias. Popeye 4 April 2008

Convicted Heroes is an Alliance Guild, not a Horde Guild. Kindly review your changes before publishing them. Thanks. I have made the necessary corrections. Also, there might be something wrong with the 'Ally' Guild Listing template as it shows up as blank for me (altho you can still hover and click the links). Differ 21 April 2008

My mistake, thanks for pointing that out Differ. Popeye 15:44, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Can anyone remember who received the server first hand of rag? It was paladin in Void.. I can't recall their name? Miza? Also, what other information do we want on this page? WoWWiki-Popeye 02:55, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Any info would be good. Trivia spices up the page IMHO. Oh i've updated progressions. REsilience are now #1 guild on AT with oceanic first kill of Eredar Twins. Differ 21 April 2008

Resilience was oceanic #2 I believe, see Lintelotiel 06:45, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Ah, my mistake then. But still, very nice work from the guys at Resilience. Kudos! Differ 5 May 2008

Added a recent news section. As always I am limited in my news information mostly from alliance side so please hordies update as events of note occur on your side! Also, evidence for 'transfers' can be seen here: ~ttp:// I find it interesting that WoWProgress has noted NSB is above Resil in rank I presume this somehow balances either the time taken to kill the previous bosses in SW or perhaps simply the number of SW boss kills total (not prog but also a farm status which would show a level of 'repeatability'). I'm not sure how WoWP works on that scale and I'm happy for Resil to remain server #1 as they killed twins first, just an interesting thing to note. Also note I'm tracking glaive drops via: ~ttp:// and ~ttp:// It doesn't track the glaives that dropped before 2.4 hit e.g. silantha/wanda/cans/aramis/etc. Let me know your thoughts and feel free to add any other news you hear of, I'll try and keep news posts ~weekly and neutral or at least reflecting the server's opinion rather than my own.WoWWiki-Popeye (talk) 02:57, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Also added a 'recruitment status' section for the top 10 guilds of both factions via information from guild websites and realm forums. I'll try and keep this updated semi-regularly when I update progression...WoWWiki-Popeye (talk) 04:00, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Added some interesting RSS feeds from This page is getting a little cluttered now, as I get time I will clean it up into a fashion resembling Ose's user page. Feedback is appreciated. WoWWiki-Popeye (talk) 04:32, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm planning on implementing a large change to the style of this page. My current model looks something like this testpage. Not everything is currently fully functional but you certainly get the idea of what changes are coming soon. If you dislike this potential change or have recommendation/requests please let me know asap. I will make this change in 5 days. WoWWiki-Popeye (talk) 05:55, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

First of all, you don't need to write AT in the tabs. That's just unnecesary. Secondly, I made {{tab}} and {{tabrow}} for easier making tabs. Check it out. I also suggest you put everything that is supposed to be on all the pages in a wrapping (like User:Ose/wrap). That way you wouldn't have to change every page when you change the layout. Oh, and it looks good too Smiley. CogHammer Ose talk/3721 07:37, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

It's a sad day for Aman'thul a lot of top guilds server xfered to Thaurissan. I've tried to update the most important parts will get to the rest as I have time.WoWWiki-Popeye (talk) 15:57, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

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