Sorcery
Do the all of the Dragon Aspects have actual sorcery/wizardry at their disposal? In Shadows and Light it had all the aspects have at least some extra magical ability, Malygos being the most, Deathwing second, and then after that there is no mention in any of the books. But since in the war in Silithus Anachronos (Nozdormu's heir) couldn't have held and sealed the gates purely with Time Magic, is it possible that all upper level dragons have magic power? Just wondering if that's something that could be added to this page or each individual page. jclipps (talk) 03:44, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
- Actually, they do have classes and magic, yet some admins don't want that on here calling it "game mechanics" or something. Rolandius (talk - contr) 03:54, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
- What do you mean by that? They don't want to include it because people might get the impression that it's only on there because of WoW or what? jclipps (talk) 03:58, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
- Hopefully an Admin can come clarify this then. The only sign of gameplay magic by a non-blue dragon is Anachronos in Silithus, but in S&L it clearly states they all have magic in one way or another. jclipps (talk) 04:52, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
- They do. All dragons have magical abilities, the blues being the most skilled. The difference is that the blues are inherently tied to arcane magic while the other flights just use it to their needs. Hence, Korialstrasz is one of the most powerful members of the Kirin Tor while being red, not blue, and why Deathwing was able to create the Demon Soul without being the Blue Aspect and enter the Emerald Dream without being the Green Aspect.
- As for the gameplay thing, the point is that game mechanics don't equal lore, and I fail to see how that has anything to do with Jclipp's question.--Ragestorm (talk · contr) 16:13, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
- So would you say that with these rarely mentioned magical abilities (at least in the case of Ysera, Nozdormu, and Alexstraza) that any Aspect is (in terms of arcane, sorcery, etc. and not their own assigned field of power) magically more powerful than any non-Aspect dragon, including consorts like Korialstraz or family members like Balacgos (Malygos' son)? jclipps (talk) 03:50, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
- When the lore refers to dragons as "creatures of magic" then, it is referring specifically to their dragonflight's speciality, not actual magic? I always had the opinion that all dragons have some magic, and some just had more than others (outside the blue flight). For example, I don't think Korialstraz worked up the level he is at now, I believe that he was born with magic, like all dragons, but just had more and fine tuned it over the years, which also means I think he had that power before he became a consort, and Alexstraza just picked him for other reasons. jclipps (talk) 01:19, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
Not only dragons?
Seeing this preview and reading this part:
- "It is here that the remaining aspects -- Alexstrasza, Ysera, Nozdormu, Kalecgos, and Thrall -- have gathered to empower the Dragon Soul -- Azeroth's last chance to stop the great behemoth."
Would this mean that it's possible that an Aspect can be something else than a dragon? --g0urra[T҂C] 06:17, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
- That might be possible... though I don't believe we know exactly how the power is transferred... the new earth aspect could be given to that new uncorrupted black dragon prince from badlands they keep talking about... least after Deathwing is killed. (Sssss/Slithered) 06:35, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
- It's more likely that it's just badly phrased; Twilight of the Aspects explicitly stated that Thrall is not and can never be an Aspect. They probably MEANT "the remaining aspects and Thrall." -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 06:36, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
- That might be possible... though I don't believe we know exactly how the power is transferred... the new earth aspect could be given to that new uncorrupted black dragon prince from badlands they keep talking about... least after Deathwing is killed. (Sssss/Slithered) 06:35, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
Deathwing
May I mark him as a former aspect or is it too soon? High Warlord MoneygruberTheGoblin (talk contribs) 15:16, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
Wait till the final cutscene is released--Ashbear160 (talk) 15:34, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
- He is now accessible in-game and hereby considered dead
- Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 16:23, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
Fate
The final cutscene is not clear:
- "it is the dawn of the age of mortals" no more eternals?
- are dragons aspects no longer titan-imbued?
Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 16:26, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
- I've looked all around for that cut scene, could you show me the link so I can add it to Deathwing's page? High Warlord MoneygruberTheGoblin (talk contribs) 16:31, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=bYVA0Hh6u3U
- The Dragon Aspects are not Dragon Aspects anymore, and just the leaders of their flights.--Ashbear160 (talk) 16:33, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you, and Alexstrasza seems to imply that the Aspects will die soon. High Warlord MoneygruberTheGoblin (talk contribs) 16:36, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
- So we should probably put a note that the position of Dragon Aspect no longer exists, because their duty was fulfilled or something like that?--Ashbear160 (talk) 16:49, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
- I'd say so, we should add Thrall as well since he was Earth-Warder. High Warlord MoneygruberTheGoblin (talk contribs) 16:54, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
- Yeah probably--Ashbear160 (talk) 17:06, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
Well, I feel bad for Kalecgos... he just became an aspect, only to have it taken away in a short amount of time. (Sssss/Slithered) 21:35, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
Thrall
While he filled in for the Earth Warder, there's nothing to suggest he ever became a Dragon Aspect, even for that brief moment. Twilight of the Aspects even says he could never be a Dragon Aspect, and Charge of the Aspects seems to support this, even when he's asked to help them out. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 21:49, 1 December 2011 (UTC)