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'''Guild achievements''' are a combination of general, pvp and raid achievements earned through efforts of the guild as a whole. You will typically need 80% of a dungeon (4/5) or raid (8/10, 20/25) to be from the same guild in order to gain credit for events, with the exception of 100% for arena teams (2/2, 3/3, 5/5) and 25% for 40-man raids (10/40).<ref>[http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?sid=2000&topicId=26560501163&pageNo=1#5 WoW Cataclysm Beta (English) Forums: Guild achievements for classic dungeons/raids, post 5 (blue post by Mumper), 09/09/2010]</ref>
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{{Archives1|October 25, 2009}}
 
   
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Guild achievements reward [[guild achievement point]]s instead of regular [[achievement point]]s.
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== Playable Race ==
 
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Wow.com has just reviled Worgen (along with Goblins) to be a playable race in the next expansion (WoW: Cataclysm). I would add this information myself, but I don't know if this information is vetted yet. Plus, I don't want to screw anything up.
 
   
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== General ==
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http://www.wow.com/2009/08/10/cataclysm-races-leaked/
 
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{| class="darktable sortable zebra plainlinks" align=center
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! Title !! class=unsortable | Description !! Reward
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| [[Guild Level 5]] || Reach guild level 5. || {{cost|ach=10}} and Reward:<br />[[Guild Vault Voucher (7th Slot)]]
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| [[Guild Level 10]] || Reach guild level 10. || {{cost|ach=10}} and Reward:<br /> Heirloom Cloaks
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| [[Guild Level 15]] || Reach guild level 15. || {{cost|ach=10}} and Reward:<br /> [[Wrap of Unity]]
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| [[Guild Level 20]] || Reach guild level 20. || {{cost|ach=10}} and <br />Heirloom Helms
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| [[Guild Level 25 (Alliance)]] || Reach guild level 25. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Guild Level 25 (Horde)]] || Reach guild level 25. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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|-
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| [[Everyone Needs A Logo]] || Create and purchase a guild crest. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[It All Adds Up]] || Spend 50,000 gold on guildmember repairs. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[It All Really Adds Up]] || Spend 100,000 gold on guildmember repairs. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Profit Sharing]] || Loot 100,000 gold from creatures. || {{cost|ach=10}}& Reward:<br />[[Guild Herald]]
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| [[Saving For A Rainy Day]] || Loot 200,000 gold from creatures. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Time To Open A Savings Account]] || Loot ? gold from creatures. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Extended Storage]] || Purchase the [[Guild Vault Voucher (7th Slot)]] || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Guild Vault (achievement)]] || Purchase all 8 guild bank tabs. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Critter Kill Squad]] || Kill 50,000 critters. || {{cost|ach=10}} and Reward:<br />[[Armadillo Pup]]
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| [[Now That's an Achievement]] || Earn 5000 guild achievement points. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[A Class Act]] || Reach level 85 on each of the classes listed below. || {{cost|ach=10}} and Reward:<br />[[Shroud of Cooperation]]
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| [[Stay Classy (Alliance)]] || Complete the classy achievements listed below. || {{cost|ach=10}} and Reward:<br />[[Guild Vault Voucher (8th Slot)]]
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| [[Classy Humans]] || Reach level 85 of each of the Human classes listed below. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Classy Night Elves]] || Reach level 85 of each of the Night Elf classes listed below. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Classy Gnomes]] || Reach level 85 of each of the Gnome classes listed below. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Classy Dwarves]] || Reach level 85 of each of the Dwarven classes listed below. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Classy Draenei]] || Reach level 85 of each of the Draenei classes listed below. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Classy Worgen]] || Reach level 85 of each of the Worgen classes listed below. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Stay Classy (Horde)]] || Complete the classy achievements listed below. || {{cost|ach=10}} and Reward:<br />[[Guild Vault Voucher (8th Slot)]]
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| [[Classy Orcs]] || Reach level 85 of each of the Orc classes listed below. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Classy Tauren]] || Reach level 85 of each of the Tauren classes listed below. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Classy Trolls]] || Reach level 85 of each of the Troll classes listed below. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Classy Undead]] || Reach level 85 of each of the Undead classes listed below. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Classy Blood Elves]] || Reach level 85 of each of the Blood Elf classes listed below. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Classy Goblins]] || Reach level 85 of each of the Goblin classes listed below. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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|}
   
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== Quests ==
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<small>ā€”The preceding [[Wowpedia:Signature|unsigned]] comment was added by {{User|Halgy}}.</small>
 
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| [[That's a Lot of Travel Time]] || Complete 25,000 quests. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[That's a Lot of Quest Text]] || Complete 50,000 quests. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[That's a Lot of Turn In's]] || Complete 100,000 quests. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[A Daily Routine]] || Complete 25,000 daily quests. || {{cost|ach=10}} and Reward:<br />{{alliance}}[[Battle Standard of Coordination (Alliance)]]<br />{{horde}}[[Battle Standard of Coordination (Horde)]]
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| [[Daily Driver]] || Complete 30,000 daily quests. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[The Daily Grind]] || Complete 75,000 daily quests. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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|}
   
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== Player vs. Player ==
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:Will not be added unless its been made official. [[WP:DNP]]. {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 20:31, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
 
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{| class="darktable sortable zebra plainlinks" align=center
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| [[Kill Squad]] || Get 100,000 honorable kills. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Guild Gankers]] || Get 250,000 honorable kills. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Creepjackers]] || Get 1,000,000 honorable kills. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Horde Slayer]] || Complete the slayer achievements listed below. || {{cost|ach=10}} & Reward: <br />[[Guild Page]]
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| [[Orc Slayer]] || Get an honorable kill on each of the level 85 Orc classes listed below. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Tauren Slayer]] || Get an honorable kill on each of the level 85 Tauren classes listed below. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Undead Slayer]] || Get an honorable kill on each of the level 85 Undead classes listed below. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Troll Slayer]] || Get an honorable kill on each of the level 85 Troll classes listed below. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Blood Elf Slayer]] || Get an honorable kill on each of the level 85 Blood Elf classes listed below. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Goblin Slayer]] || Get an honorable kill on each of the level 85 Goblin classes listed below. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Alliance Slayer]] || Complete the slayer achievements listed below. || {{cost|ach=10}} & Reward: <br />[[Guild Page]]
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| [[Human Slayer]] || Get an honorable kill on each of the level 85 Human classes listed below. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Dwarf Slayer]] || Get an honorable kill on each of the level 85 Dwarf classes listed below. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Gnome Slayer]] || Get an honorable kill on each of the level 85 Gnome classes listed below. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Night Elf Slayer]] || Get an honorable kill on each of the level 85 Night Elf classes listed below. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Draenei Slayer]] || Get an honorable kill on each of the level 85 Draenei classes listed below. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Worgen Slayer]] || Get an honorable kill on each of the level 85 Worgen classes listed below. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[City Attacker (Alliance)]] || Kill 2500 enemy players in any Horde home city. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[City Attacker (Horde)]] || Kill 2500 enemy players in any Alliance home city. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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|}
   
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=== Battlegrounds ===
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::That article is ridiculous. It only gives two "sources", one of which doesn't even mention races - it's just blatant theorizing. Remember, blogging != journalism. {{User:Howbizr/sign}} 9:44 PM, 10 Aug 2009 (EDT)
 
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:::I agree with that statement, and if blogging ever does replace, real, actual journalism, we are all screwed. That article is ridiculous anyways. I want new races in the expansion, but I'm not getting my hopes up, nor do I think the articles should be changed until Blizzard themselves make an announcement.[[User:Vulpes Wolf|Vulpes Wolf]] ([[User talk:Vulpes Wolf|talk]])
 
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! Title !! class=unsortable | Description !! Reward
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| [[Call of Duty]] || Win a rated battleground while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Now That's Teamwork]] || Win 1000 Rated Battlegrounds while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Stick Together Team]] || Win 2000 Rated Battlegrounds while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[A Team Effort]] || Win 5000 Rated Battlegrounds while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[5-Cap Crew]] || Win 100 rated Arathi Basin matches while controlling all 5 flags in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[The Perfect Guild Storm]] || Win 100 rated Eye of the Storm matches with a score of 1600 to 0 while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Guild Gulch]] || Win 100 rated Warsong Gulch matches with a score of 3 to 0 while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[The Peak of Perfection]] || Win 100 rated Twin Peaks matches with a score of 3 to 0 without dying while also getting at least 1 killing blow while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Guild Gankin' in Gilneas]] || Win 100 rated The Battle For Gilneas matches with a score of 2000 to 0 while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=20}}
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| [[Storming the Beach]] || In a rated Strand of the Ancients match, capture the Titan Relic in under four minutes 100 times while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=20}}
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| [[Guild Commanders]] || Earn the Commander title on all of the classes below. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Guild Marshals]] || Earn the Marshal title on all of the classes below. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Guild Field Marshals]] || Earn the Field Marshal title on all of the classes below. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Guild Grand Marshals]] || Earn the Grand Marshal title on all of the classes below. || {{cost|ach=15}}
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| [[Guild Champions]] || Earn the Champion title on all of the classes below. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Guild Generals]] || Earn the General title on all of the classes below. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Guild Warlords]] || Earn the Warlord title on all of the classes below. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Guild High Warlords]] || Earn the High Warlord title on all of the classes below. || {{cost|ach=15}}
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| [[Guild Battlemasters]] || Earn the Battlemaster title on all of the classes below. || {{cost|ach=20}}
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|}
   
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=== Arena ===
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The theory totally makes sense. The files, the art, all leads to it. But even if one (like me) loves digging files and etc, we still have to wait 7 days for this information to be confirmed... Who knows if Blizz don't wanted to play with us making false tips. [[User:Azahel|Azahel]] ([[User talk:Azahel|talk]]) 19:27, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
 
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{| class="darktable sortable zebra plainlinks" align=center
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| [[Call of Battle]] || Win a ranked arena match while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[The Buddy System]] || Win 500 ranked arena matches while in a guild group.
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| [[Killing With Friends]]|| Win 1000 ranked arena matches while in a guild group.
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| [[Are You Not Entertained?]] || Earn a 2200 rating in the arena with a team composed entirely of guild members. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Guild Challengers]] || Earn the Challenger title on all of the classes below. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Guild Rivals]] || Earn the Rival title on all of the classes below. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Guild Duelists]] || Earn the Duelist title on all of the classes below. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Guild Gladiators]] || Earn the Gladiator title on all of the classes below. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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|}
   
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== Dungeons & Raids ==
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:Red herrings FTW.--{{User:Sandwichman2448/Sig}} 20:46, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
 
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| [[Guild Classic Dungeonmaster]] || Complete the classic dungeon achievements listed below in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Guild Classic Raider]] || Complete the classic raid achievements listed below while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=20}}
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| [[Guild Outland Dungeon Hero]] || Complete the heroic Burning Crusade dungeon achievements listed below while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=20}}
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| [[Guild Outland Raider]] || Complete the Burning Crusade raid achievements listed below while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=20}}
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| [[Guild Northrend Dungeon Hero]] || Complete the heroic Northrend dungeon achievements listed below while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=20}}
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| [[Glory of the Lich King Raider]] || Complete the Northrend raid achievements listed below while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=20}}
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| [[Guild Cataclysm Dungeon Hero]] || Complete the heroic Cataclysm dungeon achievements listed below while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=10}} and Reward:<br />{{alliance}}:[[Standard of Unity (Alliance)]]<br />{{horde}}:[[Standard of Unity (Horde)]]
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| [[Guild Glory of the Cataclysm Raider]] || Complete the Cataclysm raid achievements listed below while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=10}} and Reward:<br />[[Reins of the Dark Phoenix]]
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| [[We Are Legendary]] || Obtain one of the legendary weapons listed below. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[A Legendary Collection]] || Obtain three of the legendary weapons listed below. || {{cost|ach=15}}
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| [[The Ultimate Collection]] || Obtain all of the legendary weapons listed below. || {{cost|ach=25}}
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| [[Sulfuras, Hand of Ragnaros - Guild Edition]] || Wielder of Sulfuras, Hand of Ragnaros. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker - Guild Edition]] || Wielder of Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Warglaives of Azzinoth - Guild Edition]] || Wielder of a set of Warglaives of Azzinoth || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Thori'dal, the Stars' Fury - Guild Edition]] || Wielder of Thori'dal, the Stars' Fury || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Val'anyr, Hammer of Ancient Kings - Guild Edition]] || Wielder of Val'anyr, Hammer of Ancient Kings || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Shadowmourne - Guild Edition]] || Wielder of Shadowmourne || {{cost|ach=10}}
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=== Classic ===
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::I think it's true, all the same. Can't wait to see who's right!! {{User:Howbizr/sign}} 2:56 PM, 15 Aug 2009 (EDT)
 
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| [[Ragefire Chasm Guild Run]] || Defeat Taragaman the Hungerer while in a guile group. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Deadmines Guild Run]] || Defeat "Captain" Cookie while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Wailing Caverns Guild Run]] || Defeat Mutanus the Devourer while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Shadowfang Keep Guild Run]] || Defeat Lord Godfrey while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Blackfathom Deeps Guild Run]] || Defeat Aku'mai while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Stormwind Stockade Guild Run]] || Defeat Hogger while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Razorfen Kraul Guild Run]] || Defeat Charlga Razorflank while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Gnomeregan Guild Run]] || Defeat Mekgineer Thermaplugg while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Razorfen Downs Guild Run]] || Defeat Amnennar the Coldbringer while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Scarlet Monastery Guild Run]] || Defeat the Scarlet Crusade within the Scarlet Monastery while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Uldaman Guild Run]] || Defeat Archaedas while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Zul'Farrak Guild Run]] || Defeat Chief Ukorz Sandscalp while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Maraudon Guild Run]] || Defeat Princess Theradras while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Sunken Temple Guild Run]] || Defeat Shade of Eranikus while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Blackrock Depths Guild Run]] || Defeat Emperor Dagran Thaurissan while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Lower Blackrock Spire Guild Run]] || Defeat Overlord Wyrmthalak while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[King of Dire Maul Guild Run]] || Defeat each wing of Dire Maul while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Scholomance Guild Run]] || Defeat the leaders of Scholomance while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Stratholme Guild Run]] || Defeat the evil masterminds inhabiting Stratholme while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Molten Core Guild Run]] || Defeat Ragnaros while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Blackwing Lair Guild Run]] || Defeat Nefarian while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Temple of Ahn'Qiraj Guild Run]] || Defeat C'Thun while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Ruins of Ahn'Qiraj Guild Run]] || Defeat Ossirian the Unscarred while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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=== The Burning Crusade ===
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:::It's true, confirmed at Blizzcon around 12:30 PST. Bwahahaha, Naysayers! [[User:Sedurut|Sedurut]] ([[User talk:Sedurut|talk]]) 02:11, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
 
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| [[Heroic: Hellfire Ramparts Guild Run]] || Defeat the leaders of Hellfire Ramparts on Heroic Difficulty while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Heroic: The Blood Furnace Guild Run]] || Defeat Keli'dan the Breaker on Heroic Difficulty while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Heroic: The Slave Pens Guild Run]] || Defeat Quagmirran on Heroic Difficulty while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Heroic: Underbog Guild Run]] || Defeat The Black Stalker on Heroic Difficulty while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Heroic: Mana-Tombs Guild Run]] || Defeat Nexus-Prince Shaffar on Heroic Difficulty while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Heroic: Auchenai Crypts Guild Run]] || Defeat Exarch Maladaar on Heroic Difficulty while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Heroic: The Escape From Durnholde Guild Run]] || Defeat Epoch Hunter on Heroic Difficulty while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Heroic: Sethekk Halls Guild Run]] || Defeat Talon King Ikiss on Heroic Difficulty while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Heroic: Shadow Labyrinth Guild Run]] || Defeat Murmur on Heroic Difficulty while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Heroic: Opening of the Dark Portal Guild Run]] || Defeat Aeonus on Heroic Difficulty while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Heroic: The Steamvault Guild Run]] || Defeat Warlord Kalithresh on Heroic Difficulty while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Heroic: The Shattered Halls Guild Run]] || Defeat Warchief Kargath Bladefist on Heroic Difficulty while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Heroic: The Mechanar Guild Guild Run]] || Defeat Pathaleon the Calculator on Heroic Difficulty while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Heroic: The Botanica Guild Run]] || Defeat Warp Splinter on Heroic Difficulty while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Heroic: The Arcatraz Guild Run]] || Defeat Harbinger Skyriss on Heroic Difficulty while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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|-
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| [[Heroic: Magister's Terrace Guild Run]] || Defeat Kael'thas Sunstrider on Heroic Difficulty while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Karazhan Guild Run]] || Defeat Prince Malchezaar in Karazhan while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Zul'Aman Guild Run]] || Defeat Zul'jin in Zul'Aman while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Magtheridon's Lair Guild Run]] || Defeat Magtheridon in Magtheridon's Lair while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Serpentshrine Cavern Guild Run]] || Defeat Lady Vashj in Serpentshrine Cavern while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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|-
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| [[Tempest Keep Guild Run]] || Defeat Kael'thas Sunstrider in Tempest Keep while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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|-
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| [[The Battle for Mount Hyjal Guild Run]] || Defeat Archimonde in The Battle for Mount Hyjal while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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|-
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| [[The Black Temple Guild Run]] || Defeat Illidan Stormrage in The Black Temple while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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|-
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| [[Sunwell Plateau Guild Run]] || Defeat Kil'jaeden in Sunwell Plateau while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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|}
   
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=== Lich King Dungeon ===
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| [[Heroic: Utgarde Keep Guild Run]] || Defeat the Utgarde Keep bosses on Heroic Difficulty. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Heroic: The Nexus Guild Run]] || Defeat The Nexus bosses on Heroic Difficulty. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Heroic: Azjol-Nerub Guild Run]] || Defeat the Azjol-Nerub bosses on Heroic Difficulty. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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|-
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| [[Heroic: Ahn'kahet: The Old Kingdom Guild Run]] || Defeat the Ahn'kahet: The Old Kingdom bosses on Heroic Difficulty. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Heroic: Drak'Tharon Keep Guild Run]] || Defeat the Drak'Tharon Keep bosses on Heroic Difficulty. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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|-
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| [[Heroic: The Violet Hold Guild Run]] || Defeat Cyanigosa in The Violet Hold on Heroic Difficulty. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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|-
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| [[Heroic: Gundrak Guild Run]] || Defeat the Gundrak bosses on Heroic Difficulty. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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|-
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| [[Heroic: Halls of Stone Guild Run]] || Defeat the boss encounters in the Halls of Stone on Heroic Difficulty. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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|-
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| [[Heroic: Halls of Lightning Guild Run]] || Defeat the Halls of Lightning bosses on Heroic Difficulty. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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|-
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| [[Heroic: The Oculus Guild Run]] || Defeat the Caverns of Time: Stratholme bosses on Heroic Difficulty. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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|-
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| [[Heroic: The Culling of Stratholme Guild Run]] || Defeat The Oculus bosses on Heroic Difficulty. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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|-
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| [[Heroic: Utgarde Pinnacle Guild Run]] || Defeat the Utgarde Pinnacle bosses on Heroic Difficulty. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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|-
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| [[Heroic: Trial of the Champion Guild Run]] || Defeat the bosses in the Trial of the Champion on Heroic Difficulty. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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|-
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| [[Heroic: The Forge of Souls Guild Run]] || Defeat the bosses in The Forge of Souls on Heroic Difficulty. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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|-
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| [[Heroic: The Pit of Saron Guild Guild Run]] || Defeat the bosses in The Pit of Saron on Heroic Difficulty. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Heroic: The Halls of Reflection Guild Run]] || Defeat the bosses in The Halls of Reflection on Heroic Difficulty. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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|}
   
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== Racial Traits ==
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=== Lich King Raid ===
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| [[The Twilight Zone - Guild Edition]] || With all three Twilight Drakes still alive, engage and defeat Sartharion the Onyx Guardian while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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|-
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| [[Alone in the Darkness - Guild Edition]] || Defeat Yogg-Saron without the assistance of any Keepers while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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|-
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| [[Just Can't Get Enough - Guild Edition]] || Defeat Kel'Thuzad in Naxxramas while killing at least 18 abominations in his chamber while in a group group. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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|-
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| [[You Don't Have an Eternity - Guild Edition]] || Defeat Malygos in 6 minutes or less while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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|-
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| [[He Feeds On Your Tears - Guild Edition]] || Defeat Algalon the Observer while in a guild group without any raid member dying to Algalon at any point during that raid lockout period. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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|-
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| [[Call of the Crusade - Guild Edition]] || Defeat every boss in the Trial of the Crusader while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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|-
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| [[The Twilight Destroyer - Guild Edition]] || Defeat Halion in The Ruby Sanctum while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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|-
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| [[The Frozen Throne - Guild Edition]] || Defeat the Lich King in Icecrown Citadel while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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|}
   
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=== Cataclysm Dungeons ===
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Am I the only person who thinks the Worgens have overpowered racials? 70% Speed increase for 6 seconds is OP when used in conjunction with Sprint, Blink, Aspect of the Cheetah, etc. It'd be fine if it triggered the cooldown on all similar abilities, but I doubt it will. Skinning faster without a knife seems pretty unfair as well, since you could easily steal someone's skinning mob when they started before you. Abberation would cause a '''LOT''' of Horde Warlocks to become very angry in PVP. As for two forms, that seems to break their lore, don't you agree? They're supposedly '''cursed''', which should mean that they're stuck as a Worgen forever. But no, they can transform into Humans whenever they please.
 
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| [[Heroic: Blackrock Caverns Guild Run]] || Defeat Ascendant Lord Obsidius on Heroic Difficulty. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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|-
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| [[Heroic: Throne of the Tides Guild Run]] || Defeat Ozumat in Throne of the Tides on Heroic Difficulty. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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|-
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| [[Heroic: The Stonecore Guild Run]] || Defeat High Priestess Azil in the Stonecore on Heroic Difficulty. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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|-
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| [[Heroic: The Vortex Pinnacle Guild Run]] || Defeat Grand Vizier Ertan in the Vortex Pinnacle on Heroic Difficulty. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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|-
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| [[Heroic: Grim Batol Guild Run]] || Defeat Erudax in Grim Batol on Heroic Difficulty. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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|-
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| [[Heroic: Halls of Origination Guild Run]] || Defeat Rajh in Halls of Origination on Heroic Difficulty. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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|-
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| [[Heroic: Lost City of the Tol'vir Guild Run]] || Defeat Siamat, Lord of the South Wind in the Lost City of the Tol'vir on Heroic Difficulty. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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|-
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| [[Heroic: Deadmines Guild Run]] || Defeat "Captain" Cookie in Deadmines on Heroic Difficulty. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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|-
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| [[Heroic: Shadowfang Keep Guild Run]] || Defeat Lord Godfrey in Shadowfang Keep on Heroic Difficulty. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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|-
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|}
   
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=== Cataclysm Raid ===
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Discuss. [[User:Navalu|Navalu]] ([[User talk:Navalu|talk]]) 05:14, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
 
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|-
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| [[Blackwing Descent Guild Run]] || Defeat the bosses in Blackwing Descent while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Throne of the Four Winds Guild Run]] || Defeat the bosses in Throne of the Four Winds while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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|-
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| [[The Bastion of Twilight Guild Run]] || Defeat the bosses in Throne of the Four Winds while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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|-
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| [[Baradin Hold Guild Run]] || Defeat Argaloth in Baradin Hold while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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|-
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| [[Heroic: Cho'gall Guild Run]] || Defeat Cho'gall in the Bastion of Twilight on Heroic difficulty while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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|-
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| [[Heroic: Nefarian Guild Run]] || Defeat Nefarian in Blackwing Descent on Heroic difficulty while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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|-
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| [[Heroic: Al'Akir Guild Run]] || Defeat Al'Akir in the Throne of the Four Winds on Heroic difficulty while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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|-
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| [[Heroic: Sinestra Guild Run]] || Defeat Sinestra in the Bastion of Twilight on Heroic difficulty while in a guild group. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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|}
   
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== Professions ==
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:Um, since when does any worgen in the game stay in one form? 85% of them use either appear as human or worgen. Highly doubt the speed increase racial (also, btw a 3min cd) will stack with the other speed increasing abilities. Skinning is already what... 1.5 seconds, so if stealing skins is an issue, don't loot the entire body and wait till they walk off, so they don't need a knife... get a gnomish army knife, then you won't need half the tools in your bags either. And no, don't discuss, you want to complain about the racials, take it the official WoW forums. {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 05:25, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
 
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::First off, you have to remember that this is still pre-Alpha. Absolutely nothing is set in stone yet; lots of things can and will change. Hell, just think of how much changed in BC and WotLK between announcement and release. Secondly, they've said that they're going to be updating all of the other racials as well, which should balance it out a bit. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 05:33, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
 
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! Title !! class=unsortable | Description !! Reward
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|-
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| [[Working as a Team]] || Obtain 525 skill points in all professions and secondary professions. || {{cost|ach=10}} & Reward:<br />{{alliance}}:[[Banner of Cooperation (Alliance)]]<br />{{horde}}:[[Banner of Cooperation (Horde)]]
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|-
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| [[Skinnin' For A Livin']] || Skin 250,000 corpses. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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|-
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| [[Mix Master]] || Craft 1,000 Cataclysm flasks. || {{cost|ach=10}} & Reward: <br />[[Recipe: Cauldron of Battle]]
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|-
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| [[Better Leveling Through Chemistry]] || Create 3,000 Cataclysm flasks. || {{cost|ach=10}} & Reward: <br />[[Recipe: Big Cauldron of Battle]]
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|-
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| [[The Pen is Mightier]] || Create 25,000 glyphs. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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|-
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| [[Dust, Dust and more Dust!]] || Disenchant 100,000 items. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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|-
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| [[Dinner Party]] || Place 5,000 Feasts. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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|-
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| [[Set the Oven to "Cataclysmic"]] || Cook 5,000 Cataclysm cooking recipes. || {{cost|ach=10}} & Reward:<br /> [[Recipe: Broiled Dragon Feast]]
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|-
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| [[Time To Open A Restaurant]] || Cook 10,000 Cataclysm cooking recipes. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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|-
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| [[Bushels and Bushels]] || Gather 100,000 herbs. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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|-
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| [[Mighty Miners]] || Mine 100,000 ore and rocks. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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|-
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| [[Making History]] || Complete 500 Archaeology projects. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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|-
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| [[Gemcrafter Extrodinare]] || Cut 25,000 gems. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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|-
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| [[Fishing Pool Pro]] || Catch 10,000 fish from Northrend fishing pools. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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|-
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| [[Master Crafter]] || Craft 1,500 Epic items with an item level of at least 359. || {{cost|ach=10}} & Reward:<br />{{alliance}}:[[Cloak of Coordination (Alliance)]]<br />{{horde}}:[[Cloak of Coordination (Horde)]]
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|-
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| [[That's A Lot of Bait]] || Catch 10,000 fish from fishing pools. || {{cost|ach=10}} & Reward:<br />[[Recipe: Seafood Magnifique Feast]]
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|-
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| [[We're Gonna Need A Bigger Boat]] || Catch 50,000 fish from fishing pools. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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|-
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| [[Like Shooting Fish In A Barrel]] || Catch 100,000 fish from fishing pools.|| {{cost|ach=10}}
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|-
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|}
   
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== Female worgen model ==
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== Reputation ==
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This image was added to the article (just removed by me). To be honest it looks like a worgen female mask, placed over a female tauren's head, with an old worgen's body. Frankenstein's creation, as it were. {{User:Kirkburn/Sig5}} 12:48, September 24, 2009 (UTC)
 
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! Title !! class=unsortable | Description !! Reward
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| [[Diplomacy (achievement)]] || Raise 15 reputations to Exalted. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Ambassadors]] || Raise 25 reputations to Exalted. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[United Nations]] || Raise 55 reputations to Exalted. || {{cost|ach=15}} & Reward:<br />[[Dark Phoenix Hatchling]]
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|-
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| [[Dungeon Diplomat]] || Earn exalted with the dungeon reputations listed below. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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| [[Raid Representation]] || Earn exalted with the raid reputations listed below. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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|-
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| [[Classic Battles]] || Earn exalted reputation with the classic battlegrounds listed below. || {{cost|ach=10}}
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|}
   
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== Guild Feats of Strength ==
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: I'll have to agree with you Kirkburn, cause i have seen a picture like that before, using the same skeleton (or something very close), but a custom head. [http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/3900/theworgenuv6.jpg 1] & [http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/7171/worgengirlrk1.jpg 2]
 
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: [[User:Aedror42|Aedror42]] ([[User talk:Aedror42|talk]]) 14:33, September 24, 2009 (UTC)
 
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Forsaken body, human arms, worgen (male) hands and feet, worgen (female) head. The head is disproportional too. --[[User:N&#39;Nanz|N&#39;Nanz]] ([[User talk:N&#39;Nanz|talk]]) 14:39, September 24, 2009 (UTC)
 
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! Title !! class=unsortable | Description !! Reward
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|-
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| [[Realm First! Working as a Team]] || First guild on the realm to obtain 525 skill points in all professions and secondary professions.
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| [[Realm First! Nefarian]] || First guild on the realm to defeat Nefarian in Blackwing Descent on Heroic difficulty while in a guild group.
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| [[Realm First! Al'Akir]] || First guild on the realm to defeat Al'Akir in the Throne of the Four Winds on Heroic difficulty while in a guild group.
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| [[Realm First! Sinestra]] || First guild on the realm to defeat Sinestra in the Bastion of Twilight on Heroic difficulty while in a guild group.
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| [[Realm First! Guild Level 25]] || First guild on the realm to reach guild level 25.
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|}
   
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== References ==
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:Agreeing with Kirk - please leave it out of the article. {{User:Howbizr/sign}} 3:28 PM, 24 Sep 2009 (EDT)
 
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:::It's fake. The creator likes worgen and has made fake playable-looking worgen in the past. She whipped it up in an hour to confuse people yet again. [[User:RutƩa|RutƩa]] ([[User talk:RutƩa|talk]]) 22:59, September 25, 2009 (UTC)
 
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[[Category:World of Warcraft achievements|Guild achievements]]
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[[es:Logros de hermandad]]
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I've replaced the incorrect Worgen model with the official Work-In-Progress image released by Blizzard. I must say, I'm happy with the direction they took the design. I hope to see some nice hairstyles, and I'm just dying to know how their druid shapeshift forms will look. [[User:Kuroth|Kuroth]] ([[User talk:Kuroth|talk]]) 16:24, May 31, 2010 (UTC)
 
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:DON'T. This whole topic was discussing that image you replaced. {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 17:19, May 31, 2010 (UTC)
 
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== The old rumor ==
 
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Does anyone still have that old rumor, back from 2006, about playable worgen? It was made up before the revamped draenei were introduced and people were wondering what race the Alliance would get. The creator made it only for fun, but it introduced the idea of the humans of Gilneas behind the Greymane Wall becoming infected by the worgen curse and losing their minds. This rumor caught on like wildfire and eventually, it seems to have actually come true. I'd like to see how this old rumor compares to what we know of them now. [[User:RutƩa|RutƩa]] ([[User talk:RutƩa|talk]]) 23:05, September 25, 2009 (UTC)
 
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:[http://wow.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=21&mid=119012268058738816&page=3&howmany=50#m1251302069155658271 Here] is a copy of the post, reposted by the original author.--{{User:Sandwichman2448/Sig}} 23:14, September 25, 2009 (UTC)
 
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(removed own comment) [[User:Oakpack4|Oakpack4]] ([[User talk:Oakpack4|talk]]) 00:17, November 24, 2009 (UTC)
 
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== Pronounciation? ==
 
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Hey, anyone know how this is pronounced?
 
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No need for all the upside-down letters...just something like wor-jen or wor-gen... --{{User:Toran Wildpaw of the Frenzyheart/Sig}} 14:08, February 28, 2010 (UTC)
 
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:It is spoken in the ''Cataclysm'' trailer...--{{User:Sandwichman2448/Sig}} 16:53, February 28, 2010 (UTC)
 
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== In-game models? ==
 
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Under the Description section the caption to the image Cataclysm Worgen.png says "In-game model of the new playable Worgen race." Where is the model located in the MPQ files? I want to take some screenshots with different armor in Model Viewer. [[User:SandersP|SandersP]] ([[User talk:SandersP|talk]]) 18:38, March 20, 2010 (UTC)
 
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: The new worgen model is not yet in-game, the picture is form the official site i think. [[User:Aedror42|Aedror42]] ([[User talk:Aedror42|talk]]) 17:05, March 20, 2010 (UTC)
 
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:: "[The new] female Worgen [models] don't exist in the game, and the the textures are way more detailed than most current in-game models." Source: http://esc-hatch.blogspot.com The males models are in the data files already apparently, but idk where to find them. [[User:SandersP|SandersP]] ([[User talk:SandersP|talk]]) 18:38, March 20, 2010 (UTC)
 
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:: i'm 100% sure that the new worgen amle models arent in the datafiles yet, but i think that the article is refering to the old worgen amle models located in under Creature->Worgen->Worgen.m2 in the [[WoW Model Viewer]]. [[User:Aedror42|Aedror42]] ([[User talk:Aedror42|talk]]) 19:09, March 20, 2010 (UTC)
 
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::: Dang.. I really wanted to see them in 3D [[User:SandersP|SandersP]] ([[User talk:SandersP|talk]]) 19:20, March 20, 2010 (UTC)
 
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::::Yeah me too, but i guess we'll have to wait bit more :P [[User:Aedror42|Aedror42]] ([[User talk:Aedror42|talk]]) 19:25, March 20, 2010 (UTC)
 
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== Female NPCs ==
 
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I wasn't sure where to place this. Anyways. Does anyone knows if Blizz will be changing the Females NPCs in Northrend to display to female model, when they become worgens, once Cata comes? [[User:Gamerd|Gamerd]] ([[User talk:Gamerd|talk]]) 04:22, May 7, 2010 (UTC)
 
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:We don't even know if they're going to change the male models. They didn't update the worgen models in the old world for wrath with those new models, and they model they have for the players might only be used for the players and npcs from Gilneas... we don't know yet. When beta hits, we'll have more answers... right now during alpha its DNP due to NDA, even if we did have the answers. {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 04:29, May 7, 2010 (UTC)
 
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So I see about the DNP. Ok. Guess like others will have to wait. I know how Blizz like to keep things "Hush-hush". [[User:Gamerd|Gamerd]] ([[User talk:Gamerd|talk]]) 04:36, May 7, 2010 (UTC)
 
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::Technically, the worgen in Northrend aren't using a new model; they just have armor on top of the old model. Otherwise, yes, you're right on the NDA point. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 06:32, May 7, 2010 (UTC)
 
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:::They use two different models, '''Worgen''' and '''NorthrendWorgen'''. Although very similar there are slight differences (not including the armor). But yea for the most part they are the same. {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 17:21, May 7, 2010 (UTC)
 
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== Messed up article ==
 
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What is the purpose of the playable worgen article if this one has been hijacked?! --[[User:Drunkenvalley|Drunkenvalley]] ([[User talk:Drunkenvalley|talk]]) 14:05, May 20, 2010 (UTC)
 
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:Slight information about the playable ones is not hijacking a page. {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 03:55, May 22, 2010 (UTC)
 
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== Are they really Northrend Worgen? ==
 
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While looking at some beta videos that takes places in Gilneas. I've noticed that some of the worgen that you fight are in many forms which includes the ones seen in Northrend. I'm remember the last time I've asked about the worgen (models) Coobra mentioned that there was 2 forms (Not the player ones). But by seeing these in Gilneas makes me wonder if they're just placeholders, worgen that stopped by from Northrend, or if they're really just another version that may be only for the quests. [[User:Gamerd|Gamerd]] ([[User talk:Gamerd|talk]]) 00:55, July 12, 2010 (UTC)
 
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:The so-called "worgen from Northrend" are just the usual worgen wearing different clothing. These new models first show up in Northrend zones. They've got leather hoods, some armor, and claws. It's just to introduce some more variety to the models, since there are a ton of worgen around. Has nothing to do with where they came from. [[User:WoWWiki-Suzaku|WoWWiki-Suzaku]] ([[User talk:WoWWiki-Suzaku|talk]]) 05:15, July 22, 2010 (UTC)
 
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== The Worgens' origin ==
 
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The first paragraph of the articel says that "the worgen come from another dimension" while the second paragraph says that the "worgen once were powerful night elven druids that could shapeshift into their wolf forms". I'm no expert but I doubt that the night elf druids came from another dimension. Can someone clarify this please? [[User:Manski|Manski]] ([[User talk:Manski|talk]]) 12:56, August 1, 2010 (UTC)
 
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:It's called a [[Retcon]] and both accounts will be stored on the wiki for prosperity, [[NPOV]] and inability to resolve retcons on Blizzard's behalf. --{{User:Zealvurte/Sig2.1}} 13:13, August 1, 2010 (UTC)
 
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::Technically, given that it was an explicitly in-universe account claiming they were from another dimension, it's easily possible for Ur to have simply been mistaken, or that he was looking into the Emerald Dream and failed to recognize it for what it was. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 20:06, August 1, 2010 (UTC)
 
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::: Exactly! Not a retcon, but a misunderstanding by an in-game source (which I'm sure wasn't Blizzard's idea at the time they wrote about Ur, but something that actually fits in quite well, and gives cohesion to the worgen background). --{{User:Oponyxal/Sig}} 15:36, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 
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::::I don't by into arguments such as that, because it then throws into doubt every single in-universe piece of lore. It's a retcon, and they can get away with it more easily than the blantent ones because they can simply discredit the in-universe source rather than themselves.
 
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::::The fact they don't provide any actual new lore to state the source was wrong, stinks of unresolved retcon aftermath because they just cba to address it. --{{User:Zealvurte/Sig2.1}} 15:48, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 
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:::::Actually, it doesn't need to be addressed. How would Ur know anything about the Emerald Dream? Any way you look at it, and even if Ur's research would've been added in-game today, he would've thought it was another dimension. Perhaps an easy solution for Blizzard, but nonetheless one that works just fine. And any in-game source can be discredited by Blizzard if they want to, without it being a retcon. Because any person in-game may have misunderstood. And that's most likely the case in this case. --{{User:Oponyxal/Sig}} 15:57, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 
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::::::Yeah... You clearly don't get what i said or the implications. Nevermind, doesn't matter. --{{User:Zealvurte/Sig2.1}} 22:07, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 
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:::::::I get what you're suggesting, but the alternative is that every piece of in-universe lore, written by an in-game character, is infallible, which is also a poor assumption to make. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 16:21, August 3, 2010 (UTC)
 
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::::::::No, the alternative is that every piece of lore is true until stated otherwise ā€“ in-universe or not. The other argument is all in-universe lore is falliable and should be treated like fan speculation at best and never needs to be handled with retcons, which is a worse assumption to make and a messy situation, consdering a almost all lore from wow is in-universe. --{{User:Zealvurte/Sig2.1}} 14:19, August 4, 2010 (UTC)
 
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:::::::::Ultimately, I don't think we really need to go to either extreme - both "everything is 100% true" and "everything that's said in-universe should be treated as speculation" are both poor stances to take. Statements made in-universe by characters CAN be wrong, if it turns out they didn't have all the information at the time, but that doesn't mean we should automatically assume that they're always wrong either. Rather, treat them as true until we learn otherwise, but unlike retcons to out-of-universe story materials it's much easier to handle retcons of purely in-universe information. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 16:24, August 4, 2010 (UTC)
 
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=="Alien to Azeroth"==
 
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For some reason they're in the (i dont know the name for this) little box for creatures alien to Azeroth. why is this, they're from Azeroth as they are a druid shapeshift of sorts. [[User:Undeadflamingo|Undeadflamingo]] ([[User talk:Undeadflamingo|talk]]) 18:38, August 15, 2010 (UTC)
 
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== Capital? ==
 
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Where did you get that Darnassus is the capital of the Worgen? --{{User:ShandrisForever/Sig}} 10:31, October 10, 2010 (UTC)
 

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