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Quote #273 added on Thursday, 2009-02-05 21:11

[21:45:26] *** Prophet has joined #wowwiki
[21:46:40] <Prophet> anyone here?
[21:48:48] <Prophet> helo?
[21:48:56] *** Prophet has left #wowwiki
[21:50:29] <Ose> damn, we just missed Medivh
[21:55:02] <@pcj> quick, to the caverns of time!

By the command of Lord g0urra of IRC, I commandeth thee to post in these forums. CogHammer Ose talk/3721 22:01, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Hail! Kirkburn  talk  contr 22:37, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
Hail Lord g0urra! DuTempete (talk) 22:40, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I know, I'm awesome. --User:Gourra/Sig2 23:21, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Forum setup situation

Continued from WoWWiki talk:Village pump#Forum support

Current situation: awaiting a CSS update to fix some of the spacing issues, and to introduce the "new post" icon. Forums and categories set up. Stickied threads can also be set up - but they require another set of categories (like "Category:WoWWiki general forum sticky"). Sound good? Kirkburn  talk  contr 23:23, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Yes. --PcjWoWWiki admin (TDrop me a line!C58,926 contributions and counting) 23:26, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
Stickied threads now supported: works by adding 'Category:[X] forum sticky' manually to a thread. I've done this with Forum:Welcome to the forums! as a general welcome message for all the forums. CSS is updated, refresh to see it. Proper launch around this time tomorrow sound good? Kirkburn  talk  contr 23:52, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
Yes. --PcjWoWWiki admin (TDrop me a line!C58,926 contributions and counting) 23:57, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
Some other notes:
Making it possible to archiving threads should be pretty easy to set up, but probably pointless at the moment as we won't have anything to archive for a while.
Deleting off-topic threads - should be no issues.
Moving threads to improve their names - should be no issues, though be aware of redirect names.
Thread names - everything is in the forum namespace, so thread names should be fairly specific, else we'll get conflicts. However, continuing an old thread, assuming it's not got too long or off-topic isn't a particularly bad thing.
Sections in threads - shouldn't be an issue, especially if it helps navigation. Kirkburn  talk  contr 00:01, 7 May 2009 (UTC)


Okay, we are live!

  • Sitenotices updated
  • Sidebar updated
  • Forum:Welcome to the forums! created to welcome people to the forums and give general information and guidelines about them. (Not intended as a discussion thread.)
  • Village pump and Warcraft pump introductions have been updated. They will warrant more overt notices and archiving at some point in the future - however, since there may be active discussions and important info on there, I caution restraint (and/or moving any active topics to the forums as has already been done with several of the topics).
  • Links and references to the village and warcraft pumps still need checking and changing around the wiki.

Big thanks to pcj and Gourra for helping set them up, thanks to Fandyllic for reminding me! Kirkburn  talk  contr 19:09, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Edit: I've done a news post now, and have checked the main page portals. I'm sure there are many more links around the place though. Kirkburn  talk  contr 19:47, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

A few days later

So, what do we think? I'm pretty happy with it so far. The non-WoWWiki forums seem to be going down pretty well - it probably helps that those are new, and without real precedent. However, transitioning from the Village pump does seem to be slower/harder as there's so much history there. Hopefully it shouldn't take too long to get used to, with more and more topics getting switched/updated on there. Kirkburn  talk  contr 18:41, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

More on Forum:Forums too forumy. Hmm... Do we need something {{F|forum name}} to make forum links less painful? --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 22:46, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
Good idea, added. --PcjWoWWiki admin (TDrop me a line!C58,926 contributions and counting) 23:32, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Is the intent to convert all the Village/Warcraft Pump archives?--SWM2448 01:06, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Nope, but it would be good to ensure any important and current topics get represented on the forum. Kirkburn  talk  contr 12:53, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

That name is taken!

Tried it out just now, situation is just as I thought. These "forum threads" are wiki pages. Which means that you cannot have a new thread that shares a name with an old, archived thread. (Presumably, you'd SEE unarchived ones...)

While that's fine if what you're looking for is "am I actually continuing a discussion from before" (which would be aided if the "name collision" error page actually had a link to said existing page), may not be precisely what folks had in mind.

How about a "date of first post" disambiguation added to archived threads? Or even "date of last post before archiving".

Wish list: If you enter a topic name previously used -even if disambiguated as above- the collision page would show you all the disambiguated links as well. --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 22:54, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Indeed it's possible we could get overlap in forum names, but I think the easier option is just to ensure threads are named well, rather than create a date system for them. I think it will take quite some time for thread name overlap to even become noticeable - if two topics could get a really similar name, it's possible they shouldn't be two different topics in the first place. Kirkburn  talk  contr 08:50, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

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