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| name = Kartra Bloodsnarl
 
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'''Kartra Bloodsnarl''' was a level 61 [[Alterac Valley]] [[battlemaster]] located in the [[Hall of the Brave]] in the [[Valley of Honor]], in the [[orcish]] city of [[Orgrimmar]]. She was removed in [[Patch 4.0.3a]].
 
   
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Kartra Bloodsnarl may have been related to Corporal Teeka Bloodsnarl, who lives outside of Tarren Mill, at the Alterac Valley camp and entrance tunnel.
 
   
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Actually unlike most silly things this article is rather actually an "informative" factoid. Its an actual quote made in the RPG. Its been cited and everything. Perhaps it doesn't belong in silly, because its too much of a "fact", ;). Actually the only thing that truly makes it silly was that I added a picture, and made a caption for the picture.
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Although I found the quote to be kinda funny in that it was the kind of thing that 'captain obvious' would say ;). Its rather obvious that halflings "don't exist".
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So the paradox is we could delete the article, however the quote, would still diserves a mention somewhere (its citeable information from an official source), ;), snickers. We could unsillify the article, and just leave the quote, but that would still have issues, as the article would be extremely limited in size. We could rename the article to something quite obvious like, [[Halflings don't exist (no duh)]], but that could be unwieldy.
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However, it is citeable information, and credible information must not be hidden from the world <winks>.[[User:Baggins|Baggins]] 15:47, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
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Is it okay if I add every race that does not exist in Warcraft? [[User:Rolandius|Rolandius]] [[Image:Paladin.gif|25px]] <small>([[User talk:Rolandius|<span title="Rolandius's Talk">talk</span>]] - [[Special:Contributions/Rolandius|<span title="Rolandius's Contributions">contr</span>]])</small> 03:05, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
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:NO.--{{User:Sandwichman2448/Sig}} 03:07, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
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::Well if halfling is on here then I guess I can. [[User:Rolandius|Rolandius]] [[Image:Paladin.gif|25px]] <small>([[User talk:Rolandius|<span title="Rolandius's Talk">talk</span>]] - [[Special:Contributions/Rolandius|<span title="Rolandius's Contributions">contr</span>]])</small> 04:40, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
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:::You guess you can add pages you know should not be added because a page you disagree with is already on the wiki? No, you can not.--{{User:Sandwichman2448/Sig}} 21:30, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
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::::The only reason this page is here is because Warcraft lore material specifically states that halflings do not exist within Azeroth. If you happen to find another such statement from an official source that explicitly states that spacepigs do not exist in Azeroth, then by all means create [[spacepigs]]. You don't have to like to policy (I don't, either), but at least try to understand why things go the way they go.'''[[Image:IconSmall BloodElf Male.gif]][[User:Amberrock|<span style="color:#FFDF21;">''AMBER''</span>]][[User talk:Amberrock|<span style="color:#FDAE16;"><sup>(RΘCK)</sup></span>]]''' 02:55, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
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:::::Okay, if I find something that Warcraft lore says doesn't exist, only then will I put it on here. [[User:Rolandius|Rolandius]] [[Image:Paladin.gif|25px]] <small>([[User talk:Rolandius|<span title="Rolandius's Talk">talk</span>]] - [[Special:Contributions/Rolandius|<span title="Rolandius's Contributions">contr</span>]])</small> 03:37, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
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Okay, all of you are being really immature, just settle down and if you find a source that says something doesn't exist you don't have to put it on. I could find a ton of stuff that doesn't exist, yet I haven't put it on, and I never will. This is just an extremely stupid way to try to rebel against the policy. -{{RaceIcon|Dwarf|Male|Small|}}{{ClassIcon|Paladin}}[[User talk:Okolorion|<font color="#007" title="My spam page!">Talk</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Okolorion|<font color="#009999" title="My assorted works">Contribs</font>]] 21:41, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
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:This discussion is old (So it likely settled), but were you talking about the page or the comments? They are slightly separate issues.--{{User:Sandwichman2448/Sig}} 21:51, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
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I feel it shouldn't it be moved, as the RPG does make mention of them, as if only to say they don't exist in the Warcraft universe. And it really doesn't do any harm where it is. {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 07:03, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
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: I like Baggins, but this seems a bit excessive for a page about one technical note.--{{User:Sandwichman2448/Sig}} 21:01, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
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:: Outside of the various D&D worlds are there any games or fiction series that have gnomes and halflings as separate races?
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:: I.E. as far as I can tell, in non-D&D use, "halfling" is just a generic name for the small race in a fantasy world. So, Hobbits, Hin, Warrows, Gnomes, etc. are all halflings. It's not so much that Warcraft does not have halflings, so much as it does not have more than one small demihuman race, and they chose to use the name gnome rather than halfling (possibly due to tinker gnomes from Dragonlance). From what I have seen, Warcraft gnomes are an amalgamation of D&D gnomes and halflings.
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:: Because of all that I think the page should remain. —[[User:MJBurrage|MJBurrage]]<sup>([[User talk:MJBurrage|T]]•[[Special:Contributions/MJBurrage|C]])</sup> 16:11, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
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:: P.S. I don't have access to the issue, and don't have the game, put according to a quick Google search, ''Dragon Magazine'' #320 had an article on [[Warcraft III]] that includes "Unsheltered Halflings". —[[User:MJBurrage|MJBurrage]]<sup>([[User talk:MJBurrage|T]]•[[Special:Contributions/MJBurrage|C]])</sup> 16:39, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
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:::I agree for a move to his namespace.
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:::{{User:A'noob/sig}} 08:14, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
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What is the source of this picture? It's been there for a long time and added without a source
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:Personally, I find the more important question to be why the article exists in the first place. I see no point in having an article on something that doesn't exist simply to explicitly point out that fact. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 21:52, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

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Actually unlike most silly things this article is rather actually an "informative" factoid. Its an actual quote made in the RPG. Its been cited and everything. Perhaps it doesn't belong in silly, because its too much of a "fact", ;). Actually the only thing that truly makes it silly was that I added a picture, and made a caption for the picture.

Although I found the quote to be kinda funny in that it was the kind of thing that 'captain obvious' would say ;). Its rather obvious that halflings "don't exist".

So the paradox is we could delete the article, however the quote, would still diserves a mention somewhere (its citeable information from an official source), ;), snickers. We could unsillify the article, and just leave the quote, but that would still have issues, as the article would be extremely limited in size. We could rename the article to something quite obvious like, Halflings don't exist (no duh), but that could be unwieldy.

However, it is citeable information, and credible information must not be hidden from the world <winks>.Baggins 15:47, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Is it okay if I add every race that does not exist in Warcraft? Rolandius Paladin (talk - contr) 03:05, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

NO.--SWM2448 03:07, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
Well if halfling is on here then I guess I can. Rolandius Paladin (talk - contr) 04:40, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
You guess you can add pages you know should not be added because a page you disagree with is already on the wiki? No, you can not.--SWM2448 21:30, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
The only reason this page is here is because Warcraft lore material specifically states that halflings do not exist within Azeroth. If you happen to find another such statement from an official source that explicitly states that spacepigs do not exist in Azeroth, then by all means create spacepigs. You don't have to like to policy (I don't, either), but at least try to understand why things go the way they go.IconSmall BloodElf MaleAMBER(RΘCK) 02:55, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
Okay, if I find something that Warcraft lore says doesn't exist, only then will I put it on here. Rolandius Paladin (talk - contr) 03:37, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Okay, all of you are being really immature, just settle down and if you find a source that says something doesn't exist you don't have to put it on. I could find a ton of stuff that doesn't exist, yet I haven't put it on, and I never will. This is just an extremely stupid way to try to rebel against the policy. -IconSmall Dwarf MalePaladinTalk Contribs 21:41, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

This discussion is old (So it likely settled), but were you talking about the page or the comments? They are slightly separate issues.--SWM2448 21:51, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Move suggestion

I feel it shouldn't it be moved, as the RPG does make mention of them, as if only to say they don't exist in the Warcraft universe. And it really doesn't do any harm where it is. SnakeSssssssssssssssssssssssss Coobra sig3For Pony! (Sssss/Slithered) 07:03, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

I like Baggins, but this seems a bit excessive for a page about one technical note.--SWM2448 21:01, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
Outside of the various D&D worlds are there any games or fiction series that have gnomes and halflings as separate races?
I.E. as far as I can tell, in non-D&D use, "halfling" is just a generic name for the small race in a fantasy world. So, Hobbits, Hin, Warrows, Gnomes, etc. are all halflings. It's not so much that Warcraft does not have halflings, so much as it does not have more than one small demihuman race, and they chose to use the name gnome rather than halfling (possibly due to tinker gnomes from Dragonlance). From what I have seen, Warcraft gnomes are an amalgamation of D&D gnomes and halflings.
Because of all that I think the page should remain. —MJBurrage(TC) 16:11, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
P.S. I don't have access to the issue, and don't have the game, put according to a quick Google search, Dragon Magazine #320 had an article on Warcraft III that includes "Unsheltered Halflings". —MJBurrage(TC) 16:39, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
I agree for a move to his namespace.
IconSmall Hamuul Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 08:14, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Picture

What is the source of this picture? It's been there for a long time and added without a source

IconSmall Hamuul Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 14:32, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Personally, I find the more important question to be why the article exists in the first place. I see no point in having an article on something that doesn't exist simply to explicitly point out that fact. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 21:52, 5 August 2011 (UTC)