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== Old discussion ==
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It might be worth noting the Swirling Maestrom in the middle of the bay in Azshara. From reading the lore which came in the Warcraft III manual, this maestrom is the first that came to mind because it was spawned when Queen Azshara was trying to open the Moonwell so Sargeras could come through. It's possible, though, that this is a spawn of the big one in the middle of the map. Any thoughts? [[User:D. F. Schmidt|Schmidt]] 17:42, 2 January 2007 (EST)
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'''Iron Chef''' is an [[achievement]] that requires the character to learn 200 [[cooking recipes]].
 
   
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:The Maelstrom was there before the night elves found it. The titians created it, not Queen Azshara. But it is true that she tried to use it to summon Sergeras, which she failed in. And yes, I've seen the Maelstrom in the middle of the bay in Azshara (the zone), but no worries, that is only a pile of dibris, still I am curious about it's name. Oh well, the only way a new Well of Eternity could be created would be by the four vials from the origonal that Illidan, Kael and Vashj now own. Or if someone took some of the water from the new Well of Eternity under Nordrassil and porred that water in some normal water. The last way a Well of Eternity could be created is if Anveena decided so. I mean, she is the Sunwell itself, and the Sunwell was created by a vial of water from the Well of Eternity... -iocaine 12:34, April 23, 2007
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==Locations==
 
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:''See the main article [[cooking recipes]] for detailed information about where to find every cooking recipe.''
 
   
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::No, the Maelstrom was created when the Well of Eternity was destroyed following Queen Azshara's attempt at turning it into a portal for the Burning Legion. The surface of the Well itself was calm and unmarred. - [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 04:14, 23 April 2007 (EDT)
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==Strategy==
 
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As of [[Patch 4.0.3a|The Shattering]] (23 November 2010) 200 recipes (196 for new characters) are available to players.
 
   
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:::The one in Azshara is used to summon [[Maws]] for the AQ gate quest chain.--{{User:Sandwichman2448/Sig}} 16:06, 23 April 2007 (EDT)
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Max your cooking skill so you can learn the most difficult recipes. At 425 cooking skill, only a few Dalaran recipes are still <span style="color:green">green</span> and <span style="color:yellow">yellow</span>, so you may need to buy extra {{item|icon=|Northern Spices}}.
 
   
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::::Should this not be in the Lore Zones category, rather than the Closed Zones, category, as it has no current presence in WoW? I have changed the categories on a couple of tiny articles in that way, but am beginning to wonder if i should after seeing this here. --[[User:Corrodias|Corrodias]] 21:18, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
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Two recipes are only available after completing Guild Achievements:
 
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* {{item|Recipe: Broiled Dragon Feast}} requires {{achievement|Set the Oven to "Cataclysmic"}}
 
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* {{item|Recipe: Seafood Magnifique Feast}} requires {{achievement|That's A Lot of Bait}}
 
   
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:::::Somewhat answering my own question, i re-read the Closed Zones article. In its description of Lore Zones, it includes things that do not appear on the world map in the game, which i suppose the Maelstrom does. Still, seeing as how it isn't known to exist in any form, reachable by players or otherwise, i don't feel it fits this category well. Then again, i'm new here, so i'd rather ask before doing any more. --[[User:Corrodias|Corrodias]] 21:23, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
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The remaining recipes are available to everyone. To find and learn them:
 
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* The add-on [[AckisRecipeList]] can be used to track your progress
 
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* Learn any remaining recipes from the cooking trainer
 
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* Complete [[cooking daily quests]] and [[fishing]] daily quests:
 
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** 6 random drop recipes from the [[Daily cooking quests#Outland Dailies|Shattrath cooking dailies]] (although the two rare ones also randomly drop from the [[Dalaran]] dailies)
 
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** 1 random drop recipe from the [[Shattrath]] fishing dailies (also now a possible reward for the Shattrath and Dalaran dailies)
 
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** 24 recipes from the [[Daily cooking quests#Northrend Dailies|Dalaran cooking dailies]]
 
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** 28 recipes from the [[Daily cooking quests#Orgrimmar/Stormwind Dailies|Stormwind / Orgrimmar cooking dailies]]
 
   
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===Faction recipes===
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==Maelstrom weak?==
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* Complete all the listed [[cooking quests]] available to your faction and check the cross-faction auction houses for recipes available only to the other faction:
 
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** Horde vendors
 
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**# {{Horde}} {{item|Recipe: Crispy Bat Wing}}
 
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**# {{Horde}} {{item|Recipe: Lynx Steak}}
 
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**# {{Horde}} {{item|Recipe: Scorpid Surprise}}
 
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**# {{Horde}} {{item|Recipe: Roasted Kodo Meat}}
 
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**# {{Horde}} {{item|Recipe: Bat Bites}}
 
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**# {{Horde}} {{item|Recipe: Crispy Lizard Tail}}
 
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**# {{Horde}} {{item|Recipe: Heavy Crocolisk Stew}}
 
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** Alliance vendors
 
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**# {{Alliance}}{{item|Recipe: Beer Basted Boar Ribs}}
 
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**# {{Alliance}}{{item|Recipe: Fillet of Frenzy}}
 
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**# {{Alliance}}{{item|Recipe: Goretusk Liver Pie}}
 
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**# {{Alliance}}{{item|Recipe: Loch Frenzy Delight}}
 
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**# {{Alliance}}{{item|Recipe: Blood Sausage}}
 
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**# {{Alliance}}{{item|Recipe: Westfall Stew}}
 
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**# {{Alliance}}{{item|Recipe: Crocolisk Steak}}
 
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**# {{Alliance}}{{item|Recipe: Clam Chowder}}
 
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**# {{Alliance}}{{item|Recipe: Murloc Fin Soup}}
 
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**# {{Alliance}}{{item|Recipe: Redridge Goulash}}
 
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**# {{Alliance}}{{item|Recipe: Seasoned Wolf Kabob}}
 
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**# {{Alliance}}{{item|Recipe: Gooey Spider Cake}}
 
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**# {{Alliance}}{{item|Recipe: Crocolisk Gumbo}}
 
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** Alliance quests
 
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**# {{Alliance}}{{item|Recipe: Roasted Moongraze Tenderloin}}
 
   
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I was wondering how does anything even live within the Maelstorm, like the naga and makrura, if it is a huge storm with the power to slowly pull islands toward it? &nbsp;[[User:Rolandius|<span style="" title="x20px">{{#if:Rolandius|Rolandius|Rolandius}}</span>]]&nbsp;{{#if:Wc3Knight.gif|[[Image:Wc3Knight.gif|16x16px|x20px]]&nbsp;}}<small>([[User talk:Rolandius|<span style="" title="{{#if:Rolandius|Rolandius|Rolandius}}'s Talk">talk</span>]]&nbsp;-&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Rolandius|<span style="" title="{{#if:Rolandius|Rolandius|Rolandius}}'s Contributions">contr</span>]]{{#if:|&nbsp;-&nbsp;[ <span style="" title="{{#if:Rolandius|Rolandius|Rolandius}}'s Website">web</span>]}})</small> 01:20, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
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===Holiday recipies===
 
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* During [[Day of the Dead]] one may acquire:
 
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** {{item|Recipe: Bread of the Dead}}
 
   
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By the way, why didn't they call it the Maelstorm instead of the Maelstrom? &nbsp;[[User:Rolandius|<span style="" title="x20px">{{#if:Rolandius|Rolandius|Rolandius}}</span>]]&nbsp;{{#if:Wc3Knight.gif|[[Image:Wc3Knight.gif|16x16px|x20px]]&nbsp;}}<small>([[User talk:Rolandius|<span style="" title="{{#if:Rolandius|Rolandius|Rolandius}}'s Talk">talk</span>]]&nbsp;-&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Rolandius|<span style="" title="{{#if:Rolandius|Rolandius|Rolandius}}'s Contributions">contr</span>]]{{#if:|&nbsp;-&nbsp;[ <span style="" title="{{#if:Rolandius|Rolandius|Rolandius}}'s Website">web</span>]}})</small> 01:21, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
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* During [[Pilgrim's Bounty]] one may acquire:
 
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** {{item|Recipe: Candied Sweet Potato}}
 
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** {{item|Recipe: Spice Bread Stuffing}}
 
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** {{item|Recipe: Cranberry Chutney}}
 
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** {{item|Recipe: Pumpkin Pie}}
 
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** {{item|Recipe: Slow-Roasted Turkey}}
 
   
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:A) Roland, you've been warned about non-editorial discussions. 2) The Naga live on the lip of the rift, which lies beneath the Maelstrom's Eye (acts in the same way as the eye of a hurricane. Zed) try checking yourself before asking: [[wikipedia:Maelstrom]]. --[[User:Ragestorm|<span style="border-bottom:1px dotted; cursor:help;" title="Admin">Ragestorm</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Ragestorm|talk]] &middot; [[Special:Contributions/Ragestorm|contr]])</small> 01:30, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
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* During the [[Feast of Winter Veil]] one may acquire:
 
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** {{item|Recipe: Gingerbread Cookie}}
 
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** {{item|Recipe: Hot Apple Cider}}
 
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** {{item|Recipe: Egg Nog}}
 
   
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===Removed recipes===
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==Possible Expansion?==
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The ability to acquire new copies of four recipes was removed in [[Patch 4.0.3a]]. Unused copies were not deleted from player inventories and may still be traded or sold on the auction house. Prior to the patch, the Chops and Tea recipes were already worth many thousands of gold in the auction house. This means that there are currently only 196 recipes reasonably available to new characters who do not, or cannot, pay the new market rates for these recipes.
 
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* {{item|Recipe: Dirge's Kickin' Chimaerok Chops}} was available from the {{Quest|Dirge's Kickin' Chimaerok Chops|AQ quest chain}}
 
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* {{item|Recipe: Thistle Tea}} was available in a non-BoP version prior to [[Patch 1.3.0]]
 
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* {{item|Recipe: Kaldorei Spider Kabob}} was available from a {{Quest|Costly Menace|Teldrassil quest}}
 
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* {{item|Recipe: Tasty Lion Steak}} was available from a {{Quest|Recipe of the Kaldorei|Southshore quest}}
 
   
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Should we put somewhere on here that this area was rumored to be part of an upcoming expansion? --[[User:Varteras|Varteras]] ([[User talk:Varteras|talk]]) 14:03, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
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:Every area that exists in lore and doesn't yet exist in-game is rumored to be part of an upcoming expansion. The Maelstrom is far from unique in this regard, nor is there any evidence that would make it more likely than any other area. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 20:43, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
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* {{Patch 4.0.3a|note=Achievement added, along with new recipes bringing the total available to 200 (196 for new characters) recipes.}}
 
   
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:: While I certainly agree that every area that does not yet exist in-game is rumored to become so at some point, this area in particular has seen a rather heavy amount of speculation. There is already mention of the Emerald Dream in its section being rumored as a large part of a future expansion. Infact, both the Emerald Dream and the Maelstrom have been the two areas that have been the most heavily rumored to be featured in an upcoming expansion, eventhough Blizzard has said themselves that they have plans for the Emerald Dream... however, what those plans are still continue to be speculated. Seems a little inconsistent to mention this in an article for one yet not for the other. I am not recommending such rumors to be placed in a subsection of this article because I somehow believe them to make the Maelstrom unique, but that there has been such a heavy amount of speculation for it and there are many other areas in the Warcraft universe that have been speculated far less than the Maelstrom and yet have had speculation of their possible inclusion posted.--[[User:Varteras|Varteras]] ([[User talk:Varteras|talk]]) 11:29, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
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==Notes==
 
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[http://www.wowhead.com/?spells=9.185 Wowhead] lists more recipes than actually exist since:
 
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* 6 are cooking training levels ([[apprentice]], [[journeyman]], [[expert]], [[artisan]], [[master]], and [[grand master]])
 
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* 5 are repeated [[Pilgrim's Bounty]] recipes (since they each have Horde and Alliance versions)
 
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* 1 is [[Campfire]]
 
   
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:::I have heard Kul Tiras, Grim Batol, Pandaria, Gilneas, and the Great Sea being in an upcoming expansion all over the place. [[User:Rolandius|Rolandius]] [[Image:Paladin.gif|25px]] <small>([[User talk:Rolandius|<span title="Rolandius's Talk">talk</span>]] - [[Special:Contributions/Rolandius|<span title="Rolandius's Contributions">contr</span>]])</small> 11:50, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
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==Bugs==
 
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::::The difference is that we know for a fact that Blizzard has been working on the Emerald Dream (or at least was at one point). While there is a considerable amount of speculation around a potential Great Sea expansion, in the end it's just that: speculation, with barely a shred of concrete evidence backing it up. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 23:55, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
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A confirmed bug reduces the count by one, as an unspecified recipe may not always be accurately counted. This was confirmed by a GM. (see [[Talk:Chef de Cuisine|discussion]])
 
   
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== Continents Location ==
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For some players, the achievement system shows a total recipe count one or two higher than the actual number known. This would enable those players to receive the achievement at 198 or 199 recipes. A reasonable explanation is that the system counted the two cookbooks that used to be required, and thus gave +1 or +2 to the count depending on whether the player was also affected by the confirmed bug mentioned above.
 
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During the Sundering, could be possible the pieces of land that remained (East Kingdoms, Kalimdor and Northrend) was pushed away from the middle (The Rift)? This would explain the ruins of Zin-Azshari on Azshara's coast. [[User:Pudim17|Pudim17]] ([[User talk:Pudim17|talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Pudim17|contr]]) 20:00, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
   
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== Maelstrom inhabitants ==
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==Progression==
 
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In TotA is mentioned, that shamans has huts in Maelstrom, so I think we should add some races who use shamanism (all is writen in TotA).
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Revision as of 10:51, 28 July 2011

Old discussion

It might be worth noting the Swirling Maestrom in the middle of the bay in Azshara. From reading the lore which came in the Warcraft III manual, this maestrom is the first that came to mind because it was spawned when Queen Azshara was trying to open the Moonwell so Sargeras could come through. It's possible, though, that this is a spawn of the big one in the middle of the map. Any thoughts? Schmidt 17:42, 2 January 2007 (EST)

The Maelstrom was there before the night elves found it. The titians created it, not Queen Azshara. But it is true that she tried to use it to summon Sergeras, which she failed in. And yes, I've seen the Maelstrom in the middle of the bay in Azshara (the zone), but no worries, that is only a pile of dibris, still I am curious about it's name. Oh well, the only way a new Well of Eternity could be created would be by the four vials from the origonal that Illidan, Kael and Vashj now own. Or if someone took some of the water from the new Well of Eternity under Nordrassil and porred that water in some normal water. The last way a Well of Eternity could be created is if Anveena decided so. I mean, she is the Sunwell itself, and the Sunwell was created by a vial of water from the Well of Eternity... -iocaine 12:34, April 23, 2007
No, the Maelstrom was created when the Well of Eternity was destroyed following Queen Azshara's attempt at turning it into a portal for the Burning Legion. The surface of the Well itself was calm and unmarred. - Dark T Zeratul 04:14, 23 April 2007 (EDT)
The one in Azshara is used to summon Maws for the AQ gate quest chain.--SWM2448 16:06, 23 April 2007 (EDT)
Should this not be in the Lore Zones category, rather than the Closed Zones, category, as it has no current presence in WoW? I have changed the categories on a couple of tiny articles in that way, but am beginning to wonder if i should after seeing this here. --Corrodias 21:18, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
Somewhat answering my own question, i re-read the Closed Zones article. In its description of Lore Zones, it includes things that do not appear on the world map in the game, which i suppose the Maelstrom does. Still, seeing as how it isn't known to exist in any form, reachable by players or otherwise, i don't feel it fits this category well. Then again, i'm new here, so i'd rather ask before doing any more. --Corrodias 21:23, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Maelstrom weak?

I was wondering how does anything even live within the Maelstorm, like the naga and makrura, if it is a huge storm with the power to slowly pull islands toward it?  Rolandius Wc3Knight (talk - contr) 01:20, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

By the way, why didn't they call it the Maelstorm instead of the Maelstrom?  Rolandius Wc3Knight (talk - contr) 01:21, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

A) Roland, you've been warned about non-editorial discussions. 2) The Naga live on the lip of the rift, which lies beneath the Maelstrom's Eye (acts in the same way as the eye of a hurricane. Zed) try checking yourself before asking: wikipedia:Maelstrom. --Ragestorm (talk · contr) 01:30, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Possible Expansion?

Should we put somewhere on here that this area was rumored to be part of an upcoming expansion? --Varteras (talk) 14:03, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Every area that exists in lore and doesn't yet exist in-game is rumored to be part of an upcoming expansion. The Maelstrom is far from unique in this regard, nor is there any evidence that would make it more likely than any other area. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 20:43, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
While I certainly agree that every area that does not yet exist in-game is rumored to become so at some point, this area in particular has seen a rather heavy amount of speculation. There is already mention of the Emerald Dream in its section being rumored as a large part of a future expansion. Infact, both the Emerald Dream and the Maelstrom have been the two areas that have been the most heavily rumored to be featured in an upcoming expansion, eventhough Blizzard has said themselves that they have plans for the Emerald Dream... however, what those plans are still continue to be speculated. Seems a little inconsistent to mention this in an article for one yet not for the other. I am not recommending such rumors to be placed in a subsection of this article because I somehow believe them to make the Maelstrom unique, but that there has been such a heavy amount of speculation for it and there are many other areas in the Warcraft universe that have been speculated far less than the Maelstrom and yet have had speculation of their possible inclusion posted.--Varteras (talk) 11:29, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
I have heard Kul Tiras, Grim Batol, Pandaria, Gilneas, and the Great Sea being in an upcoming expansion all over the place. Rolandius Paladin (talk - contr) 11:50, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
The difference is that we know for a fact that Blizzard has been working on the Emerald Dream (or at least was at one point). While there is a considerable amount of speculation around a potential Great Sea expansion, in the end it's just that: speculation, with barely a shred of concrete evidence backing it up. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 23:55, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Continents Location

During the Sundering, could be possible the pieces of land that remained (East Kingdoms, Kalimdor and Northrend) was pushed away from the middle (The Rift)? This would explain the ruins of Zin-Azshari on Azshara's coast. Pudim17 (talk - contr) 20:00, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Maelstrom inhabitants

In TotA is mentioned, that shamans has huts in Maelstrom, so I think we should add some races who use shamanism (all is writen in TotA).