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Re: 3.9.0

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Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 17:49, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, was there a reason for that? --Joshmaul (talk) 23:02, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

Your comment on Talk:Patch 3.9.0#Delete this page

Sorry *grin*

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 09:13, June 2, 2010 (UTC)

Bookfooter

I'll happily help with the switch from {{Books}} to {{Bookfooter}} if you'd like, just let me know when it's ready and any special instructions.  Drazisil (^t/_c) 12:13, June 7, 2010 (UTC)

You can switch them, the new one is fully operational.

Replace {{Books}} by {{Bookfooter|<TYPE>}} when ever you find one, or check What Links to Template:Books for a full list.

Have fun :)

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 22:31, June 7, 2010 (UTC)

What about World of Warcraft: The Magazine and Short stories? Pretty much done otherwise. Drazisil (^t/_c) 03:08, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

Well, I wouldn't call them comics. Don't know how many Blizz plan to continue to make at 4 a year (but for how long), I'd give them their own footer. Sssssssssssssssssssssssss For Pony! (^Sssss/_Slithered) 04:29, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

Added a Magazine and Short story sections. Short story only covers Online Short Story, because other Short Story are covered in the RPG section.

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 07:25, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

Your Sig

How'd you get your sig to appear like that? I put it in my sig, hit preview, then copy paste it into the message to add...is there a different way to do it? -- Astus the Graven One

Just create a page under your userspace, such as User:Drazisil/Sig and then place that in your sig as {{subst:User:Drazisil/Sig}}

Make sure the custom sig button is checked. Drazisil (^t/_c) 01:34, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! -- Astus the Graven One 21:26, July 18, 2010 (UTC)

Image of Drakuru

Please note that both wowhead and thottbot are schizophrenic about the Image of Drakuru character IDs. Some IDs are listed as starting/ending more than one quest; some quests link to alternate IDs that don't link back to that character ID, etc. the 26500 ID seems to be the "most stable" of the set. --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 20:55, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Well I used the position more than the quest, since we know the zones to go, I more or less guessed which ID is which image.

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 20:57, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

DEHTA

What possessed you to change the category name? --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 18:28, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Same reason that the Article moved from DETHA to its full real name. Same goes for BOOM.

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 13:30, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

um

How is that video not a contribution to the lich king? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lordkalec10587 (talk · contr).

Because we tend to remain serious on the content we add to articles.

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 22:52, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

And thats a serious song on how tragic the lich kings life from arthas to death did you even watch the video? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lordkalec10587 (talk · contr).

As "good" as it can be, we will keep out the fan videos.

You are of course free to ask an admin on the topic.

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 22:59, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Torch catching guide

Two things...

1. you might be well on your way to joining the "stop the frivolous splitting of quest pages" camp. Or at least seeing one of the reasons for it.
2. There are factions that disagree with sub-pages on a philosophical basis. You might find it more convenient to rename Quest:Torch Catching/Guide to Catching Torches to something more like Guide to Catching Midsummer Juggling Torches.

--Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 18:20, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

I agree some quests, should not be split, but we argue for long on this and even admins are not all on the same side.

So, do as you like Ratchy! ;p

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 18:23, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

Not sure I completely understand your comment about this Eirik Ratcatcher, but if you check the history, I think the original article name was closer to your suggestion (and I was a bit taken aback at the name change with no reason, especially as I was about to put in some links to it, lol). Was my original name for it a violation? Keyesc (talk) 18:26, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

In fact I believed that adding it in quest articles would be more easy to find. (no violation at all)

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 18:31, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

I created the article using the section headings as described in the WoWwiki Manual of Style. You changed them in a subsequent edit with no reason listed. Please advise. Keyesc (talk) 18:43, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

Ah... The problem came that A'noob transcluded the entire article in Quest:Torch Catching (Alliance) and Quest:Torch Catching (Horde). The section headings do not match well with the headings on those pages. I think in this case that...

1. The page should be reverted to the old name (or something like it)
2. the quests should use {{main}} to point to said page, and include a one or two paragraph summary of the page.

If A'noob desires, the contents of the "section+main" can be in the current Quest:xxxx/subpage name, in a Template:something name, completely inline, or something else. But using summary/Main avoids the whole header ranking issue, as well as keeping the quest pages from gratuitously including a level of detail that verges on incompatable with the page. I can do this if you guys want, or one of you can take the lead. I'm easy. --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 21:54, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

I am not yet familiar with {{main}}. Also, is there a guideline for when to transclude vs. just providing a link? Keyesc (talk) 03:22, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia's Main template describes what I believe to be the standard for the convention of {{main}}. Guideline? Rule of thumb, really: "if what you're describing can stand as a page of its own, it probably should BE a page of its own." Size is a large factor in the choice. Beyond that it is a stylistic choice that we don't have formalized to my knowledge. My initial comment seems to have mutated into a larger discussion... --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 18:59, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

Let's revert to "Guide to Torch blabla". But I believe a simple link offers less visibility.

Your choice Keyesc.

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 06:25, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

Why I suggested a summary to go with the link. --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 18:59, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

You told me you would be back :'(

But you aren't D: xDDD.

I've finished with the list I had, no more to copy-paste. However, there's still some locations missing, so feel free to add whichever you recall without me editing each 5 seconds :P.--Lon-ami (talk) 19:21, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

Cataclysm release date

What book 1 do you mean!? The release date for this book is 09/27/10, it will hit stores on 10/19/10. Thus August should be only game release. Edit: I forgot to sign, sorry. --N'Nanz (talk) 14:39, July 5, 2010 (UTC)

Your link gives the release/selling date for The Shattering, but not for Cataclysm.

You are assuming that the game will be released in August, because the book will deal about the Cataclysm, but it is not certain, Rise of the Lich King came moments after WotLK. Catalsym could be released months after The Shattering.

There is no "fact" in the date you give us (or did I miss a line in your link?)

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 14:47, July 5, 2010 (UTC)

In the article it's written: "(...) An avid player of Blizzard’s MMORPG World of Warcraft, Golden has written several novels in that world (Arthas, Lord of the Clans, Rise of the Horde) with more in the works, including The Shattering: Prelude to Cataclysm, due out in August 2010 (...)"

"The Shattering" is the prelude to "World of Warcraft: Cataclysm", the game. There is no book called "Cataclysm". Now we know the release/selling dates for "The Shattering" thus what's happening in August but the release of the game??? xD

--N'Nanz (talk) 15:02, July 5, 2010 (UTC)

"Cataclysm" was refering to the Game. I'll try to explain myself better.

The dates you found are the dates of the book The Shattering, they have nothing do to with the game Cataclysm and should not be mentionned in the game's article

The Shattering is a prelude to the game Cataclysm, so the prelude is to be released in August, but that does not give us a release date for the game Cataclysm.

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 15:09, July 5, 2010 (UTC)

No, you're wrong.

Release date of "The Shattering": 09/27/10; (look left column)

Selling date of "The Shattering": 10/19/10; (look left column)

Release of "World of Warcraft: Cataclysm": August 2010 --N'Nanz (talk) 19:23, July 5, 2010 (UTC)

I'm really sorry N'Nanz, I'm half-dumb and half-blind xD

Where do you read?

"Release of "World of Warcraft: Cataclysm": August 2010"

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 05:25, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

"Cataclysm, due out in August 2010" --N'Nanz (talk) 10:25, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

The Shattering: Prelude to Cataclysm (ISBN-10: 1416550747), due out in August 2010

Proper association is everything. --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 20:00, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Ah! Someone can still understand me! I'm not finished! xD

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 05:22, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

The Shattering: Prelude to Cataclysm, due out in October 2010 --N'Nanz (talk) 10:24, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

The release date of the book varies with the source, but I am quasi sure that your link give a date for the book, not the game (which is IMO, very very very very very very very very very very unfinished for a launch August)

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 12:14, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

What really happened?

Moved to Forum:What is Arthas alignment?

Thankyou for editing help :)

Hey,

Just a quick thankyou for helping-out with getting guild logo working properly; sporadically edit guild pages and can be classified as a WoWwiki nub. :)

Rescindent (talk) 14:31, July 8, 2010 (UTC)Rescindent

You're welcome.

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 14:43, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

Battle for WoWwiki

Please do not delete our page A'noob! Sl2059 (talk) 10:46, July 12, 2010 (UTC)

Get it to your user namespace. It does not belong to the main space dude.

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 10:48, July 12, 2010 (UTC)

Ok,so can you get it back for a sec,so i can copy it?...

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sl2059 (talk · contr).

Ask Gourra for this, I am not an admin :)

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 10:57, July 12, 2010 (UTC)

You're not? I always thought you were. lol —EGingell (T|C|F) Treader of Cenarion Circle 14:33, July 12, 2010 (UTC)

Nope, I prefer being a lazy peon xD

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 14:35, July 12, 2010 (UTC)

3RR

You need to re-read the WW:3RR policy. Reversions which span a time greater than 24 hours are not covered by this policy. --PcjWowpedia wiki manager (TDrop me a line!•C207,729 contributions and counting) 12:53, July 13, 2010 (UTC)

Ok. It falls under adding nonsense so?

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 13:11, July 13, 2010 (UTC)

Scythe of Elune

"Please read my edits' comment: Arugal's story has been changed a bit, now he did not only used Ur's reasearches, but also the Scythe of Elune.

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 15:53, July 19, 2010 (UTC)"

I had no idea. Could you post the source behind this information? --Oponyxal / Arodeesa  talk  contr 16:08, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

All is explained during the Worgen starting experience

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 16:23, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

Actually, I've read through everything, and Arugal is only mentioned once, and not in any relations to the Scythe. I think this is merely a misinterpretation made by worldofraids, and since it's not a cannon source, it should be removed. I'm usually not in doubt about your edits, as you tend to be spot-on, but in this particular case, I think you're wrong. Without a proper source attached to the statements that "Arugal messed with the Scythe", it shouldn't be there.

--Oponyxal / Arodeesa  talk  contr 17:48, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

All is not written in WoWWiki yet, and the fact that Arugal messed with the Scythe seems to be the report of many beta testers. But you can choose to be careful, go on, we can always get it back later :)

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 17:50, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

Without a proper source, it can be a massive misinterpretation. I've been watching the quest lines and dialogues, and can't find it anywhere. Might come in later, though, but as of yet, I prefer to be on the safe side. Also, Velinde is supposed to have held the Scythe at the time Arugal summoned the worgen. Looking forward to seeing how this turns out, though.

--Oponyxal / Arodeesa  talk  contr 17:59, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

It is still possible that people pointing out holes in lore may cause Blizzard to alter quest information (etc). I would definitely put "changes re Scythe of Elune found in the Worgen starting experience" in the category of "not confirmed". I am also hoping that we preserve any "pre-retcon" lore changes. --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 19:31, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

WW:RFA

Please sign your nomination =) Sssssssssssssssssssssssss For Pony! (^Sssss/_Slithered) 14:37, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

Reverted template edits

The reason we added c-inline to templates/template heads is because the game isn't out yet and because some zones are undergoing massive changes, and not because we felt it needed distinguishing otherwise.

I'm reverting your edits. --Sky (t · c) 14:47, July 21, 2010 (UTC)

I've created Forum:Inline expansion icons on zone templates to discuss this. Kirkburn  talk  contr 15:31, July 21, 2010 (UTC)

You might do better to bring that over to Forum:Removal of T:RPG and T:Cat, a related discussion. --Sky (t · c) 15:37, July 21, 2010 (UTC)

Capitals

Sorry for making some extra work for you. The fact i don't agree with much of the naming and styling policy on the wiki -- thus i don't make any effort to follow it -- is why i don't -- and why people shouldn't want me to -- ever do major edits outside my userspace anymore. Capitals was just falling ito disarray, so something had to be done. Again, sorry. :/ -- Zeal ^(T/C)  12:11, July 27, 2010 (UTC)

No prob.

Already on it.

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 12:13, July 27, 2010 (UTC)

Rakh'likh

You can check every article. None are actually linking to it. The job queue is choking atm. Once the job queue is running smoothly again, all those links will disappear. --Sky (t · c) 14:20, July 31, 2010 (UTC)

Articles

Is it OK, i created a Flamekin article and a Terrorfiend (race) article is that OK? Hallowseve15 (talk) 13:34, August 2, 2010 (UTC)

Yes it is!

Just isn't Fiend the same thing as Terrorfiend?

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 13:36, August 2, 2010 (UTC)

People keep saying its a Subspecies to the Fiend. So I thought i'd create it. Hallowseve15 (talk) 13:43, August 2, 2010 (UTC)

Ok, Just moving the mob to Terrorfiend (mob) and the race to Terrorfiend

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 13:58, August 2, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the Help A'noob. Hallowseve15 (talk) 14:17, August 2, 2010 (UTC)

Whats the criteria that makes them a subspecies? Sssssssssssssssssssssssss For Pony! (^Sssss/_Slithered) 19:06, August 2, 2010 (UTC)

Personnaly, I see the exact same creature when looking a Fiend and a so-called Terrorfiend.

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 21:38, August 2, 2010 (UTC)

Exactly... if anything, the proper name of these fiends is probably terrorfiends, cause it seems a majority of them (according to wowhead) have terror in their name, be it terrorguard, fiend, or master. fiend models Sssssssssssssssssssssssss For Pony! (^Sssss/_Slithered) 21:43, August 2, 2010 (UTC)

I suggest deletion, and any futher debate can go to Talk:Fiend

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 22:02, August 2, 2010 (UTC)

I agree. Sssssssssssssssssssssssss For Pony! (^Sssss/_Slithered) 22:07, August 2, 2010 (UTC)

Adminship

Congratulations! Your RFA has passed. You now have access to the sysop toolset. Please ask any active admin if you have questions about the tools. --k_d³ 02:03, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

Welcome to the jungle. Sssssssssssssssssssssssss For Pony! (^Sssss/_Slithered) 02:05, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

We've got fun and games? --PcjWowpedia wiki manager (TDrop me a line!•C207,729 contributions and counting) 02:15, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

We got everything you want! Gratz man.--SWM2448 02:20, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

You're now an admin on a boat. --Sky (t · c) 02:30, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

Speaking about "everything I want", isn't there some piece of this thing called "cata beta key" left? xD

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 17:06, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

Fire off an email to kirkburn. >.> --k_d³ 17:23, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

It's gonna blow!

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 17:50, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

Congratulations from Eastern Europe! I'm sure you'll do an exemplary job. --Ragestorm (talk) 19:59, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

Hey, we finally added you to the list at WoWWiki:Administrators - you might want to write an actual description for yourself. --PcjWowpedia wiki manager (TDrop me a line!•C207,729 contributions and counting) 16:42, October 4, 2010 (UTC)

Images

As an admin you can view the deleted image without having to restore it. Just scroll down to the file history. =) Sssssssssssssssssssssssss For Pony! (^Sssss/_Slithered) 23:09, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, it seems so -_-"

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 23:11, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for fixing WoWWiki:List of unique character icons.. I wasn't looking forward to doing it myself =P Sssssssssssssssssssssssss For Pony! (^Sssss/_Slithered) 00:28, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

No prob, can't sleep anyway.

Anything else while I am around?

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 00:43, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Nothing comes to mind... unless you want to stack all those returned books in a neat pile over in that corner, I'll have a warlock come by later and set them ablaze, muahahahaa ... I miss doing Karazhan. Sssssssssssssssssssssssss For Pony! (^Sssss/_Slithered) 00:46, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

I am the "Old Days Rusher", meet the tauren on Medivh EU!

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 00:49, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Responding about Ner'zhul

Moved to Talk:Ner'zhul#Responding about Ner'zhul

SMW

I have a question about SMW. I wonder why Diseased Timber Wolf is not a part of it. I cannot browse from there. Hans Kamp (talk) 18:31, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

I am affraid I cannot help you on this. But I can find Diseased Timber Wolf in the google search.

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 18:33, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

The SMW properties of that page are assigned by the Npcbox template, so if that happens you need to perform a null edit on the page to get the SMW properties to show up. --PcjWowpedia wiki manager (TDrop me a line!•C207,729 contributions and counting) 18:39, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. I will try that latter, doing a null edit. Hans Kamp (talk) 18:48, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

That was successful. Now you can browse from there. :) Hans Kamp (talk) 18:49, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

My comment on Shadowmourne

Hey, you removed my note on the Shadowmourne page about him accidentally deleting his weapon because "my source was myself".

I was asked by my guild to make the edit because I was one of the few that already had a wowwiki account, and when you added that I needed citation, we as a guild emailed sites such as wow.com and mmochampion with screenshots and the like, trying to get them to post something we could link as a source.

The only other thing we could think of was a post on our forums talking about the incident. Apologies that I couldn't get the officer who made the deletion to make the post himself, but he's a busy guy. Was the problem with the source that he hadn't commented on the thread himself? I'm just trying to understand how I can get the post reinstated, we thought it was pretty hilarious at his expense, and we didn't think anyone else in the world had ever done this particular stupid thing, making it a pretty big deal in our eyes :) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Fiamma29 (talk · contr).

Sure that is an event to note, but the lack of source makes it hard to keep. Not that I do not believe it really happen, but except your own word, there is no article on mmo or wow.com (can't believe they did not posted about this), no screen or anything else.

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 10:50, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

Fair enough, thanks for the quick response. But yea, I guess with all the Cata news, a deleted SM isn't something worth posting? He got it back within two days via GM ticket though, lucky! :P Pity I can't get anyone to act as a reliable source, the officer who did it is quite stubborn and sick of us making fun, he won't post in the thread I started :( Thanks again for your help :)

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Fiamma29 (talk · contr).

Cata can die now, Deleted SM is good for us!

You're welcome.

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 15:16, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

rofl

This fuckwad takes out other peoples' useful edits and replaces them with the exact same thing to make it look like he's doing it all. FUCK YOU BITCH.s —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kindahuge (talk · contr).

I would be glad if you explain this to me in details.

Sincerely yours.

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 16:26, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Creating articles

I'm just going to say this once: do NOT create articles that just say "X is a subzone of Y", if you're going to create it then provide an image or something. You're not supposed to make an article just to remove a broken link. It's also very rude that you do that to a link that I just added, it didn't strike you that I would add it? --g0urra[T҂C] 09:47, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Wait five minutes lol, I am on mmo champion, pickup the screen. That does not evil to create them all then add picture ain't it?

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 09:49, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

And you can prove that this is from the current build and not from a previous one? --g0urra[T҂C] 09:57, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, beacause I am in Beta!

Oh wait no I am not!

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 09:59, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

In order words you have no way to know if those screenshots are real or not. --g0urra[T҂C] 10:05, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, seems Captain Kirkburn has forgotten me on the shore...

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 10:07, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

I'm in the Beta. Tell me where and I can get you a screenshot. :) —EGingell (T|C|F) Treader of Cenarion Circle 02:20, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Avatar

Hey, your avatar (on Monaco and other Wikia skins) is broken. Any idea what might have caused this? --PcjWowpedia wiki manager (TDrop me a line!•C207,729 contributions and counting) 16:13, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

I do not remember I ever upload an avatar... Which one is it?

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 19:41, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Dustwallow Marsh

What is your reason for this change? --g0urra[T҂C] 14:11, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

I guess I thought that subzones physically inside of another subzone could be written like I did (do I even make myself clear?).

For example Embestrife Den and Onyxia's Lair are in Wyrmbog.

I would tend to do it to all zones, if you agree thoses changes. If not, I will only change it for the town/capital/dugeon subzones.

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 14:36, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

I was thinking more it would apply to cities, but it may have uses outside those. --g0urra[T҂C] 07:19, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

Gabrirt reverts

May I ask why you reverted his edits? They seem to be for no bad intentions - the only difference they make is that they have tooltips. --g0urra[T҂C] 07:20, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

Because they were all reverted by Coobra in the first place

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 07:26, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

Aye... it's silly and pointless to {{NPC}} tag practically every name in an article, throughout the article, several times like so. Sssssssssssssssssssssssss For Pony! (^Sssss/_Slithered) 07:31, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

So why are they linked that way in the first place? This and this edit (granted, linking them again in the conversation may seem unnecessary) were to add tooltips to links that already existed. If you're going to remove unnecessary number of links then remove those that were there in the first place, not revert someone who only had good intentions. I'd also like to point out WW:AGF which I find relevant in this case. --g0urra[T҂C] 07:56, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

Block of DanDober

3 months is simply an unacceptable time period for a block to a user with a) no warnings, b) not obvious vandalism, and c) without email or talk page editing enabled. --Sky (t · c) 18:59, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

I believe this and that are "obvious vandalism".

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 19:17, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

The former is obvious page blanking, but that does not imply vandalism. This is why you leave a warning. The second could simply have been the user removing the rest of his blanking; he might not know how to use the history function. Neither are obvious vandalism. --Sky (t · c) 19:23, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

Seems obvious to me, too; however, three months does seem a bit excessive. —EGingell (T|C|F) Treader of Cenarion Circle 19:59, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

I agree completely with the consequences for such actions. Three months seem fine. --Oponyxal / Arodeesa  talk  contr 18:17, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

Lich King

Really sorry about any bad changes I made with the Lich King page and the relationship thing. I just REALLY enjoy the lore and thought that it wwould be a bit more interesting to just put down the relationships he head with the people he met in the story. Thanks for the edit:) and once again really sorry if I messed up the page.

--Vandiir (talk) 19:19, September 7, 2010 (UTC)

Hammer of the Righteous

As it stands atm, it seems Hammer of the Righteous will now damage all targets, as opposed to the hitting 3/4 targets. Shall I add something to the page like what it will be like in Cataclysm, or shall I wait until the beta closes so that it's definite? Epsi-spoon (talk) 21:42, September 8, 2010 (UTC)

Cairne Bloodhoof

What you mean Source? some kind of clue? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Imisklaria (talk · contr).

Anything that could justify the statement: a screenshot, a link to a website (mmo champion, world of raid, etc...)

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 15:19, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Cataclysm Raid boss pages

I thought Al'Akir's page looked prettier with the quotes to label the phases, alas.

I remember you fixing boss page edits I've made since Naxxramas 2.0 I suppose I shouldn't be surprised!

Nitros14 10:34, November 2, 2010 (PST)

We just like to keep all quotes together, that's all. Sssssssssssssssssssssssss For Pony! (^Sssss/_Slithered) 05:38, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Like He Who Must Not Be Named said, keeping quotes together and appart from the abilities or strategy look a bit clearer. (imo?)

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 18:52, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Hardened Elementium Bar versus Enchanted Elementium Bar

I noticed you deleted the page on  [Hardened Elementium Bar] and moved the contents to the  [Enchanted Elementium Bar] page. I wanted to point out that as of right now on live, it's still called "Hardened Elementium Bar." It won't get changed to Enchanted Elementium Bar (a better name imo) until either 4.0.3 or 4.0.3a. I wasn't sure how it would be best to restore the page though. Should the enchanted elementium redirect to hardened elementium, or should hardened elementium redirect to a page named after an item that doesn't currently exist on the live realm? Either way, Hardened Elementium shouldn't be deleted entirely. Dr. Cheis (talk) 19:33, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, we'll leave a redirect from Hardened to Enchanted until the Beta is Live.

Thanks for pointing that out.

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 19:39, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Deleting pages

There's no harm in leaving a redirect. Rubali (talk)

Be bold Rubali! ;)

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 21:54, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Instancefooter

May I ask why you decided to replaced {{Dungeons}} with {{Instancefooter}}? Was there any reason to, especially after I cleaned it up? --g0urra[T҂C] 16:30, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Well that remained a big template even after your draft.

So I went ahead and rushed toward Lon-ami suggestion of an Instancefooter ala Bookfooter.

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 16:32, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Sure, it was a bigger template, but you could choose what you wanted to see. The Dungeons template was a mess with all the icons and that you had to see them all, and I categorized it by expansion/game. Did that not occur to you? --g0urra[T҂C] 16:36, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Sure I see the categorization, but that still made something "extra-large"

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 16:37, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

What point are you trying to make? The difference between the sizes isn't that much bigger. --g0urra[T҂C] 16:38, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

I hope you are joking about size, else I would say you need my blind-glasses.

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 16:41, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

So it's a little bigger, so what? Are you trying to make an argument that in order to make it smaller you'll sacrifice accessibility? --g0urra[T҂C] 16:44, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

It occurs to me that the reverse argument is true too. You would make a mammoth template to have more accessibility?

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 16:48, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

I would - it would mean you can get from instance to instance easier, instead of having to click an unnecessary amount of times to get there. Either way Dungeons is set to be collapsed by default, does that make it better for you? --g0urra[T҂C] 16:50, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

A'noob is right, a more narrow scope is a good idea to break down the hulking mess that is {{Dungeons}}. --PcjWowpedia wiki manager (TDrop me a line!•C207,729 contributions and counting) 16:52, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Holycrap a supporter!

Let's ask for Vox Populi.

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 16:53, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Keristrasza icons

I've just made two icons for Keristrasza in human form and Nexus-dragon form.

File:IconSmall Keris.gif What do you think?

PS.: Writting Dragonkin names is murder. X_X

Mig64 (talk) 19:34, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Nice, maybe something more "frontal" for the dragon form?

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 19:40, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

I agree.. its kind of hard to tell what it is. You might want to compare it with the other dragon icons and try to get it near like those for consistency... also, you should use a black background for the icons rather than a grey. =) Sssssssssssssssssssssssss For Pony! (^Sssss/_Slithered) 20:48, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Sir Zeliek

http://www.wowpedia.org/Sir_Zeliek

Disagreement on the Lore here. Can you hop over and make a decision on it?

http://www.wowpedia.org/Commander_Eligor_Dawnbringer_%28Wintergarde%29

The most powerful Death Knights within Naxxramas are the four horsemen. They represent the pinnacle of Kel'Thuzad's guard. The first, Thane Korth'azz, holds the power of flame. The next, Lady Blaumeux, calls forth the power of shadows, drawing the souls of the living into the voracious embrace. Sir Zeliek, a paladin in life, so strong in his faith, that even in undeath, the power of the light still heeds his call, smiting his foes in battle. The final Death Knight, Lord Mograine, was the finest warrior that the Death Knights had ever seen. However, after the events in Azeroth, he vanished without a trace. Kel'Thuzad has appointed Baron Rivendare in his place.

Just to provide the info I was using to call him a Death Knight and not an undead Paladin.

Basically he is stated in game as a Death Knight that can use the Holy Light due to his faith in life. I don't think that qualifies him as an undead Paladin via subjective reasoning.

Pyrolight (talk) 15:34, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Cataclysm Raid loot

Now that both 10-man and 25-man raids drops the same items, shouldn't we just separate loot in normal and heroic? like at the Bastion of Twilight loot page. GVHB (talk) 21:13, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

You're right, I forgot it ;)

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 21:15, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

With great power...

...Comes the responsibility to do more than hit the auto-create button. I'm just saying. :-P --Bellocois (talk) 08:38, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Eeeeeeeeeh..... No !

Great power is for kicking asses xD

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 08:40, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

But seriously, you might find it helpful to have the patch data and template for the chain copied somewhere separate, and use that to complement the automated tool. I was just making sure you planned to fix the pages. --Bellocois (talk) 08:43, 3 January 2011 (UTC)