Talk: Benitoperezgaldos

Again, welcome! --Warchiefthrall (talk) 09:49, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

WC3 info

I am not against your mass adding of Warcraft III information, on the contrary, I am all for it, but can you please keep it slightly separate from other information (RPG, WoW, ect.) and add proper citation to it using {{Ref game}}? Thank you.--SWM2448 23:44, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Ok, no problem, i will use that template if you want. I'll see my contribution and try to cite everything i have added. Benitoperezgaldos (talk) 00:05, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Fanart

Re your question, the general convention is that fanart is all right on a page as long as it isn't in an infobox or headlining. If massive amounts of fanart are being posted (and we usually only reproduce fanart Blizzard has already displayed), a separate gallery (see Sylvanas Windrunner as an example) can be created. In the case of Scourge, however, I think it's fine to leave it there for now, as it's the only one on the page.--Ragestorm (talk · contr) 21:50, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for the answer Ragestorm, I didn't knew about that. Benitoperezgaldos (talk) 22:15, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

The Citations

Ohh ok. But I'm still not sure how to add it. Crimsonknight17

Thanks

Thanks for the help --Crimsonknight17 (talk) 07:08, 1 December 2008 (UTC)Crimsonknight17

Fix link

Cool! I missed that. Rolandius (talk - contr) 11:25, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Dog citations

The jackal and wild dog are cited at the top of the page.Template:Cite The sentence is a bit wrong I think as the source does not say "They include small wild canines including, coyotes, jackals, and wild dogs." but says that coyotes, jackals, and wild dogs can use the same stats as a dog if you want. Unless that is supposed to mean they are dogs? I don't think so. As for the white hound, I am not sure who added it or where it comes from. Rolandius (talk - contr) 11:36, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for the answer, then I will add the citations to the jackals and wild dogs to avoid confusion, also thanks to the rename you made to the article they can be included. Benitoperezgaldos (talk) 17:51, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Warcraft 3 quests

Include any information you have about them in their respective campaign articles. g0urra[T҂C] 23:05, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Ok, I didn't knew if it was right to leave them in the mission article or make their own article. Now on I will add the quest to their mission acticle. Benitoperezgaldos (talk) 00:08, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

"The Betrayer" image

I just checked the Sons of the Storm... though it resembles Sargeras more than Kil'jaeden.

Maybe what we can do is to make an article for The Deceiver, I remember seeing some mobs and places in WoW with that title and then we can add that image. Benitoperezgaldos (talk) 04:08, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

3rd hand citations

Regarding your comment about adding citations for Sylvanas Windrunner, I understand your perspective, but technically citing content that points to pages on WoWWiki is actually worse, if those pages don't have references themselves. BlizzPlanet is a Blizzard authorized lore source. If you're going to point to pages at WoWWiki as sources, like The Dark Lady, those pages need to have external source citations and refs. -- Fandyllic (talk · contr) 1:03 PM PST 29 Mar 2009

Ok. After cheking blizzplanet I see that you're right, if we link to Blizzplanet in the missions articles the people can see the full transcript of the mission that wowwiki lacks. Benitoperezgaldos (talk) 20:46, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

I'm not saying that you should link to Blizzplanet articles, but if you link to local WoWWiki articles, make sure they link to Blizzplanet or somewhere that might be considered an external source. My concern with your refs were that some of them pointed to missing articles or articles without external sources. You do good stuff, so keep doing it. -- Fandyllic (talk · contr) 4:25 PM PST 29 Mar 2009

Yeah, I think I get it. My mistake was that I sourced a link that hadn't the information cited and even red links. Next time I'll check if it is linked to an external link with the transcription of the mission and if it doesn't have I will add it. Benitoperezgaldos (talk) 04:16, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Link

Thanks for the link correction, I missed that one I guess. Rolandius (talk - contr) 05:57, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Loot Tables

If you're referring to the loot tables for the Black Temple trash mobs, then I removed them because:

• They were out of date compared to the data from other websites.
• They didn't drop any noticeable unique loot (trash epics don't count because most of the trash mobs there can drop the same loot).
• If the table was to be updated, it would require an immense amount. For example, Wowhead.com has records of the Aqueous Lord dropping roughly 200 items. And since the values would constantly keep changing, I figured there was no point in keeping them.

I'm sory if you feel like I messed it up, but I thought it was appropriate to remove. Hope you understand. Reddwarf1928 (talk) 03:52, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for the explanation, if they were out of date then I think you made the right thing. Benitoperezgaldos (talk) 04:10, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Lost ones

Ok we have a problem, and its not your fault as best I can tell. Basically what's happened is that huge sections of information have been stripped from the article, info relating to Lands of Conflict and Manual of Monsters. Citations have been broken, and information has been taken out of context of those sources. Ok, while the info from those sources and some of the other Harborage quests don't overlap perfectly, part of this has to do with the fact that Lands of Conflict and Manual of Monsters was discussing the Fallow Sanctuary Lost Ones, not the Harborage. It was discussing the crazy ones only, they had enough sense to be able to call themselves "Lost Ones" but not enough sanity to interact with other races peacefully. They were violent and aggressive attacking anyone (obviously not the Harborage draenei). Basically someone came by stripped out the details and tried to merge the two accounts, without the understanding that previous source wasn't even touching on Harborage history. The info needs to be reinserted, citations fixed, and seperated into seperate sections if need be. Essentially the same situation that occurred centaur and Man'ari eredar pages. I suppose since the LoC and MoM info was specifically categorized under "draenei" it should probably be moved to a subsection of that article, with links back to the lost ones article, and only the "Lost Ones" specific referenced inserted in that article.Baggins (talk) 22:20, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

I see, you have made a good solution by adding the another background in the draenei article, moving Draenei Lost Ones to just Lost Ones and Broken draenei to just Broken would also help to clarify everything, and I suggest a final solution, we can also separte the tribe called Lost Ones from the race with the same name; something similar to what I made with Tuurem and Tuurem (Lost Ones). Benitoperezgaldos (talk) 23:18, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Ok, one more issue can "Lost one" be lower case? Most examples that I can find its in an npc title. Lost Ones could get its own page I suppose, but I'm not sure there is enough info for more than a stub... and stubs should be avoided.Baggins (talk) 23:26, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

MoM and LoC put uppercase, and all of the quests I checked in WoW are also uppercase. And about the stub, I can work in it, if you want I can start with information of LoC and MoM and then update it with the quests of WoW. Benitoperezgaldos (talk) 23:41, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Ok, if you think there is enough to make an article, go ahead. Lost Ones, should suffice (use inpage disambig).Baggins (talk) 23:55, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the tip :) RalOrtTal (talk) 04:01, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

RE: Aprendix 3

I'm combining all the texts into one single article. Don't worry, the information will be back. --g0urra[T҂C] 18:18, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for the answer. Benitoperezgaldos (talk) 18:25, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Braelyn Firehand

In Quest:Cenarius' Legacy, she mentions being from Jaedenar and a "master", so she appears to be one of the Shadow Council.--SWM2448 01:58, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

How could I miss that?! Sorry for that and thanks for the source :) Benitoperezgaldos (talk) 02:09, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

RE: Refgame template

I don't know about you, but I think that using the template for information from World of Warcraft is redundant; as you know this is wiki is mostly about World of Warcraft, it would be usually used for information from the RTS games and others. --g0urra[T҂C] 15:26, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

More or less, yes. --g0urra[T҂C] 15:43, 31 May 2009 (UTC)