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==Some Speculation on my Part==
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[[Image:Tapoke "Slim" Jahn.jpg|thumb|[[{{PAGENAME}}]]]]
 
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'''Tapoke "Slim" Jahn''' is a level 34 [[quest giver]] located in [[Deepwater Tavern]] in [[Menethil Harbor]], in the [[Alliance]]-aligned zone of [[Wetlands]].
 
   
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It might be interesting to note that the 5 Loa bear some resemblance to the five [[Aspect]]s.
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He starts the quest {{questlong|Alliance|33|The Missing Diplomat}}.
 
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[[Alexstrasza]] and [[Deathwing]] represent two sides of a coin: Life and Death. The red Alextraza could represent the Tiger, while Deathwing is the Panther. [[Malygos]]' favored humanoid form is distinctly insectoid in appearance, connecting him with the spider. [[Ysera]] controlls the domain of sleep and dreams. Sleep is associated with the night, as are nocturnal bats. There is little connection between [[Nozdormu]] and a snake.
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See [[List of Wetlands NPCs]].
 
   
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On a slightly different note, each of the Loa could be the patron of a certain troll race. The [[Jungle Trolls]] would be akin to a tiger. [[Dark Trolls]] to the panther. [[Forest Trolls]] are known to worship a snake goddess, which would connect them to snakes. The capital of the [[Sand Trolls|Sand Troll]] kingdom, [[Zul'Farrak]], is often associated with Spiders. There is little connection between [[Ice Trolls]] and bats.
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[[Category:Humans|Jahn, Tapoke]]
 
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[[Category:Quest Givers|Jahn, Tapoke]]
 
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Of course, this is all speculation on my part, and some of it could be called far-fetched.
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[[Category:Zone:Wetlands|Jahn, Tapoke]]
 
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==Do they die?==
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This might sound stupied but if the players have the chance to kill a Loa God in this case it means that they die for good right? I mean in the lore it wasn't explained if the loas in a sense escape from their fate. the spider loa has a venom which the whitebark trolls obtain could it mean that the trolls kill the spider in a sorts of a ritual? [[User:Manuelwow|Manuelwow]]
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==Amani primal gods==
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Ok I need some clarification, about the names;
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Nalorakk, the Bear
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Akil'zon, the Eagle
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Jan'alai, the Dragonhawk
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Halazzi, the Lynx
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Are these the names of the primal gods, or the names of the trolls channeling the primal gods? Because if its the latter, then those names shouldn't be listed in the loa list. If we don't know the names of the primal gods then that needs to be mentioned.[[User:Baggins|Baggins]] 03:30, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
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I just checked blizzard's offical site for the ZA preview because I remembered a thread on the wow forums asking about this and someone said that the preview mentioned how they were the names of the trolls, though after checking it doesn't seem to specify. The poster mentioned that sense they're imprisioning the gods its unlikely they'd show enough respect to use their names, but without confirmation, I suggest putting a "named presumed" disclaimer by them, or something of the sort.[[User:Tweak the Whacked|Tweak the Whacked]] 08:03, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
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Apparently, and I haven't seen this personally, but the Amani Primal Gods show up in WotLK, and bear the names they have in Zul'Aman. This would lend credence to the idea that these are the names of gods and not names of trolls. --[[User:Zedric|Zedric]] ([[User talk:Zedric|talk]]) 14:44, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
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I can confirm this. After beating the quest "Breaking Through Jin'Alai" in Zul'Drak the gods from Zul'Aman come in their spiritual forms. They are indeed the names of the gods and not the trolls.[[User:Uncle Troll|Uncle Troll]] ([[User talk:Uncle Troll|talk]]) 16:39, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
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==Primal Gods==
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Is [[Hakkar]] controlling the [[Primal Gods]]? When [[Exzhal]] speaks with the Hakkari prisoner, the Zealot tells Exzhal that he will have to face Hakkar, and then after that the Primal Gods. &nbsp;[[User:Rolandius|Rolandius]]&nbsp;[[Image:Wc3Knight.gif|16x16px]]&nbsp;<small>([[User talk:Rolandius|<span title="Rolandius's Talk">talk</span>]]&nbsp;-&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Rolandius|<span title="Rolandius's Contributions">contr</span>]])</small> 04:53, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
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==Darkspear Loa==
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I think it might be too early to speculate at this point, since the sound files have only been datamined, but where would Bwonsamdi and Zentabra fall under in relation to other [[Loa]]? Is it too early to add them to the list of Loa? [[User:Soliden|Soliden]] ([[User talk:Soliden|talk]]) 06:20, March 5, 2010 (UTC)
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:At least because they're datamined, yes, it's too early. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 06:40, March 5, 2010 (UTC)
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:When the patch does drop, if that stuff remains the same, then Bwonsamdi (Baron Samedi) is a Shadow Hunter loa that we have recognized for years. He addresses Vol'jin as Shadow Hunter and is clearly in charge of the dead souls of Trolls (or at least the Darkspear), judging by the audio file. He is the game version of the pen and paper loa, [[Samedi]] finally making an appearance. -- [[User:Uncle Troll|Uncle Troll]] ([[User talk:Uncle Troll|talk]]) 02:44, March 10, 2010 (UTC)
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==Zim' are not loas==
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In fact the guy who asks to asks to deliver offers to them calls them gods and not loas, also they have no phisical animal representation like other loas only statues--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 02:43, April 10, 2010 (UTC)
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==Sul==
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Assumend by [[Antu'sul]] and his quotes, Sul seems to be a bassilisk loa, is anythinjg known about it?[[User:TheSatyr|TheSatyr]] ([[User talk:TheSatyr|talk]]) 21:06, June 30, 2010 (UTC)
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==[[Akil'darah]]==
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[[File:Kotonga-gossip.jpg|thumb]][[File:Totem of Akil'darah.jpg|thumb]][[File:Totem of Akil'darah - Gossip.jpg|thumb]]
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Who is this supposed "eagle" loa? only find vague references to it :S.--[[User:Lon-ami|Lon-ami]] ([[User talk:Lon-ami|talk]]) 17:00, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
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:He seems to share name with the forest troll loa [[Akil'zon]] (who is an eagle too), so the ymight be the same or it is possible Akil'darah is a child of Akil'zon (if loa can have children) or that Akil'darah was a hero/prophet empowered by Akil'zon. You found those mentions in some quests with the Revantusk in Hinterlands right? - [[User:Aedror|Aedror]] ([[User talk:Aedror|talk]]) 17:30, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
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::I don't know, that's why I'm asking xDDD. Searched references to it, but found only some objects here and there, nothing really relevant :S.--[[User:Lon-ami|Lon-ami]] ([[User talk:Lon-ami|talk]]) 18:36, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
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:::I believe i completed a quest in Hinterlands where you are teleported by a shrine of Akil'darah to the top of one of the troll.complexes in that zone. Although i can't find the quest on WoWHead. - [[User:Aedror|Aedror]] ([[User talk:Aedror|talk]]) 18:43, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
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:O_O, no idea about that. Try checking with a flying mount if you're able, please.--[[User:Lon-ami|Lon-ami]] ([[User talk:Lon-ami|talk]]) 18:57, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
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::Just arrived there, i've got the gossip text of a troll named [[Kotonga]] (you need to complete a quest for him to say this) and a picture of the Totem of Akil'darah {{coords|58.7|67.4|Hinterlands}}. - [[User:Aedror|Aedror]] ([[User talk:Aedror|talk]]) 19:22, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

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Some Speculation on my Part

It might be interesting to note that the 5 Loa bear some resemblance to the five Aspects. Alexstrasza and Deathwing represent two sides of a coin: Life and Death. The red Alextraza could represent the Tiger, while Deathwing is the Panther. Malygos' favored humanoid form is distinctly insectoid in appearance, connecting him with the spider. Ysera controlls the domain of sleep and dreams. Sleep is associated with the night, as are nocturnal bats. There is little connection between Nozdormu and a snake.

On a slightly different note, each of the Loa could be the patron of a certain troll race. The Jungle Trolls would be akin to a tiger. Dark Trolls to the panther. Forest Trolls are known to worship a snake goddess, which would connect them to snakes. The capital of the Sand Troll kingdom, Zul'Farrak, is often associated with Spiders. There is little connection between Ice Trolls and bats.

Of course, this is all speculation on my part, and some of it could be called far-fetched.

Do they die?

This might sound stupied but if the players have the chance to kill a Loa God in this case it means that they die for good right? I mean in the lore it wasn't explained if the loas in a sense escape from their fate. the spider loa has a venom which the whitebark trolls obtain could it mean that the trolls kill the spider in a sorts of a ritual? Manuelwow

Amani primal gods

Ok I need some clarification, about the names;

Nalorakk, the Bear Akil'zon, the Eagle Jan'alai, the Dragonhawk Halazzi, the Lynx

Are these the names of the primal gods, or the names of the trolls channeling the primal gods? Because if its the latter, then those names shouldn't be listed in the loa list. If we don't know the names of the primal gods then that needs to be mentioned.Baggins 03:30, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

I just checked blizzard's offical site for the ZA preview because I remembered a thread on the wow forums asking about this and someone said that the preview mentioned how they were the names of the trolls, though after checking it doesn't seem to specify. The poster mentioned that sense they're imprisioning the gods its unlikely they'd show enough respect to use their names, but without confirmation, I suggest putting a "named presumed" disclaimer by them, or something of the sort.Tweak the Whacked 08:03, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Apparently, and I haven't seen this personally, but the Amani Primal Gods show up in WotLK, and bear the names they have in Zul'Aman. This would lend credence to the idea that these are the names of gods and not names of trolls. --Zedric (talk) 14:44, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

I can confirm this. After beating the quest "Breaking Through Jin'Alai" in Zul'Drak the gods from Zul'Aman come in their spiritual forms. They are indeed the names of the gods and not the trolls.Uncle Troll (talk) 16:39, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Primal Gods

Is Hakkar controlling the Primal Gods? When Exzhal speaks with the Hakkari prisoner, the Zealot tells Exzhal that he will have to face Hakkar, and then after that the Primal Gods.  Rolandius Wc3Knight (talk - contr) 04:53, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Darkspear Loa

I think it might be too early to speculate at this point, since the sound files have only been datamined, but where would Bwonsamdi and Zentabra fall under in relation to other Loa? Is it too early to add them to the list of Loa? Soliden (talk) 06:20, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

At least because they're datamined, yes, it's too early. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 06:40, March 5, 2010 (UTC)
When the patch does drop, if that stuff remains the same, then Bwonsamdi (Baron Samedi) is a Shadow Hunter loa that we have recognized for years. He addresses Vol'jin as Shadow Hunter and is clearly in charge of the dead souls of Trolls (or at least the Darkspear), judging by the audio file. He is the game version of the pen and paper loa, Samedi finally making an appearance. -- Uncle Troll (talk) 02:44, March 10, 2010 (UTC)

Zim' are not loas

In fact the guy who asks to asks to deliver offers to them calls them gods and not loas, also they have no phisical animal representation like other loas only statues--Ashbear160 (talk) 02:43, April 10, 2010 (UTC)

Sul

Assumend by Antu'sul and his quotes, Sul seems to be a bassilisk loa, is anythinjg known about it?TheSatyr (talk) 21:06, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

Akil'darah

Kotonga-gossip
Totem of Akil'darah
Totem of Akil'darah - Gossip

Who is this supposed "eagle" loa? only find vague references to it :S.--Lon-ami (talk) 17:00, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

He seems to share name with the forest troll loa Akil'zon (who is an eagle too), so the ymight be the same or it is possible Akil'darah is a child of Akil'zon (if loa can have children) or that Akil'darah was a hero/prophet empowered by Akil'zon. You found those mentions in some quests with the Revantusk in Hinterlands right? - Aedror (talk) 17:30, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
I don't know, that's why I'm asking xDDD. Searched references to it, but found only some objects here and there, nothing really relevant :S.--Lon-ami (talk) 18:36, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
I believe i completed a quest in Hinterlands where you are teleported by a shrine of Akil'darah to the top of one of the troll.complexes in that zone. Although i can't find the quest on WoWHead. - Aedror (talk) 18:43, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
O_O, no idea about that. Try checking with a flying mount if you're able, please.--Lon-ami (talk) 18:57, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
Just arrived there, i've got the gossip text of a troll named Kotonga (you need to complete a quest for him to say this) and a picture of the Totem of Akil'darah [58.7, 67.4]VZ-HinterlandsBlip. - Aedror (talk) 19:22, 20 January 2011 (UTC)