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Sons of Ragnaros

Just some notes, would it be possible to keep some of the Sons banished during the second part of the fight.? and do they die when ragnaros dies ? CJ 07:36, 27 Feb 2006 (EST)

Someone might want to correct the picture of the Firelord from Warcraft III; it's a picture of Ragnoros's uper torso. And about the Sons, I'm not sure about banishing, but I do know that Ragnoros keeps summoning them periodiaccly.

Sons can be banished, but they are considered "dead" by Ragnaros... keep in mind, that Ragnaros emerges again, after either all sons are dead/banished or after 90 seconds toying around with the sons (whatever happens first). I don't think anyone ever did banish the sons until Ragnaros dies - you'll need your full concentration on Raggi and mana user need mana, where the sons have a manaburn aura - if a son breaks free and does not gets banished immediatly, it will go for the healer and burn them quickly.--Thundor 09:48, 26 April 2006 (EDT)

Addition: I've never heard of any "endurance fight" on Ragnaros.. no one I know has ever survived a second sons phase. It's definitely no tactic for beginners or intermediates - a BWL equiped raid might be able to do so, but hey, they should be able to take out Ragnaros before the first wave of sons appears.--Thundor 09:48, 26 April 2006 (EDT)

I've heard from a friend that they actually survived a THIRD sons phase once. Rag was at 1% when the sons spawn occurred, and they were able to kill him afterwards. I'd rather put it as a desperate tactic for beginner raids who are unable to do the DPS to down Rag in two phases. IMO it's easier to muster the survivability than the required DPS --Asherett 17:44, 12 June 2006 (EDT)

My guild Avatars of Discord learned and killed him after second sons phase. We had more trouble doing enough DPS to him than actually killing the sons. We also did sons slightly different, with a majority of ranged dps off to the left so the sons run by, and the tanks and such where they all meet. Bhodi 18:06, 2 October 2006 (EDT)

Banishable?

This comment:

Be aware that Ragnaros considers Banished sons as defeated and can resurface prematurely.

contradicts this comment:

Ragnaros will spawn the second all the sons are dead, so it helps to keep one son at very low health chain banished until Ragnaros emerges on his own, to give the raid time to regenerate.

Which is correct? I'm sick of advice from people who haven't had first-hand experience. One of these statements is correct and the other is a lie. --Davidc 05:49, 15 May 2006 (EDT)

You can't keep the last mob banished, ragnaros will surface. CJ 06:51, 15 May 2006 (EDT)

We had 1 firelord left and banished for at least 10 seconds before Rag surfaced. --Asherett 18:25, 12 July 2006 (EDT)


Additional Ability: Lava Blast

I've witnessed firsthand that 1) ranged DPS can draw aggro on Ragnaros and 2) he responds to this with a fireball-like attack that does about 2500 base fire damage. This attack is called "Lava Blast" in the combat log. (No, not Magma Blast, and not Lava Splash). He targets me (I get aggro warning), fires this attack once, and targets someone else. It happens regularly to me, at least once each fight. I'll take some screenshots next time I see it happen. --Asherett 16:51, 12 June 2006 (EDT)

Nope, this is a "random" attack. CJ 08:23, 3 October 2006 (EDT)


Yes, I can confirm this is similar to baron geddon's mana tick, in which he briefly targets a random person, and dots them, going back to primary aggro. This uses the same RSTS (random secondary targetting system) presumably. "Random unavoidable deaths" may occur since 2.5k fireballs are not friendly

AoE for stage 2

Using Blizzard to kill all the Sons at the same time has worked well for my guild, from the first kill on. Most rogues can hold one in place, while the MT and OT can each hold 2 or 3. Once they are all gathered, it takes only 15 seconds (2 Blizzards per mage) to kill them all at once. It is advisable to pull one out of the aoe for the rest of the 90 seconds in order to regen healer mana before Ragnaros emerges again.

A god?

Is it ok to call him a god. I don't think any official texts call him a god. I mean he has power over fire, the fire elementals worship him, he is immortal. but at the same time he is under the Old Gods. Noman953

You really have a thing about gods. Smiley. Yes, I do believe there are texts that do call him a god...
He's referenced here as a god, and here. Old God status? No. But definitely a God. I'm fairly certain his actual title is Elemental Lieutenant, however. As those pages are from very old times...--Sky 03:08, 23 January 2007 (EST)
Elemental Lord :). But god isn't all wrong, either. He serves that function to most fire elementals, and even elementals of other types recognize that status in their hatred for him. ---- Varghedin Varghedin  talk / contribs 08:03, 23 January 2007 (EST)
Elemental Lieutenants. :P. Just about everywhere on this site they are referenced as Elemental Lieutenants. *cough*consistencyplz*cough*--Sky 13:58, 23 January 2007 (EST)


HP?

How much hp does he have?

see Ragnaros (tactics), please. --Sky (t · c · w) 22:50, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Ragnaros quotes

Most of all he shouts "by fire be purged" or "die insect" and i can clearly understand the starting one "Too soon, you have awakened me too soon Executos, what is the meaning of this......", but i would like to ask you of a particular one, because i've been trying to find something about it and came out empty handed : "Taste the flames of ---------". Whose flames is he talking about ?

Sulfuras or Sulfuron. Theres been much debate over this subject. Most agree he is speaking about his hammer Sulfuras, though for some reason many argue he may be refering to his home in the Firelands, Sulfuron Keep (i.e. feel the might of "fill in random place here"), or that it may be the name of his patron Old God, which is assuming the old gods are paired off one for one to each elemental which no evidence has hinted of and most hints heavily against. Sulfuron Harbinger comes into the discussion but it's unlikely he's refering to a minion of his, ones whose name in wow may just be a title. I hope that answeres your question...i'm gonna go do a little more research on the subject.Warthok Talk Contribs 20:33, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
It's Sulfuron. Like i said theres a debate, most agree its not his minion Sulfuron, but rather his keep, his hammer (meaning a naming error), or his master (pure speculation). The arguement about it being an Old God was fueled by the existance of Sulfuron Harbinger, whom many thought might be a title and not his name, thus the harbinger of sulfuron. Turns out Sulfuron is his true name (little research i just did). So it's probably safest to assume Ragnaros is refering to his keep.Warthok Talk Contribs 21:03, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

That makes sence, nice job, i've been wondering about this a long time ago. Thanks Warthok--Grievous 20:34, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

After his defeat?

What happened lore-wise after his defeat in WoW? I can't imagine he was fully destroyed. Was he sent back to the elemental plane? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Demondan (talk · contr).

Sign your posts. I don't think blizzard has stated it specifically, but I think thats most likely what happened yes. CogHammer Ose talk/3721 16:44, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Chaotic Neutral?

Under "Alignment" it describes Ragnaros as Chaotic Neutral. Is this true? I always assumed he was chaotic evil. User:DScharff24/Sig 19:50, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Meh, I've never liked D&D alignments anyway. Ragnaros doesn't behave very neutral to me, more, as you say, chaotic evil, if any alignment is to be set. However, CN seems to be the official, so I guess there is little to do about it. INV Misc Orb 04Xavius, the Satyr Lord 20:04, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Just an Avatar?

"Ragnaros is still alive, as players are only able to slay a weakened avatar." Quoted from Old Gods speculation.
Can someone confirm this? I don't see any mention regarding this in Ragnaros' page. --Malygos (talk) 14:30, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

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