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| + | == 2 times the same organization == |
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| + | I have a question; can u add an organization at two places on this page? Example: the Rot Hide Gnolls are placed under the gnoll tribe part, but theyr are also a part of the sqourge, can i add them under both? [[User:Aedror42|Aedror42]] ([[User talk:Aedror42|talk]]) 18:05, 1 June 2009 (UTC) |
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| + | :I believe no. So the question is: Are the Rot Hide Gnolls more Scourge than Gnoll, or the contrary? |
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| − | A '''quest''' is a task given to a [[player character]] that yields a [[Quest#Quest_rewards|reward]] when completed. Most quests are given by by an [[NPC]] (non-player character). However, some quests can come from right-clicking signs (usually the [[wanted poster]] type), reading scrolls or documents, opening containers, using certain looted items (which will say "Begins a quest" on the tooltip when moused over), or from completing a previous quest (chain quest). Until you reach the maximum level, a quest will also reward you with [[Experience point|Experience Points]] (XP). After that, you will receive gold instead. Most quests will also reward you with [[reputation]] from the same faction as the NPC quest giver. |
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| + | :{{User:A'noob/sig}} 18:13, 1 June 2009 (UTC) |
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| + | ::They are Scourge. [[User:Rolandius|Rolandius]] [[Image:Paladin.gif|25px]] <small>([[User talk:Rolandius|<span title="Rolandius's Talk">talk</span>]] - [[Special:Contributions/Rolandius|<span title="Rolandius's Contributions">contr</span>]])</small> 10:51, 26 July 2009 (UTC) |
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| − | The [[:Category:Quests|Quests category]] has articles on many specific quests. This list may not be as comprehensive as database sites like [[Allakhazam]], [[Thottbot]], or [[Wowhead]], but the wiki quest articles have the advantage of being a summary of information on a quest, as opposed to a long list of sometimes conflicting or old comments added to the raw quest data. |
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| + | == the "s" == |
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| − | New quests can be added to WoWWiki by reading [[Help:Creating a quest article|Creating a quest article]], using the [[Help:Quest articles|Quest Boilerplate]] to record the details and adding categories for the starting zone, obtainable at level (e.g. [[:Category:Quests at 18|Quests at 18]]) and other [[WoWWiki:Categories|categories]] as appropriate. Then update the main zone quest guide page, and any pages for the quest giver or starting item. |
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| + | I removed some "s" in order to fit to this: |
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| − | There are currently more than 8,000 quests in ''World of Warcraft''.<ref>http://www.wowhead.com/?quests</ref> The initial design had only 100 [[horde]] quests, 100 [[alliance]] quests and 100 [[neutral]] quests planned for the whole game.<ref>http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=23425526660&pageNo=3&sid=1#50</ref> |
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| + | * If the Chieftains are listed in order of time => "Chieftain:" |
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| + | * If the Chieftains are working coinjoinly => "Chieftains:" |
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| + | Also apply to every over titles we used. |
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| − | For a complete list of quests available, see the [[:Category:Quests by level]] page. |
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| + | Like it ? |
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| + | {{User:A'noob/sig}} 12:15, 5 June 2009 (UTC) |
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| − | == Starting out == |
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| − | [[File:quest point.png|left]] |
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| − | {{seealso|List of quest areas}} |
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| + | : I think that sounds like a great idea, 'cause that helps when keeping track on the leaders. [[User:Aedror42|Aedror42]] ([[User talk:Aedror42|talk]]) 12:18, 5 June 2009 (UTC) |
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| − | Depending on your [[race]] you will [[Newbie_Guide#Starting_Areas|start in a different geographical region]] with some common quests and some [[race]]/[[class]]-specific quests with several low-level creatures around and a limited number of [[NPC]]s. Many of the quests in ''World of Warcraft'' are single-step, but there will often be multiple followup quests that turn into a long quest series. |
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| + | == † == |
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| − | Many NPCs can offer you more than one quest; when talking to them, you'll get a window giving you the option to select which quest you wish to talk to them about, using the same symbols as appear over their heads. To find out the quest or the status of an uncompleted quest, [[talk]] to the NPC with a quest status indicator. Occasionally as you adventure in Azeroth, you may encounter [[drop]]ped or [[Fixed Device|fixed]] items that will give out quests when activated (right-clicked). |
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| + | How about a dagger (†) for the deceased leader of an Organization? (only the lore-confirmed ones) |
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| + | Like: |
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| − | Try to get and finish all the quests in a given geographic locale before moving on to a higher-level area with new quests. The reason for this is that other quests may send you in different directions and into other map areas. By the time you get back to the original quest track, the quests have gone gray. They can still be accomplished, but any items received will be below your current level, the XP will be much less helpful, and the cash, if any, will be small change compared to the amounts you are currently bringing in from looting and selling [[vendor trash]] items. However, if it is a member of a long quest chain, it may be worth completing gray quests, because later ones may be for your level or even for above your level. |
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| + | * [[Church of the Holy Light]] - Archbishop: [[Alonsus Faol]]†, [[Archbishop Benedictus|Benedictus]] |
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| − | == Identifying quest givers == |
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| + | * [[Clerics of Northshire]] - Archbishop: [[Alonsus Faol]] † |
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| − | [[File:Quest giver on mini-map.png|frame|''Quest givers appear on the mini-map'']] |
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| + | * [[Warsong clan]] - Chieftain: [[Grom Hellscream]] †, [[Garrosh Hellscream]] |
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| − | [[File:Quest completed on mini-map.png|frame|''Quest complete turn-in appears on the mini-map'']] |
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| + | * [[Wildhammer clan]] - Chieftain: [[Khardros Wildhammer|Khardros]]†, [[Kurdran Wildhammer|Kurdran]], [[Maz Drachrip]], [[Falstad Wildhammer|Falstad]] |
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| − | :''See also: [[:Category:Quest givers]]'' |
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| − | You can identify quest giving [[NPC]]s from indicators over their heads: |
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| + | {{User:A'noob/sig}} 11:07, 19 June 2009 (UTC) |
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| − | * A gold exclamation point ([[File:Quest Avail 16x16.png]]) indicates an available quest. |
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| − | ** Since [[Patch 2.3]], the [[File:Quest Avail 16x16.png]] marker will also show up on the [[minimap]] (see upper image to the right). |
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| − | * A silver exclamation point ([[File:Quest Future 16x16.png]]) indicates a quest that will be available when you gain a few levels. This is not on the minimap. |
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| − | * A gold question mark ([[File:Quest Complete 16x16.png]]) indicates a completed quest (you have met its requirements). In the past, they would appear as a yellow dot ([[File:Resource blip 16x12.png]]) on the minimap, but this was easily confused with other detectable things. |
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| − | ** Since Patch 2.3, the [[File:Quest Complete 16x16.png]] marker will also show up on the minimap (see lower image to the right). |
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| − | * A silver question mark ([[File:Quest Incomplete 16x16.png]]) indicates an in-progress (un-completed) quest that you still have requirements to meet. |
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| − | * A blue exclamation point ([[File:RRQ Avail 16x16.png]]) or question mark ([[File:RRQ Complete 16x16.png]]) indicates that that NPC has a [[Repeatable reputation quest|repeatable quest]] available. These type of quests are usually meant as a means of gaining reputation with a certain faction, as a reward and xp is only given the first time the quest is completed. After that, xp gained is much lower and there is often no reward but a certain amount of reputation for the respected faction. |
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| + | : That sounds like a good idea, cuase then it'll be easier to see who is the current leader and such :p [[User:Aedror42|Aedror42]] ([[User talk:Aedror42|talk]]) 15:00, 21 June 2009 (UTC) |
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| − | Also as of patch 2.3, you can identify quest givers by the pointer change when you move it over them: |
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| − | :[[File:pointer quest on 32x32.png]] ''interact with quest giver'' [[File:pointer quest off 32x32.png]] ''quest giver out of range'' |
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| − | Also as of [[patch 2.3.2]], you can identify quest enders (completed quest) by the pointer change when you move it over them: |
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| − | :[[File:pointer questdone on 32x32.png]] ''interact with quest ender'' [[File:pointer questdone off 32x32.png]] ''quest ender out of range'' |
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| + | == Ships? == |
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| − | If you have completed a quest but you might not want to turn it in yet (because your bags are full, for instance), you can return to it later at any time. However, until you turn it in, the quest ender will comtinue to display a gold question mark ([[File:Quest Complete 16x16.png]]), so you will not know if they have a new quest for you until you turn it the completed quest or speak to them as if to turn it in. |
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| + | I can see that some ships were added on the list of organizations, but i don't think we can call those ships for organizations. [[User:Aedror42|Aedror42]] ([[User talk:Aedror42|talk]]) 21:27, 28 June 2009 (UTC) |
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| + | :Yeah, I had a doubt, can a Crew consider itself an organisation? brotherhood and all that crap. |
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| − | === Low level quests === |
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| + | :But that's maybe going too far |
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| − | If a quest is considered too low level for your character (if it will have a gray color in your log), it will be much less visible. By default, an exclamation point ([[File:Quest Avail 16x16.png]]) will not appear above the quest giver's head, nor will one appear on the minimap without an extra step (see below). Since [[Patch 2.3]], the quest title in the quest giver's talk window will also be tagged "(Low Level)". In some cases the first step of a quest chain will have this quality; however, the later steps may even be red in some cases, so it may be well worth doing any such quest. It is up to the player to decide. |
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| + | :{{User:A'noob/sig}} 21:52, 28 June 2009 (UTC) |
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| + | ::Yeah think that it's going to far... lets just stick to what we are sure can be called organizations. |
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| − | Before [[Patch 3.0.2]], a low-level quest could be discovered only by mousing over (or interacting with) its quest giver. Since 3.0.2, selecting "Low Level Quests" on the minimap radar will display exclamation points ([[File:Quest Avail 16x16.png]]) for every available quest, including those considered "low level". This also causes a dull exclamation point to appear over NPCs offering low-level quests. |
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| + | :: [[User:Aedror42|Aedror42]] ([[User talk:Aedror42|talk]]) 21:55, 28 June 2009 (UTC) |
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| + | :::If it was a group in lore then it would count like the "Kul Tiras Third Fleet" I would think. Similiar to how the "7th Legion" is a group. [[User:Rolandius|Rolandius]] [[Image:Paladin.gif|25px]] <small>([[User talk:Rolandius|<span title="Rolandius's Talk">talk</span>]] - [[Special:Contributions/Rolandius|<span title="Rolandius's Contributions">contr</span>]])</small> 03:28, 29 June 2009 (UTC) |
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| − | == Quest types == |
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| − | In ''World of Warcraft'', quests are separated into several broad categories: |
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| + | ::::Or [[Guild:The First Fleet (Eonar US)|Stormwind's FIRST Fleet]] :X {{User:Toran Wildpaw of the Frenzyheart/Sig}} 19:14, 10 July 2009 (UTC) |
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| − | * Solo quests — the most common kind |
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| − | * Group quests — suggested for more than 1 player |
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| − | * Dungeon quests — objective of the quest is inside an instance |
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| − | * Raid quests — objective of the quest is inside a raid instance or involves a raid boss |
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| − | * Heroic quests — objective of the quest is inside an instance in Heroic mode |
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| − | * PvP quests — quests that require you to complete them while flagged for PvP |
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| − | * Repeatable quests — can be soloable or for groups with the primary intention to boost reputation with a faction |
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| − | * Daily quests — special repeatable type of solo quest introduced in {{bc-inline}} [[Burning Crusade]] for those at the level cap to primarily generate money, but changed in {{wotlk-inline}} to be used more as an RRQ also |
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| − | * Seasonal quests — available only for limited periods of time and often related to events or holidays |
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| + | :::::That is a guild. [[User:Rolandius|Rolandius]] [[Image:Paladin.gif|25px]] <small>([[User talk:Rolandius|<span title="Rolandius's Talk">talk</span>]] - [[Special:Contributions/Rolandius|<span title="Rolandius's Contributions">contr</span>]])</small> 03:00, 17 July 2009 (UTC) |
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| − | === Solo quests === |
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| − | Most quests are intended to be completed by a single player, but depending on the quest, different classes may have differing levels of difficulty completing quests. |
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| + | ==Organization?== |
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| − | === Group quests === |
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| + | Many of these don't look to me to be organizations. |
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| − | In the quest text a group quest will have a recommended number of players to complete this type of quest. These number estimates are conservative and some 2 player quests can be easily soloed while others may be slightly difficult with given number of players. Many quests recommending 3-4 players can be done with 2 players. |
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| + | #Anvilar clan does not have a source or article and Modimus Anvilmar was part of the Ironforge clan anyway. |
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| + | #Hammersmith clan does not have a source or article. |
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| + | #Lordaeron remnants is not a proper name. |
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| + | #Sister of steel is a class in the RPG. |
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| + | #Wizard's Sanctum is a "building" that houses the "Academy of Arcane Arts and Sciences". |
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| + | #Frostwolf clan is multi-race? |
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| + | #Outcasts does not have any source. |
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| + | #Sect of the Dragons is the name of a religion like "geomancy" or "druidism" and not like "Cult of the Damned" or "Church of the Holy Light". |
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| + | #Shadowforge citiziens is not spelled correctly and is not an organization just like citizens of other settlements do not automatically make them a organization. |
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| + | #Boiling Spirits does not have a source or article. |
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| + | #Enraged Tempests does not have a source or article. |
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| + | #Elemental Lord is a title. |
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| + | #Raging Boilers does not have a source. |
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| + | #Outland colossi does not have a source and there are many colossi "leaders" on Outland not just Behemothon and Goliathon. |
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| + | #Dolomite Giant is a mob. |
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| + | #Crystalline Ice Giant is a mob. |
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| + | #Iron giant is a race. |
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| + | #Molten giant is a race. |
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| + | #Storm giant is a race. |
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| + | #Nesingwary Base Camp is a location. |
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| + | #Arkkoran tribe does not exist as they are part of a multi-race group called [[Arkkoran]]. |
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| + | #Temple of Ahn'Qiraj garnison is not spelled correctly and does not have a source or article. |
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| + | #Death knights of Acherus is not a proper name. |
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| + | #Void has no source or article. |
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| + | #Sifreldar is a location. |
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| + | #Iron vrykul is a race. |
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| + | #Dun Morogh Wendigo is a mob. |
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| + | [[User:Rolandius|Rolandius]] [[Image:Paladin.gif|25px]] <small>([[User talk:Rolandius|<span title="Rolandius's Talk">talk</span>]] - [[Special:Contributions/Rolandius|<span title="Rolandius's Contributions">contr</span>]])</small> 03:44, 17 July 2009 (UTC) |
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| − | Previously called an "elite" quest. |
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| + | :#[[Hjalmar Anvilmar]] is described has "Last patriarch of the Anvilmars", that would make them a clan/organization |
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| − | === Dungeon quests === |
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| + | :#Hammersmith removed |
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| − | Requires an objective inside an instance. Other than that they can be similar to solo and group quests. |
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| + | :#Lordaeron remnants article is flagged for a check, but still it exists |
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| + | :#[[Sister of steel]] states "The sisters of steel are just such a group of female blacksmiths." |
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| + | :#Agreed. |
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| + | :#Visit them in Alterac, you'll find that they opened to Tauren and other races. |
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| + | :#Agreed, the [[Centaur Pariah]] never mentions that a group follow him. |
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| + | :#I fail to see why/how it is differen from the Cult of the Damned or the Church of Holy Light. |
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| + | :#Agreed. |
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| + | :#The quest related to them say they are a group lead by Churn. |
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| + | :#Same thing as Boiling Spirits. |
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| + | :#A tittle, but also the group of 4 under command of the Old Gods. |
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| + | :#Same thing as Boiling Spirits. |
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| + | :#Only the ones tagged "King" are listed. |
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| + | :#[[Dolomite Giant]]s act toghether and are not listed under any faction (except that they aid the earthen). |
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| + | :#Same thing as Dolomite Giant. |
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| + | :#Same thing as Dolomite Giant. |
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| + | :#Same thing as Dolomite Giant. |
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| + | :#Same thing as Dolomite Giant. |
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| + | :#So are the [[Nesingwary Safari]] and [[Nesingwary's Expedition]], but we have no name/article for the hunting team they are. |
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| + | :#[[Arkkoran]], we put "tribe" to have all the listed organizations of a race have "the same format". |
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| + | :#How would you name the Qiraji group dwelling in AQ? |
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| + | :#[[Death knights of Acherus]] is the name used by the [[Lich King]] and [[Darion Mograine]] all along of the death kinght starting zone. How is it not a proper name? |
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| + | :#Removed. |
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| + | :#Sifreldar is a group of female frost vrykul opposed to the group of Hyldnir. |
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| + | :#Same thing as Dolomite Giant. |
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| + | :#Same thing as Dolomite Giant. |
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| + | :Note that for some of the organizations, it list to a place or a mob, that's a placeholder while we create a proper article. |
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| − | === Raid quests === |
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| + | :{{User:A'noob/sig}} 10:53, 17 July 2009 (UTC) |
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| − | Requires an objective inside a raid instance or involving an outdoor raid boss. Besides the Heroic quests, these are the hardest types of quests to complete for players of the recommended level range. |
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| + | ::#So the Ironforge clan became the Anvilmar clan? I thought [[Modimus Anvilmar]] was the leader of the Ironforge clan which ruled the Bronzebeard, Wildhammer, and Dark Iron clans? |
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| − | === Heroic quests === |
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| + | ::#Okay |
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| − | For non-raiders, these are the hardest quests as they require completion inside a Heroic mode, non-raid instance. These are the hardest types of non-raid quests to complete for players of the recommended level range. These quests can also be a variant of a daily quest which tends to be slightly easier. |
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| + | ::#Okay |
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| + | ::#I guess? I thought they were just a class. |
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| + | ::#Okay |
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| + | ::#Their article says orc clan. |
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| + | ::#Okay |
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| + | ::#Well to me it is more like the "Ancients of the Night Elves" religion versus those other two which are organizations also. Those other two are actually groups with a hiearchy, leaders, an entry in the RPG as organizations, etc. Sect of the Dragons says it is just a faith, not an organization with a headquarters, hiearchy, etc. |
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| + | ::#Okay |
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| + | ::#If a quest says that then okay. The group's name is not known though and [[Boiling Spirit]] is only one mob. |
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| + | ::#If a quest says that then okay. The group's name is not known though and [[Enraged Tempest]] is only one mob. |
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| + | ::#I guess? |
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| + | ::#If a quest says that then okay. The group's name is not known though and [[Raging Boiler]] is only one mob. |
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| + | ::#"Outland colossi" though is just a description like "Outland makrura". |
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| + | ::#[[Dolomite Giant]]s is just one mob though. If we made an organization out of them then every mob would be an organization. |
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| + | ::#[[Crystalline Ice Giant]] is just one mob though, the other being called [[Ravaged Crystalline Ice Giant]]. If we made an organization out of them then every mob would be an organization. |
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| + | ::#Iron giant is a race like I said earlier. |
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| + | ::#Molten giant is a race like I said earlier. |
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| + | ::#Storm giant is a race like I said earlier. |
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| + | ::#I guess? Yet, [[Nesingwary Safari]] has the name in a few mobs' title in Nagrand and [[Nesingwary's Expedition]] is an expedition group. |
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| + | ::#I guess? |
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| + | ::#I don't know what their name is or if they have a name but I don't think it is "Temple of Ahn'Qiraj garnison". |
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| + | ::#If it was a proper name wouldn't it be spelled "Death Knights of Acherus"? For instance, "[[Order of the Knights of the Silver Hand]]" is not spelled "Order of the knights of the Silver Hand". |
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| + | ::#Okay |
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| + | ::#Sifreldar Village does not mention anything about a group called "Sifreldar" though. |
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| + | ::#Iron vrykul is a race like I said earlier. |
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| + | ::#"Dun Morogh Wendigo" does not even have one mob named that. The closest is [[Wendigo]] and [[Young Wendigo]]. |
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| + | ::Those are my replies. [[User:Rolandius|Rolandius]] [[Image:Paladin.gif|25px]] <small>([[User talk:Rolandius|<span title="Rolandius's Talk">talk</span>]] - [[Special:Contributions/Rolandius|<span title="Rolandius's Contributions">contr</span>]])</small> 11:39, 17 July 2009 (UTC) |
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| − | === PvP quests === |
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| − | These quests require players complete them while flagged for PvP and usually in a PvP battleground or zone. These quests can also be a variant of a daily quest which may be tied to a specific battleground or can be very tedious and often are ignored by PvP oriented players. |
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| + | :1. Ironforge clan leaded Bronzebeard, Wildhammer and Dark Iron, but after the fall, what happened? Not source anywhere except that mention "Last patriarch of the Anvilmars", inducing that they may have become an "Anvilmar clan". |
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| + | :6. The infobox says so yes, but look at the [[Frostwolf clan#Members| Members]] sub-part. |
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| + | :15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 26. This is (imo) the concept of [[Kvaldir|Kvaldir clan]] on which we had a word already. |
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| + | :20. That makes one organization per expedition/expansion. |
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| + | :22. I renamed them Temple of Ahn'Qiraj Qiraji, since in fact they only live in it. |
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| + | :23. "Death knight of Acherus" is said so by Darion Mograine, no correction from the person who quoted him. See [[Darion Mograine#At Battle for Light's Hope Chapel]]. |
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| + | :25. Do you then contest Valkyrion as a gruop too? |
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| + | :27. "Dun Morogh Wendigo" is a bit like the Elwynn kobolds on which we are currently discussing. |
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| + | :{{User:A'noob/sig}} 12:18, 17 July 2009 (UTC) |
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| − | Most quests are of the standard type ([[File:Quest Avail 16x16.png]]). However, some can be repeated indefinitely (or at least until some maximum is hit) and can be identified by the blue [[File:RRQ Avail 16x16.png]] or [[File:RRQ Complete 16x16.png]] over the head of the [[Quest Giver|quest giver]] whether or not you have the requisite items. The symbol remains a blue [[File:RRQ Complete 16x16.png]] after you turn it in again. Such repeatable quests are quite frequently begun by a normal quest, and once you've completed that quest it appears as is described. |
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| + | ::1. That is what I was pointing out. Did they eventually become the "Anvilmar clan"? Also, "Last patriarch of the Anvilmars" does not exactly mean it has to be a clan. It could mean he was the last of his family. Not every family is a clan or else there would be a clan for every named dwarf. |
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| − | Most repeatable quests are repeatable reputation quests ([[RRQ]]s) for increasing your reputation with a particular [[faction]]. See the [[Reputation#What_are_the_Repeatable_Reputation_Quests_.28RRQs.29.3F|What are the Repeatable Reputation Quests section]] of the [[Reputation]] page for a list. Contrary to the type of quest described just above, for example, the [[Timbermaw]] [[furbolg]]s of [[Felwood]] and [[Winterspring]] want you to prove to them that you're on their side. In this case, each time you turn in the quest, rather than having a blue question mark, you get a familiar gold exclamation point. |
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| + | ::6. I guess so. |
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| + | ::15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 26. Okay, if all those are races are also clans, I guess they would be organizations. |
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| + | ::20. Except there are only two leaders. Correct me if I am wrong, but the son heads the Stranglethorn Vale group and the father is found in both Nagrand and Sholozar Basin but moved from Nagrand to Sholazar Basin "lore wise". |
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| + | ::22. Actually, they are not the only ones who live in it, but okay. |
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| + | ::23. I guess. |
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| + | ::25. Where does it say Valkyrion is a group? I have heard of the "Val'kyr race" but not the Valkyrion organization. |
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| + | ::27. Except in the "Elwynn kobolds" case there a lot of mobs and they have sort of like titles/jobs after their names and in the "Dun Morogh wendigo" case I only see two mobs: One called "Wendigo" and the other "Young Wendigo". |
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| + | :: [[User:Rolandius|Rolandius]] [[Image:Paladin.gif|25px]] <small>([[User talk:Rolandius|<span title="Rolandius's Talk">talk</span>]] - [[Special:Contributions/Rolandius|<span title="Rolandius's Contributions">contr</span>]])</small> 12:52, 17 July 2009 (UTC) |
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| − | The [[Darkmoon Faire]] has special repeatable quests that both increase reputation and allow you to collect tickets for rewards. |
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| + | ==Cleanup== |
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| − | Technically these quests cannot be done indefinitely, since they stop appearing if a reputation maximum is reached. |
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| + | I am going to clean up this article if no one else wants to. One mob, a village, etc. does not make up an organization the way, I think, users see an organization. [[User:Rolandius|Rolandius]] [[Image:Paladin.gif|25px]] <small>([[User talk:Rolandius|<span title="Rolandius's Talk">talk</span>]] - [[Special:Contributions/Rolandius|<span title="Rolandius's Contributions">contr</span>]])</small> 07:30, 26 July 2009 (UTC) |
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| + | :Why don't you talk before doing this? |
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| − | === Daily quests === |
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| + | :Many thing you removed are organizations |
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| − | :''See also: [[Daily quest]]'' or [[:Category:Daily quests]]'' |
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| + | :{{User:A'noob/sig}} 10:38, 26 July 2009 (UTC) |
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| + | ::I did talk about it above. Some of them are still on here. [[User:Rolandius|Rolandius]] [[Image:Paladin.gif|25px]] <small>([[User talk:Rolandius|<span title="Rolandius's Talk">talk</span>]] - [[Special:Contributions/Rolandius|<span title="Rolandius's Contributions">contr</span>]])</small> 10:45, 26 July 2009 (UTC) |
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| − | [[Daily quest]]s are a sub-type of repeatable quests that you may only do once per 24 hours. The exact reset hour depends on the realm, but it never changes, is chosen to be in the early AM, and will not coincide with the instance reset. Each character has a limit of 25 quests of this type they can do a day. |
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| + | :You consider some as non-organizations, such as the Molten Giants lead by Golemagg for Ragnaros. I think you're wrong, but my opinion does not make it all, bring people on this talk page, until there is only both of us here, let it like it is. |
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| − | Daily quests come in normal, cooking, fishing, heroic, and PvP subtypes. |
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| + | :{{User:A'noob/sig}} 10:51, 26 July 2009 (UTC) |
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| + | ::Okay, I will leave it as is. I just don't think villages, single mobs, races, etc. are all going to be organizations as we know them in Warcraft. I also don't understand why it is so easy to just add anything but then when trying to cleanup Gourra reverts it all instead of looking at what is added also. [[User:Rolandius|Rolandius]] [[Image:Paladin.gif|25px]] <small>([[User talk:Rolandius|<span title="Rolandius's Talk">talk</span>]] - [[Special:Contributions/Rolandius|<span title="Rolandius's Contributions">contr</span>]])</small> 10:53, 26 July 2009 (UTC) |
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| − | Another limitation is that you may perform only 25 of this variety of quest per day. This may |
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| − | force you to choose among those daily quests available to you. The number of daily quests you |
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| − | In {{bc-inline}} [[Burning Crusade]] most quests of this type appear with the standard marker ([[File:Quest Avail 16x16.png]]), regardless of how often you do them, but in {{wotlk-inline}} [[Wrath of the Lich King]] several quest appear with the RRQ marker ([[File:RRQ Avail 16x16.png]]) that count against your daily quest limit. |
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| + | :Because you remove without a talk, choosing that you are right. |
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| − | === Seasonal quests === |
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| + | :Not to mention the fact that you got him on your back because of your "past activities". |
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| − | :''See also: [[Event]]'' or [[:Category:Events]]'' |
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| + | :{{User:A'noob/sig}} 10:57, 26 July 2009 (UTC) |
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| − | {{main|Event}} |
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| + | ::Well I have been on here awhile. I am pretty sure, through my experiences and what admins have even told me, that not all of these are organizations. [[User:Rolandius|Rolandius]] [[Image:Paladin.gif|25px]] <small>([[User talk:Rolandius|<span title="Rolandius's Talk">talk</span>]] - [[Special:Contributions/Rolandius|<span title="Rolandius's Contributions">contr</span>]])</small> 10:58, 26 July 2009 (UTC) |
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| − | Seasonal quests are available during short time (from one day to two weeks) at special time of year. They can be both normal and daily; some normal quests can be repeatable during the next season. |
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| + | ==Recent edits== |
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| − | == Quest variations == |
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| + | Concerning the recent edits, that might have been nice to discuss them before. |
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| − | :''See also: [[:Category:Escort quests]]'' |
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| + | I (personnaly) have always seen this article as a full list of the organizations we can find in the Warcraft Universe, so why: |
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| − | Most standard quest tasks take one of the following forms with a variety of [[quest objective]]s: |
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| + | *resume Tauren as a link to Tauren Tribes and only one clan; when the Dwarves are almost fully listed |
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| + | *some clans that were removed are worth to be listed here first (Frostwolf for exemple). |
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| + | And, there is no "New Horde", this has already been discussed and explained before: this is one Horde at another stage of its existence. |
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| − | * '''''Gather''' a number of [[item]]s'' and return them to the quest giver or some other [[NPC]]. |
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| − | * '''''Kill''' a number of [[creature]]s'' and return to the quest giver or another NPC. |
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| − | * '''''Deliver''' an item (usually a letter or a package) or some items'' from the quest giver to another NPC. |
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| − | * ''Kill a number of creatures, '''loot''' a single quest item or several quest items from them'', and return with the quest item(s) to the quest giver or another NPC. |
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| − | * ''Use a '''[[profession]]''' to acquire or make a single or several items'' and return with the item(s) to the quest giver or another NPC. |
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| − | * '''''Escort''' an NPC from one place to another'', usually through a dangerous area. |
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| − | ** Many quests that involve escorting an NPC through an area full of mobs can be quite difficult to do alone. "The Defias Traitor" quest in [[Westfall]] is one such example, as is the [[Forsaken]] quest in [[Silverpine Forest]] "Escorting Erland." The NPCs of those quests are suicidal hotshots who engage each enemy within a 10-yard radius despite your directive to keep them alive, leaving you to save them from themselves as well as all the other mobs attempting to eat both of you. In addition, many escort quests have scripted events where a number of enemies will spawn right in front of you, forcing you to fight them at once. Failing these quests occurs commonly, but you can easily abandon it and start over. Or, in some cases, if you find yourself overwhelmed during quests like these, abandon the quest and run away as far as you can, and try it again when you are at a higher level or have some backup coming with you. "The Defias Traitor" is notorious as a favored target for Horde attacks, which simply extends the duration of the quest (and, in some cases, necessitates a complete restart of the quest). |
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| − | ** Some players find Escort quests extremely annoying due to the fact that the NPC almost always walks, regardless of the reason for the escort (even when you are escorting an NPC during an escape, they only run if they are moving to attack something). |
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| − | * '''''Find and speak''' to an NPC, which usually leads to a subsequent quest.'' When such quests are designed to have the sole purpose of leading a player from one zone to another, they are known as ''Bread Crumb Quests''<ref>{{ref web |
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| − | * ''Build and/or maintain a level of '''[[reputation]]''' with a specific [[faction]].'' |
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| − | * ''Find a container item, loot an item in it that gives you a '''follow-up quest'''.'' |
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| − | * '''''Explore''' a particular region or area'' and return to the quest giver or some other NPC. |
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| + | Imo, we have lost concistency, we should revert this, and discuss the form in a sandbox before '''maiming''' this article. |
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| − | NOTE: Some quests have a time limit, which is counted down in a clock that appears under the mini-map. |
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| + | {{User:A'noob/sig}} 14:48, 21 March 2011 (UTC) |
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| − | == Quest rewards == |
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| − | {{seealso|Reputation}} |
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| + | :Well i'll try to explain |
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| − | Most [[reward]]s take the form of [[item]]s or [[money]], but some quests (especially [[class]]-specific ones) give [[Ability|abilities]] or [[spell]]s. Some of the more desirable reward items include {{quality|Uncommon|uncommon}} [[quality]] or better items or [[recipe]]s for use with [[profession]]s. All quests tend to include [[XP]] as part of the reward, although some repeatable reputation quests do not reward XP. |
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| + | :*Botched editing, it was a big list, i have no problems with readding them like the dwarven examples |
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| + | :The new horde i just called it to differentiate from the Dark horde and the fel horde,but i'll just post repost it as the hosrde better idea. |
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| + | :There is consistency, no need to revert it now, tell me your problems case by case and i'll solve them at the first oppurtunity--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 14:57, 21 March 2011 (UTC) |
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| + | :Also there are probably a lot of typos my keyboard is getting knackered and has a over-sensitive S button--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 14:59, 21 March 2011 (UTC) |
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| + | ::Why remove all Tauren clans, add a link to Tauren Tribes and leave only one clan; when the Dwarves are almost fully listed? |
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| − | Additional notes: |
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| + | ::Why remove the Independant section? This make you duplicate all the horde/alliance organizations |
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| − | * Some quests allow you to choose among reward items. |
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| + | ::{{User:A'noob/sig}} 15:08, 21 March 2011 (UTC) |
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| + | :::Like i said Botched editing, it happens when there is a huge amount of information, i'm going to fix that in 2 hours(it was a big list and i need some rest and i have driving classes), you're free to fix anything that you see has a problem would really help too. |
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| − | * Most reward items will be bind on pickup, also known as [[Soulbound]]. |
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| + | :::What missing to be done: |
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| + | :::*Organize alphabeticly |
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| + | :::*Correct typos |
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| + | :::*Add missing from list(a lot of them need to be added that weren't on the older list) |
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| + | :::*Discuss problems |
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| + | :::That's a problem to fix too and i'm going to fix them.--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 15:15, 21 March 2011 (UTC) |
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| + | :::Just don't revert while i'm gone, please.--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 15:19, 21 March 2011 (UTC) |
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| + | :Like I said, might be a good improvement or not, but on such a big work you should have made it in a sandbox before. |
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| − | * The completion of quests will also impact your reputation with particular factions, which can have further beneficial effects such as cheaper prices at vendors and access to special vendors such as mounts. |
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| + | :{{User:A'noob/sig}} 15:25, 21 March 2011 (UTC) |
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| + | :I didn't remember that i could do a sandbox first, but at least coobra liked the alliance and horde section that i did yesterday--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 15:31, 21 March 2011 (UTC) |
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| − | * Some reward items may not be usable by your character (based on [[class]] usually). |
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| + | ::Actually, it'd be more reasonable if we revert it to the original state, then '''you''' can discuss and edit on a sandbox ([[Organization/sandbox]]) to what you think it should be. It doesn't look good when you edit it piece-by-piece - come up with a draft first, and we'll go from there. --{{User:Gourra/Sig2}} 15:32, 21 March 2011 (UTC) |
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| + | :::I also see he asked you to ask other people xD |
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Revision as of 15:33, 21 March 2011
2 times the same organization
I have a question; can u add an organization at two places on this page? Example: the Rot Hide Gnolls are placed under the gnoll tribe part, but theyr are also a part of the sqourge, can i add them under both? Aedror42 (talk) 18:05, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
- I believe no. So the question is: Are the Rot Hide Gnolls more Scourge than Gnoll, or the contrary?
Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 18:13, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
the "s"
I removed some "s" in order to fit to this:
- If the Chieftains are listed in order of time => "Chieftain:"
- If the Chieftains are working coinjoinly => "Chieftains:"
Also apply to every over titles we used.
Like it ?
Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 12:15, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
- I think that sounds like a great idea, 'cause that helps when keeping track on the leaders. Aedror42 (talk) 12:18, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
†
How about a dagger (†) for the deceased leader of an Organization? (only the lore-confirmed ones)
Like:
- Church of the Holy Light - Archbishop: Alonsus Faol†, Benedictus
- Clerics of Northshire - Archbishop: Alonsus Faol †
- Warsong clan - Chieftain: Grom Hellscream †, Garrosh Hellscream
- Wildhammer clan - Chieftain: Khardros†, Kurdran, Maz Drachrip, Falstad
Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 11:07, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
- That sounds like a good idea, cuase then it'll be easier to see who is the current leader and such :p Aedror42 (talk) 15:00, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
Ships?
I can see that some ships were added on the list of organizations, but i don't think we can call those ships for organizations. Aedror42 (talk) 21:27, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, I had a doubt, can a Crew consider itself an organisation? brotherhood and all that crap.
- But that's maybe going too far
Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 21:52, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
- Or Stormwind's FIRST Fleet :X Big, furry, and insane (Have a conversation with the homocidal furry!) (Come and stalk me! ...No, wait, please don't.) 19:14, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
- Or Stormwind's FIRST Fleet :X
Organization?
Many of these don't look to me to be organizations.
- Anvilar clan does not have a source or article and Modimus Anvilmar was part of the Ironforge clan anyway.
- Hammersmith clan does not have a source or article.
- Lordaeron remnants is not a proper name.
- Sister of steel is a class in the RPG.
- Wizard's Sanctum is a "building" that houses the "Academy of Arcane Arts and Sciences".
- Frostwolf clan is multi-race?
- Outcasts does not have any source.
- Sect of the Dragons is the name of a religion like "geomancy" or "druidism" and not like "Cult of the Damned" or "Church of the Holy Light".
- Shadowforge citiziens is not spelled correctly and is not an organization just like citizens of other settlements do not automatically make them a organization.
- Boiling Spirits does not have a source or article.
- Enraged Tempests does not have a source or article.
- Elemental Lord is a title.
- Raging Boilers does not have a source.
- Outland colossi does not have a source and there are many colossi "leaders" on Outland not just Behemothon and Goliathon.
- Dolomite Giant is a mob.
- Crystalline Ice Giant is a mob.
- Iron giant is a race.
- Molten giant is a race.
- Storm giant is a race.
- Nesingwary Base Camp is a location.
- Arkkoran tribe does not exist as they are part of a multi-race group called Arkkoran.
- Temple of Ahn'Qiraj garnison is not spelled correctly and does not have a source or article.
- Death knights of Acherus is not a proper name.
- Void has no source or article.
- Sifreldar is a location.
- Iron vrykul is a race.
- Dun Morogh Wendigo is a mob.
Rolandius 
(talk - contr) 03:44, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
- Hjalmar Anvilmar is described has "Last patriarch of the Anvilmars", that would make them a clan/organization
- Hammersmith removed
- Lordaeron remnants article is flagged for a check, but still it exists
- Sister of steel states "The sisters of steel are just such a group of female blacksmiths."
- Agreed.
- Visit them in Alterac, you'll find that they opened to Tauren and other races.
- Agreed, the Centaur Pariah never mentions that a group follow him.
- I fail to see why/how it is differen from the Cult of the Damned or the Church of Holy Light.
- Agreed.
- The quest related to them say they are a group lead by Churn.
- Same thing as Boiling Spirits.
- A tittle, but also the group of 4 under command of the Old Gods.
- Same thing as Boiling Spirits.
- Only the ones tagged "King" are listed.
- Dolomite Giants act toghether and are not listed under any faction (except that they aid the earthen).
- Same thing as Dolomite Giant.
- Same thing as Dolomite Giant.
- Same thing as Dolomite Giant.
- Same thing as Dolomite Giant.
- So are the Nesingwary Safari and Nesingwary's Expedition, but we have no name/article for the hunting team they are.
- Arkkoran, we put "tribe" to have all the listed organizations of a race have "the same format".
- How would you name the Qiraji group dwelling in AQ?
- Death knights of Acherus is the name used by the Lich King and Darion Mograine all along of the death kinght starting zone. How is it not a proper name?
- Removed.
- Sifreldar is a group of female frost vrykul opposed to the group of Hyldnir.
- Same thing as Dolomite Giant.
- Same thing as Dolomite Giant.
- Note that for some of the organizations, it list to a place or a mob, that's a placeholder while we create a proper article.
- Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 10:53, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
- So the Ironforge clan became the Anvilmar clan? I thought Modimus Anvilmar was the leader of the Ironforge clan which ruled the Bronzebeard, Wildhammer, and Dark Iron clans?
- Okay
- Okay
- I guess? I thought they were just a class.
- Okay
- Their article says orc clan.
- Okay
- Well to me it is more like the "Ancients of the Night Elves" religion versus those other two which are organizations also. Those other two are actually groups with a hiearchy, leaders, an entry in the RPG as organizations, etc. Sect of the Dragons says it is just a faith, not an organization with a headquarters, hiearchy, etc.
- Okay
- If a quest says that then okay. The group's name is not known though and Boiling Spirit is only one mob.
- If a quest says that then okay. The group's name is not known though and Enraged Tempest is only one mob.
- I guess?
- If a quest says that then okay. The group's name is not known though and Raging Boiler is only one mob.
- "Outland colossi" though is just a description like "Outland makrura".
- Dolomite Giants is just one mob though. If we made an organization out of them then every mob would be an organization.
- Crystalline Ice Giant is just one mob though, the other being called Ravaged Crystalline Ice Giant. If we made an organization out of them then every mob would be an organization.
- Iron giant is a race like I said earlier.
- Molten giant is a race like I said earlier.
- Storm giant is a race like I said earlier.
- I guess? Yet, Nesingwary Safari has the name in a few mobs' title in Nagrand and Nesingwary's Expedition is an expedition group.
- I guess?
- I don't know what their name is or if they have a name but I don't think it is "Temple of Ahn'Qiraj garnison".
- If it was a proper name wouldn't it be spelled "Death Knights of Acherus"? For instance, "Order of the Knights of the Silver Hand" is not spelled "Order of the knights of the Silver Hand".
- Okay
- Sifreldar Village does not mention anything about a group called "Sifreldar" though.
- Iron vrykul is a race like I said earlier.
- "Dun Morogh Wendigo" does not even have one mob named that. The closest is Wendigo and Young Wendigo.
- 1. Ironforge clan leaded Bronzebeard, Wildhammer and Dark Iron, but after the fall, what happened? Not source anywhere except that mention "Last patriarch of the Anvilmars", inducing that they may have become an "Anvilmar clan".
- 6. The infobox says so yes, but look at the Members sub-part.
- 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 26. This is (imo) the concept of Kvaldir clan on which we had a word already.
- 20. That makes one organization per expedition/expansion.
- 22. I renamed them Temple of Ahn'Qiraj Qiraji, since in fact they only live in it.
- 23. "Death knight of Acherus" is said so by Darion Mograine, no correction from the person who quoted him. See Darion Mograine#At Battle for Light's Hope Chapel.
- 25. Do you then contest Valkyrion as a gruop too?
- 27. "Dun Morogh Wendigo" is a bit like the Elwynn kobolds on which we are currently discussing.
- Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 12:18, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
- 1. That is what I was pointing out. Did they eventually become the "Anvilmar clan"? Also, "Last patriarch of the Anvilmars" does not exactly mean it has to be a clan. It could mean he was the last of his family. Not every family is a clan or else there would be a clan for every named dwarf.
- 6. I guess so.
- 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 26. Okay, if all those are races are also clans, I guess they would be organizations.
- 20. Except there are only two leaders. Correct me if I am wrong, but the son heads the Stranglethorn Vale group and the father is found in both Nagrand and Sholozar Basin but moved from Nagrand to Sholazar Basin "lore wise".
- 22. Actually, they are not the only ones who live in it, but okay.
- 23. I guess.
- 25. Where does it say Valkyrion is a group? I have heard of the "Val'kyr race" but not the Valkyrion organization.
- 27. Except in the "Elwynn kobolds" case there a lot of mobs and they have sort of like titles/jobs after their names and in the "Dun Morogh wendigo" case I only see two mobs: One called "Wendigo" and the other "Young Wendigo".
Cleanup
I am going to clean up this article if no one else wants to. One mob, a village, etc. does not make up an organization the way, I think, users see an organization. Rolandius (talk - contr) 07:30, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
- Why don't you talk before doing this?
- Many thing you removed are organizations
- Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 10:38, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
- You consider some as non-organizations, such as the Molten Giants lead by Golemagg for Ragnaros. I think you're wrong, but my opinion does not make it all, bring people on this talk page, until there is only both of us here, let it like it is.
- Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 10:51, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
- Okay, I will leave it as is. I just don't think villages, single mobs, races, etc. are all going to be organizations as we know them in Warcraft. I also don't understand why it is so easy to just add anything but then when trying to cleanup Gourra reverts it all instead of looking at what is added also. Rolandius (talk - contr) 10:53, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
- Okay, I will leave it as is. I just don't think villages, single mobs, races, etc. are all going to be organizations as we know them in Warcraft. I also don't understand why it is so easy to just add anything but then when trying to cleanup Gourra reverts it all instead of looking at what is added also. Rolandius
- Because you remove without a talk, choosing that you are right.
- Not to mention the fact that you got him on your back because of your "past activities".
- Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 10:57, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
Recent edits
Concerning the recent edits, that might have been nice to discuss them before.
I (personnaly) have always seen this article as a full list of the organizations we can find in the Warcraft Universe, so why:
- resume Tauren as a link to Tauren Tribes and only one clan; when the Dwarves are almost fully listed
- some clans that were removed are worth to be listed here first (Frostwolf for exemple).
And, there is no "New Horde", this has already been discussed and explained before: this is one Horde at another stage of its existence.
Imo, we have lost concistency, we should revert this, and discuss the form in a sandbox before maiming this article.
Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 14:48, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
- Well i'll try to explain
- Botched editing, it was a big list, i have no problems with readding them like the dwarven examples
- The new horde i just called it to differentiate from the Dark horde and the fel horde,but i'll just post repost it as the hosrde better idea.
- There is consistency, no need to revert it now, tell me your problems case by case and i'll solve them at the first oppurtunity--Ashbear160 (talk) 14:57, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
- Also there are probably a lot of typos my keyboard is getting knackered and has a over-sensitive S button--Ashbear160 (talk) 14:59, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
- Why remove all Tauren clans, add a link to Tauren Tribes and leave only one clan; when the Dwarves are almost fully listed?
- Why remove the Independant section? This make you duplicate all the horde/alliance organizations
- Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 15:08, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
- Like i said Botched editing, it happens when there is a huge amount of information, i'm going to fix that in 2 hours(it was a big list and i need some rest and i have driving classes), you're free to fix anything that you see has a problem would really help too.
- What missing to be done:
- Organize alphabeticly
- Correct typos
- Add missing from list(a lot of them need to be added that weren't on the older list)
- Discuss problems
- That's a problem to fix too and i'm going to fix them.--Ashbear160 (talk) 15:15, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
- Just don't revert while i'm gone, please.--Ashbear160 (talk) 15:19, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
- Like I said, might be a good improvement or not, but on such a big work you should have made it in a sandbox before.
- Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 15:25, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
- I didn't remember that i could do a sandbox first, but at least coobra liked the alliance and horde section that i did yesterday--Ashbear160 (talk) 15:31, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
- Actually, it'd be more reasonable if we revert it to the original state, then you can discuss and edit on a sandbox (Organization/sandbox) to what you think it should be. It doesn't look good when you edit it piece-by-piece - come up with a draft first, and we'll go from there. --g0urra[T҂C] 15:32, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
- I also see he asked you to ask other people xD
- Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 15:33, 21 March 2011 (UTC)