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A '''bag''' is the generic term for any [[container]] that a character uses to hold other [[item]]s. Inventory space is a critical resource in WoW and inventory management is an important aspect of game play. Using more and larger bags to increase available inventory space is a key aspect of character development.
 
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:''Past discussions archived to...''
Bags are equipped for use by placing the bag in the [[bag slot]]s at the right-most end of the interface bar where your [[backpack]] is. Your backpack is actually a special bag that cannot be moved nor be replaced. Bags can be stored in your inventory (unequipped), but bags inside of other bags must be empty (thus they do not nest more than two deep).
 
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:* ...[[User talk:Coobra/Archive01]] Archived Nov 2007 to May 2008
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{{tocright}}
You can purchase up to seven extra [[bag slot]]s for your [[bank]] account at progressively increasing rates, starting at {{cost||10}} for the first slot, {{cost|1}} for the second, {{cost|10}} for the third, leveling to {{cost|25}} for the fourth through seventh. Bags in your bank slots are considered to be 'equipped' (for [[bind]]ing purposes) but not 'being carried'. You can swap out entire bags between your bank slots and your carried slots. The inventory in your bank, including bags in bank slots, is shared with your carried inventory for some purposes, in particular for restricting [[unique]] items. Quests which require items that you have in your bank inventory will show up as complete even though you can not turn them in until you retrieve the items from the bank.
 
   
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==Faction Icons==
Normal bags can hold any sort of item, unlike special bags that can only hold specific types of items. Special bags give the player more slots to store items than regular bags of equivalent level (and are generally cheaper than regular bags of the same size), with the trade-off of only being able to put certain types of items in them.
 
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I was wondering if you could make more faction icons like this one {{Alliance}} but for the main enemy faction of the expansion, currently 2 which have defined icons(since i don't know what the heck happened in the Burning crusade), the Scourge and the Twilight Hammer, just those 2--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 00:38, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
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:The Main enemy factions only:
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[[File:Twilights Hammer crest.jpg|50px]] [[File:ScourgeCrest.jpg|50px]]
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...Pictures too big if anybody knows how to make them smaller plz fix it...
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:--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 00:41, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
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::Not exactly sure why they would be needed... only reason Scryers and Aldor got them was because you could align yourself or be hostile with them. Whereas the Scourge and Twilight members would always be hostile, for the most part. {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 04:16, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
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::Can you make them? It's annoying having to use neutral icons to represent the big bad factions of the expansion--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 22:55, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
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::If someone will do this not forget the [[Illidari]]... (I never see a standard of the [[Burning Legion]]): [[File:Illibanner.jpg|50px]]
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After if you want to undertand what happened in "WoW: [[TBC]]" see [[War in Outland]]([[User:Gabrirt|Gabrirt]] ([[User talk:Gabrirt|talk]]) 21:10, 29 November 2010 (UTC))
   
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== Hell you Coobra! ==
Bags are not displayed on the character in the game. The only visual difference is the icon used in your bag slots, your bank bag slots, and in your inventory. If the bags are the same type (hold the same kinds of things) and have the same number of slots, then they are roughly equivalent (but read the section discussing restriction). You may find the different graphics useful in organizing your inventory.
 
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I and my friend adore you as a diety.
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"lying quietly in awe with my forehead against the floor". <small>—The preceding [[Wowpedia:Signature|unsigned]] comment was added by {{User|Teonod}}.</small>
   
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:Hmm... time for a sacrificial gnome. {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 07:45, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
== Bags ==
 
   
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::The coobra-god has spoken. I will make a Gnome and kill him in your name. [[User:Teonod | Teonod]]
{{:Bags/Info}}
 
   
== Normal bags ==
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== Thousand Needles ==
Normal bags come in a variety of sizes and are used to store all the items you obtain through your adventures and come in sizes ranging from 1 to 24 slots:
 
   
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Did you want me to cite sources when adding that information? The revert button is usually reserved for vandals... [[User:Needle in a Haystack|Needle in a Haystack]] ([[User talk:Needle in a Haystack|talk]]) 07:52, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
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:It's an unneeded comment and completely irrelevant. {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 07:54, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
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== heirloom shouder chants ==
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!style="width: 10%;" | Slots
 
!style="width: 20%;" | [[Profession|Crafted]]
 
!style="width: 20%;" | [[Drop]]ped
 
!style="width: 20%;" | [[Quest reward]]s
 
!style="width: 20%;" | [[Bag vendor|Vendor]]
 
   
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can also use aldor/scryer chants on heirloom shoulders <small>—The preceding [[Wowpedia:Signature|unsigned]] comment was added by {{User|Doug105}}.</small>
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:No clue, probably not. {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 21:30, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
! 24 slots
 
|{{loot|epic|Illusionary Bag}}
 
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|{{class|hunter|}} {{loot|epic|Ancient Sinew Wrapped Lamina}}
 
|{{loot|epic|Portable Hole}}
 
   
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== Quick question, sorry to bother you. ==
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! 22 slots
 
| {{loot|rare|Glacial Bag}}{{·}} {{loot|rare|Abyssal Bag}}{{·}} {{loot|uncommon|Embersilk Bag}}
 
| {{loot|epic|Dragon Hide Bag}}{{·}} {{loot|epic|Enlarged Onyxia Hide Backpack}}{{·}} {{loot|epic|Papa's Brand New Bag}}
 
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| {{loot|epic|"Gigantique" Bag}}
 
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! 20 slots
 
| {{loot|rare|Ebon Shadowbag}}{{·}} {{loot|rare|Primal Mooncloth Bag}}{{·}} {{loot|uncommon|Frostweave Bag}}
 
| {{loot|epic|Papa's New Bag}}{{·}} {{loot|epic|Pit Lord's Satchel}}{{·}} {{loot|rare|Sun Touched Satchel}}
 
| {{loot|rare|Tattered Hexcloth Sack}}
 
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! 18 slots
 
| {{loot|rare|Bottomless Bag}}{{·}} {{loot|uncommon|Imbued Netherweave Bag}}
 
| {{loot|rare|Jack-o'-Lantern}}{{·}} {{loot|rare|Panther Hide Sack}}
 
| {{loot|rare|Supply Bag}}
 
| {{loot|rare|Halaani Bag}}
 
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! 16 slots
 
| {{loot|uncommon|Mooncloth Bag}}{{·}} {{loot|uncommon|Netherweave Bag}}
 
| {{loot|uncommon|Traveler's Backpack}}{{·}} {{loot|uncommon|Pumpkin Bag}}{{·}} {{loot|uncommon|Wayfarer's Knapsack}}
 
| {{loot|uncommon|Demon Hide Sack}}
 
| {{loot|uncommon|Gnomeregan Satchel}} {{·}} {{loot|uncommon|Undercity Satchel}}<BR>{{loot|uncommon|Stormwind Satchel}} {{·}} {{loot|uncommon|Orgrimmar Satchel}}<BR>{{loot|uncommon|Darnassian Satchel}} {{·}} {{loot|uncommon|Darkspear Satchel}}<BR>{{loot|uncommon|Ironforge Satchel}} {{·}} {{loot|uncommon|Silvermoon Satchel}}<BR>{{loot|uncommon|Exodar Satchel}} {{·}} {{loot|uncommon|Bilgewater Satchel}}
 
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! 14 slots
 
| {{loot|common|Runecloth Bag}}
 
| {{loot|common|Journeyman's Backpack}}{{·}} {{loot|common|Troll-hide Bag}}
 
| {{loot|common|Darkmoon Storage Box}}{{·}} {{loot|common|Explorer's Knapsack}}{{·}} {{loot|common|Thawpelt Sack}}
 
| {{loot|uncommon|Draenic Leather Pack}}{{·}} {{loot|uncommon|Thick Hide Pack}}{{·}} {{loot|common|"Carriage" Signature Bag}}
 
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! 12 slots
 
| {{loot|common|Mageweave Bag}}{{·}} {{loot|common|Red Mageweave Bag}}
 
| {{loot|common|Large Knapsack}}{{·}} {{loot|common|Sturdy Lunchbox}}
 
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| {{loot|common|Huge Brown Sack}}
 
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! 10 slots
 
| {{loot|common|Black Silk Pack}}{{·}} {{loot|common|Green Silk Pack}}{{·}} {{loot|common|Small Silk Pack}}
 
| {{loot|common|Fel Steed Saddlebags}}{{·}} {{loot|common|Large Blue Sack}}{{·}} {{loot|common|Large Brown Sack}}{{·}} {{loot|common|Large Green Sack}}{{·}} {{loot|common|Large Red Sack}}{{·}} {{loot|common|Large Rucksack}}{{·}} {{loot|common|Murloc Skin Bag}}{{·}} {{loot|common|Snakeskin Bag}}
 
| {{loot|common|Deviate Hide Pack}}{{·}} {{loot|common|Gunnysack of the Night Watch}}{{·}} {{loot|common|Ooze-covered Bag}}
 
| {{loot|common|Heavy Brown Bag}}
 
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! 8 slots
 
| {{loot|common|Green Woolen Bag}}{{·}} {{loot|common|Red Woolen Bag}}{{·}} {{loot|common|Woolen Bag}}
 
| {{loot|common|Blue Leather Bag}}{{·}} {{loot|common|Gnoll Hide Sack}}{{·}} {{loot|common|Green Leather Bag}}{{·}} {{loot|common|Red Leather Bag}}{{·}} {{loot|common|White Leather Bag}}
 
| {{loot|common|Captain Sanders' Booty Bag}}{{·}} {{loot|uncommon|Nolkai's Bag}}{{·}} {{loot|common|Old Blanchy's Feed Pouch}} {{·}} {{loot|common|Message Carrier}} {{·}} {{loot|common|"Collecting" Bag}} {{·}} {{loot|common|Dream Carrier}} {{·}}{{loot|common|Headman's Bag}} {{·}} {{loot|common|Empty Town-In-A-Box}} {{·}} {{loot|common|Shipwright's Bag}} {{·}}
 
| {{loot|common|Brown Leather Satchel}}
 
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! 6 slots
 
| {{loot|common|Kodo Hide Bag}}{{·}} {{loot|common|Linen Bag}}{{·}} {{loot|common|Red Linen Bag}}{{·}}
 
| {{loot|common|Small Black Pouch}}{{·}} {{loot|common|Small Blue Pouch}}{{·}} {{loot|common|Small Green Pouch}}{{·}} {{loot|common|Small Red Pouch}}
 
| {{loot|common|Courier's Bag}}{{·}} {{loot|common|Jewelry Box}}{{·}} {{loot|common|Old Moneybag}}{{·}} {{loot|common|Wizbang's Gunnysack}}<BR>{{item|icon=|Foul Bag}}{{·}} {{loot|common|Melithar's Supply Bag}}{{·}} {{loot|common|Bag of Thorns}}{{·}} {{loot|common|Pumpkin Bag (common)|Pumpkin Bag}}{{·}} {{loot|common|Bank Robber's Bag}} {{·}} {{loot|common|Grape-Picking Sack}}
 
| {{loot|common|Small Brown Pouch}}
 
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! 4 slots
 
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| {{loot|common|Empty Draenei Supply Pouch}}{{·}} {{loot|common|Handmade Leather Bag}}{{·}} {{loot|common|Magister's Pouch}}{{·}} {{loot|common|Sunstrider Book Satchel}}
 
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! 1 slot
 
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| {{loot|common|Penny Pouch}}
 
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Would you mind me using your charcter page for your Night Elf Hunter as a template for my own character in game, I'm not a RPer but I like creative writing and would like permission to both use the page as a template and the permission to add the page in general.
Bind on Pickup (BoP) bags cannot be bought nor sold at the auction house; you must acquire them directly through play.
 
   
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Many thanks {{user|Extractum}}--Paladin-General of Stormwind 11:41, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
[[Bind on Equip]] (BoE) bags can be bought and sold at the auction house, but once used they can no longer be traded. Placing a bag in any of your bag slots, including your bank bag slots, equips the bag. You will get a warning when you attempt to equip a BoE bag.
 
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:I don't mind. {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 21:31, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
   
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== Frontal view ==
Bags that don't [[bind]] can always be bought and sold or otherwise passed to other characters.
 
   
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Hello! I've seen the better image requests. I can take another one for [[:File:Sergeant Houser.jpg‎|Sergeant Houser]] without problems, but [[:File:Alyssa Blaye.jpg‎|Alyssa Blaye]] and [[:File:Travist Bosk.jpg‎|Travist Bosk]] (as well as [[:File:Eldin Partridge.jpg‎|Eldin Partridge]]) are close facing the practice dummies, and I think it will be difficult to obtain a better image. Anyhow, I'll try. Bye :) --[[User:Forco|Forco]] ([[User talk:Forco|talk]]) 11:49, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
You cannot have more than one [[unique]] bag anywhere in your inventory, including in the bank and any in transit in the mail. You cannot loot a unique item you already own, and you can not receive it by any other means. For example, 50 [[Darkmoon Faire]] [[Darkmoon Faire Ticket|Tickets]] will get you a {{loot|common|Darkmoon Storage Box}}, but 100 Darkmoon Faire Tickets cannot buy you two Darkmoon Storage Boxes because you can't have a second one.
 
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:Ah, I knew there had to be reason. If you can get better shots, thank you, if it's not possible go ahead and remove the cleanup tag and state in the edit summary something like, "not possible". {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 07:53, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
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::Done for Sergeant Houser; in the file page I still see the old image, while in the NPC's page I see the new one, and I don't understand why. For the other three, I think that's the better I can do. <small>—The preceding [[Wowpedia:Signature|unsigned]] comment was added by {{User|Forco}}.</small>
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:::It does that occasionally. {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 16:24, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
   
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== Categories ==
You can only use one [[Unique-Equipped]] bag, including in your bank slots. You can, however, handle others of the same bag and get them to the auction house.
 
   
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Hello! I have just a question: after the removal of many characters from wow, from their pages have been removed all the categories, like [http://www.wowpedia.org/index.php?title=Duke_Hydraxis&action=historysubmit&diff=2547009&oldid=2524389 in this case]. I have a doubt: in the case of Hydraxis have been removed the quest givers category (and that's fine, because he gives no more quests), the azshara NPCs category (also correct, he's no more present in azshara) and also the water elementals category. This one left me puzzled, because he's ''still'' a water elemental, even if he's no more present in-game. It would be like removing, for example, [[Oakwidow]] from the night elf category because she's not present in-game, or not? The same with [http://www.wowpedia.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Coobra&action=edit&section=new Bale], and so on... --[[User:Forco|Forco]] ([[User talk:Forco|talk]]) 16:18, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
Many items in WoW have level requirements before they can be used. General purpose bags do not. A beginning character can use a high level bag with many slots.
 
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:I will refer you to [[Forum:NPCs removed from game]]. {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 22:19, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
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::Mmm, ok. It doesn't convince me, but it doesn't matter. If the decision was that one, for me it's fine. Thanks :) --[[User:Forco|Forco]] ([[User talk:Forco|talk]]) 23:07, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
   
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== Image problems ==
All of this contributes to a bag's value; the less restrictions on use, the more valuable, although number of slots carries more weight in determining value. Since [[Quality|common quality (white)]] items tend to have less restrictions than [[Quality|uncommon quality (green)]] items, some [[Quality|common quality (white)]] bags are more valuable than a few [[Quality|uncommon quality (green)]] bags of the same capacity — don't be mislead by the item's assigned quality color.
 
   
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I tried to update a photo and for some reason i ended up with the older version and not the new one. [[User:Gamerd|The Alchemic Warrior of Travels]] ([[User talk:Gamerd|talk]]) 22:34, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
A couple of the 4 slot low-level quest reward bags in the game that are Bind on Pickup have no vendor value, and when you outgrow them they have to be destroyed; for example, the {{loot|common|Sunstrider Book Satchel}}.
 
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:That happens occasionally. It will fix itself in time. {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 22:48, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
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::Ok. Well anyways. I was putting some updated photos and seen that before. [[User:Gamerd|The Alchemic Warrior of Travels]] ([[User talk:Gamerd|talk]]) 22:52, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
   
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==Ironforge Airport map==
== Vended normal bags ==
 
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You tagged [[:File:Ironforge-Airport.jpg]] as being a policy violation, but left no explanation that I could find. What is the problem? —[[User:MJBurrage|MJBurrage]]<sup>([[User talk:MJBurrage|T]]•[[Special:Contributions/MJBurrage|C]])</sup> 18:29, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
Four of these general purpose bags are widely available from [[vendor]]s:
 
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:While I know the place is easily accessible by flying mount and a specific flight path, I believe that detailing the path that players can take that involved exploiting the world environment is still against our policy. That is why it's marked as a possible violation and not just deleted. {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 23:06, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
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!'''Slots'''
 
!'''Vendor Price<br/>(at [[Neutral]])'''
 
!'''Vendor Bag'''
 
   
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:: How is it an exploit if anyone can walk the path shown? No add-ons, macros, etc. are required, just jumping over obstacles. —[[User:MJBurrage|MJBurrage]]<sup>([[User talk:MJBurrage|T]]•[[Special:Contributions/MJBurrage|C]])</sup> 23:18, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
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!style="text-align: center; padding: 0 1em"| 12 slots
 
|style="text-align: center"| {{cost|10}}
 
|style="text-align: center; padding: 0 lem"| {{loot|common|Huge Brown Sack}}
 
   
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::: To even start the path one would have to exploit the starting point.... the rest of it may require no effort, but the beginning does. {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 23:21, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
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!style="text-align: center; padding: 0 1em"| 10 slots
 
|style="text-align: center"| {{cost|2}}
 
|style="text-align: center; padding: 0 lem"| {{loot|common|Heavy Brown Bag}}
 
   
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:::: How is jumping forward, and then jumping forward again from where you landed an exploit? —[[User:MJBurrage|MJBurrage]]<sup>([[User talk:MJBurrage|T]]•[[Special:Contributions/MJBurrage|C]])</sup> 23:23, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
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!style="text-align: center; padding: 0 1em"| 8 slots
 
|style="text-align: center"| {{cost||25}}
 
|style="text-align: center; padding: 0 lem"| {{loot|common|Brown Leather Satchel}}
 
   
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::::: It was an exploit prior to the cataclysm and an exploit now. I'm not going to argue about this. Nothing has changed. {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 23:27, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
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!style="text-align: center; padding: 0 1em"| 6 slots
 
|style="text-align: center"| {{cost||5}}
 
|style="text-align: center; padding: 0 lem"| {{loot|common|Small Brown Pouch}}
 
   
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:::::: I am not trying to be argumentative, I really don't see how it is an exploit. Did Blizzard state this was an exploit? How is it any different than getting to [[Foggy MacKreel]]? —[[User:MJBurrage|MJBurrage]]<sup>([[User talk:MJBurrage|T]]•[[Special:Contributions/MJBurrage|C]])</sup> 23:30, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
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::::::: Cause he was intended to get to. Jumping down and climbing a mountain are two different things. {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 23:32, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
(They also drop, and are listed above under "dropped".)
 
   
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:::::::: Where does it say that jumping in the mountains is considered an exploit? (real question, again not trying to be argumentative) —[[User:MJBurrage|MJBurrage]]<sup>([[User talk:MJBurrage|T]]•[[Special:Contributions/MJBurrage|C]])</sup> 23:36, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
All four are available from bag merchants, and the smaller ones are available from general goods merchants. These vendors are competitive with the auction house in the small bags, but become a progressively worse value for the larger bags. The 12 slot is very much more expensive than 12 slot mageweave bags in the auction house — you can get a 16 slot netherweave bag for as much or less on many servers.
 
   
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== Unused files ==
These vended bags have the useful effect of providing an upper limit to the value and (indirectly) to the auction house pricing of smaller bags in the 6 slot to 10 slot range. They are also the only regular bags you can ''purchase'' while playing in a [[trial account]]. Players not yet comfortable with walking a low level character to their capital city for the auction house might initially want to buy a bag or two from a vendor.
 
   
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Since you seem to be the person who handles this most, please let me know and my apologies if there are any I left behind. Maybe some day I will be experienced enough and seek admin rights so I can clean up after myself. (Or I could just not be so messy in the future.) Thanks. --[[User:Bellocois|Bellocois]] ([[User talk:Bellocois|talk]]) 21:59, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
== Ammo bags ==
 
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:No problem, I placed that template just to keep track of the ones that weren't being link to on your page or their own articles. If you do find an image not being used just mark it for speedydelete. =) {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 22:01, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
This class of specialty bags were converted to normal bags with [[Patch_4.0.1]]. Ammunition ([[arrow]]s and [[bullet]]s ) were also made unnecessary for using a Bow, Crossbow, or Gun.
 
   
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== Thank you ==
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I've always loved the work of the major contributors and I just want to say "thank you" for helping me clean up the articles I've been adding over the past week. I've just been snapping screenshots of every NPC I come across and slowly getting around to adding them as time permits. I always go back and look at the fixes you put in for me and it helps me learn about style and "where stuff goes." Hopefully, one of these days, I'll have a good enough hang of this that I won't leave you so much work to do. Anyways, thanks again for your patience and work. John [[User:Yithnal|Yithnal]] ([[User talk:Yithnal|talk]]) 16:03, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
Ammo bags like [[quiver]]s and [[Ammo Pouch|ammo pouch]]es can only hold ammunition ([[arrow]]s or [[bullet]]s respectively). Of course, this is only useful to characters who use ammunition: [[hunter]]s, and with [[Weapon Master|weapons training]], [[rogue]]s and [[warrior]]s.
 
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:Happy to help. =) {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 03:32, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
   
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==Count link==
Identical ammunition stored in multiple slots in an ammo bag will be automatically re-equipped when a stack of ammo runs out. Ammo that is different in any way is not automatically equipped. This can lead to confusion or delays, so many players only store one kind of ammo in an ammo bag at a time.
 
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Just pointing out, the Count link on your user page links to the "evil wiki who shall not here be named"
   
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Have bright sun shining day!
Ammo bags display the number of shots remaining on their action bar icons, whenever the number of shots falls below 10000 (10 stacks).{{fact}}
 
   
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{{User:A'noob/sig}} 08:18, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
Essentially, an ammo bag is a hunter item. While rogues and warrior can, with weapon training, benefit from an ammo pouch, the truth is that they will probably choose to forgo carrying an ammo pouch. Hunters burn though quantities of ammunition. Rogues and warriors shoot occasionally to call an opponent out of a group. Since ammo bags are less versatile than conventional bags, rogues and warrior will generally prefer to have general purpose bag space holding a stack or two of ammo.
 
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:heh, forgot about that. Thank you. {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 03:31, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
   
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== How do you do Warcraft 2 screenshots without crosshatching on minimap? ==
Hunters start with a six slot quiver, {{loot|common|Light Quiver}}, or ammo pouch, {{loot|common|Small Ammo Pouch}}, that holds the ammo of their starting ranged weapon.
 
   
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Hi, I saw your [[:File:Beetle_Island.jpg]] (compare to one of my screenshots: [http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/4884/dareregionofthechanneli.png img220.imageshack.us/img220/4884/dareregionofthechanneli.png] and was wondering, how do you do Warcraft 2 screenshots of the minimap without the crosshatching/fine grid put over on the minimap of areas not currently visible to make them darker?
Quivers and ammo pouches follow a similar size progression, ranging from the six slot hunter starting quiver or ammo pouch to the 24 slot gear, which is only usable by level 70 characters. Ammo bags with 10 slots and above have increasing level requirements to equip. Ammo stacks in stacks of 1000, so even a beginning ammo bag can hold 6000 rounds of ammo.
 
   
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Even when I use the cheat (press enter type 'showpath' then enter again, that one) it just displays all of the map and stuff that isn't currently being 'seen' by one of your people is greyed out/crosshatched out on the minimap. So not sure how you took that screenshot? Thanks for any info :)
(Ammo bags also tend to be larger than regular bags of the same [[item level]], but since general purpose bags have no level restrictions, it may be easier to obtain regular bags bigger than your ammo bag.)
 
   
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Might be good to post the info on the wiki for others so it's common knowledge, especially if you know how to do the same for the other games like Warcraft 1/3 etc! I have only just been trying them out cos I was curious about the background story behind world of warcraft --[[User:Kittymew|Kittymew]] ([[User talk:Kittymew|talk]]) 12:30, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
Ammo bags can be made by [[Leatherworking|Leatherworkers]], purchased from the auction house and vendors, or obtained as quest rewards. The source of each size increment of ammo bag is unique or a unique type ('crafted' or 'vended'), with minor exceptions. For the eight slot quiver and ammo pouch, there is a vendor version ({{cost||1}} at [[Neutral]]), and a crafted version. The [[Alliance]] quest, {{Alliance Icon Small}}15 {{quest|Vyrin's Revenge (2)|Vyrin's Revenge}}, [[Loch Modan]], rewards the character with a choice of a ten slot quiver or ammo pouch.
 
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:It's been a long time since I uploaded that... I don't even know if I copied it from a badly named file or from battle.net. Either way, I didn't personally take the image. {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 04:53, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
   
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== [[Scout Galiaan]] and friends ==
Prior to [[Patch 3.1.0]], ammo bags generally gave a [[Rate of Fire]] bonus of between 10 and 15 percent, shortening the cooldown on the [[Shoot]] or [[Auto Shot]] ability.
 
   
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I had put the Cataclysm shots in separate locations so the old ones would still be accessible. I can see the logic of what you did since the old version is in the file history, but it still seems more logical to have something we can link directly to and say "This is what the character looked like before Cataclysm." Not that the specifics of Named Guard #439's page matter in the long run, but still. --[[User:Bellocois|Bellocois]] ([[User talk:Bellocois|talk]]) 03:20, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
== Soul bags ==
 
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:If it was a completely new model or completely different look, then I'd say yes, keep an old image to see, but when the only difference is they added a tabard... that's not enough to keep both files. The image history can be viewed if users want to see them without the tabard. {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 03:23, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
A [[soul bag]] is a bag used by [[warlock]]s to hold more {{item|Soul Shard|Soul Shards}} than they would normally be able to carry in conventional containers.
 
   
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While I'm here, you tagged some images for deletion that are linked from my user page as being part of my (extended) to-do list. I ''did'' upload a bunch recently that I didn't create pages for or link to as needing pages, but I plan to remedy that in the next 24 hours or so. --[[User:Bellocois|Bellocois]] ([[User talk:Bellocois|talk]]) 03:32, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
Soul Shards harvested by the Warlock are automatically stored in an equipped Soul Bag when acquired, making tedious Soul Shard housekeeping a thing of the past.
 
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:Oh no no, that is not the speedy delete tag. That is simply an unused image marker. I use it to keep track of images that are currently not being used in articles. It's also another way for users to see if articles are needed, by seeing there's an image in need of an article. I would never delete those. {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 03:34, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
   
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==Your opinion is desired==
Helpfully, soul bags also display the number of soul shards stored within them on the bag icon on the container toolbar.
 
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Hey, just wanted to get your opinion on [[Talk:Archbishop Benedictus]] about whether or not the "he staged a coup" note from [[patch 1.4.1]] should be considered lore or not. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 20:35, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
   
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Adding my 2 cents. Coobra could you vote in [[Category talk:Patch templates]], regarding the change of icon in Cataclysm Patch templates. I would be very grateful:) {{User:Encaitar/Signature}} 22:17, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
Only Soul Shards can be stored in Soul Bags. If you wish to convert a Soul Shard into any other type of inventory item (such as a [[Healthstone]] or [[Soulstone]]) you will need extra space in your normal bags to hold the new item.
 
   
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== Where are they now? ==
Soul Bags range in size from 12 slots to 32 slots. The Soul Bag consumes a regular container slot, however, so it reduces the number of available slots for non-Soul Shard items, but contains more item slots than regular bags of equal level.
 
   
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Just hit upon the [[User:Coobra/Cataclysm|Where are they now?]] section of your user site, and it's the most comprehensive of its type so far. I've posted [http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/797746-The-MIA-of-Cataclysm my own] [http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1127157453 MIA lists] on the usual forums before, and had been thinking of compiling one myself. In the meantime, I got a response from a GM ticket regarding another MIA character, [[Arko'narin]]. — [[User:Deepred|Deepred]] ([[User talk:Deepred|talk]]) 04:54, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
A Warlock is not required to use a Soul Bag in harvesting Soul Shards.
 
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:Oh nice =). Did you get a screenshot of the conversation to be used as a reference in case anyone contests it? {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 05:03, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
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::Indeed I did. I can upload it on request. — [[User:Deepred|Deepred]] ([[User talk:Deepred|talk]]) 06:13, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
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:::Thank you. {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 06:32, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
   
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You could probably put this in the main space under an appropriate title, whatever that may be. It has the potential to draw significant attention in the way [[Horde bias]] unintentionally did when I created it. Actually, now that I mention that page, it's probably best that you don't move it, let alone let the forums near it. (Kidding. Sort of! :-P) --[[User:Bellocois|Bellocois]] ([[User talk:Bellocois|talk]]) 08:05, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
Soul Bags can be made by [[Tailoring|Tailors]], purchased from the auction house, or obtained as quest rewards. The source of each size increment of ammo bag is unique or a unique type ("crafted"). Like general purpose bags, Soul Bags have no explicit level requirements. There are no vended Soul Bags.
 
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:Heh.. well I started off wanting to do this during the beta... but after getting into finally doing it... I saw that they were still leaving many NPCs out (to be added later) and with the phasing, I wouldn't be able to just fly through zones looking for specific things.. I'd have to quest through the zones. But new toons come after older toons... so eventually I'll get back to this. I'd just prefer to being able to control it on my userspace, rather than letting it run rampant like Horde/Alliance bias =P. {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 08:11, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
   
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== User Templates (?) ==
Soul Bags earned though quests are [[Bind on Pickup]] while those created by tailors are [[Bind on Equip]].
 
   
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Not sure if I titled the headline right or not. However I was wondering where I would be able to find more of the {{User Horde}} objects. I've forgotten the URL and haven't been able to find it on WoWPedia --[[User:Alindaloran|Alindaloran]] ([[User talk:Alindaloran|talk]]) 10:52, January 12, 2010
== Craft bags ==
 
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:You can look at all "User*" templates [{{fullurl:Special:PrefixIndex|prefix=User&namespace=10}} here] —[[User:Egingell|<span class="ajaxttlink">EGingell</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:Egingell|T]][[Special:Contributions/Egingell|C]]</sup> {{User:Egingell/Playerlink|Cenarion Circle|Treader|Treader of Cenarion Circle}} 09:28, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
There are a number of crafting-specific bags that can hold certain materials and products. Like Ammo Bags and Soul Bags, these are limited in what kinds of items they can hold.
 
{| class="darktable"
 
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! colspan="5" | '''Craft Bags'''
 
   
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== Admiral Nightwing ==
|-
 
!style="width: 10%;" | Profession
 
!style="width: 30%;" | Holds
 
!style="width: 15%;" | Does not hold
 
!style="width: 10%;" | Source
 
!style="width: 35%;" | Bag types (Slots)
 
   
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I said in the summary he needed to be renamed to '''Admiral Nightwind'''. [[User:Hallowseve|Hallowseve]] ([[User talk:Hallowseve|talk]]) 13:17, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
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:Admiral Nightwind already existed, hence it's deletion. {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 21:34, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
!style="text-align: center; padding: 0 1em"|[[Enchanting]]
 
|style="text-align: center; padding: 0 1em"| Dust{{·}} Enchanting Essences{{·}} Shards{{·}} Enchanting Rods{{·}} Enchanting Recipes {{·}} Motes/Primals
 
|style="text-align: center; padding: 0 1em"| Oils{{·}} Elemental Essences{{·}} Wands
 
|style="text-align: center; padding: 0 1em"| [[Tailors]]
 
|style="text-align: center; padding: 0 1em"|{{loot|uncommon|Enchanted Mageweave Pouch}} (16) {{·}} {{loot|uncommon|Enchanted Runecloth Bag}} (20) {{·}} {{loot|uncommon|Enchanter's Satchel}} (20) {{·}} {{loot|uncommon|Big Bag of Enchantment}} (24) {{·}} {{loot|rare|Spellfire Bag}} (28) {{·}} {{loot|rare|Mysterious Bag}} (32) {{·}} {{loot|rare|Otherworldly Bag}} (36)
 
   
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==Class thing==
|-
 
!style="text-align: center; padding: 0 1em"|[[Herbalism]]
 
|style="text-align: center; padding: 0 1em"| Herbs{{·}} Heart of the Wild{{·}} Blood Scythe{{·}} Mote of Life{{·}} Primal life
 
|style="text-align: center; padding: 0 1em"| Vials
 
|style="text-align: center; padding: 0 1em"| Vendors<br/> Tailors
 
|style="text-align: center; padding: 0 1em"|{{loot|uncommon|Herb Pouch}} (12) {{·}} {{loot|uncommon|Cenarion Herb Bag}}(20) {{·}} {{loot|uncommon|Satchel of Cenarius}} (24) {{·}} {{loot|rare|Mycah's Botanical Bag}} (28) {{·}} {{loot|rare|Emerald Bag}} (32) {{·}} {{loot|uncommon|Hyjal Expedition Bag}} (36)
 
   
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::::It has to be consistent with playable races like the [[Night elf|night elves]]. They have the WoW classes at the top.--[[User:Atomos|Atomos]] ([[User talk:Atomos#top|talk]]) 01:08, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
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!style="text-align: center; padding: 0 1em"|[[Engineering]]
 
|style="text-align: center; padding: 0 1em"| Items Crafted by Engineering{{·}} Motes
 
|style="text-align: center; padding: 0 1em"| Ore{{·}} Bars{{·}} Gems{{·}} Cloth
 
|style="text-align: center; padding: 0 1em"| Vendors<br/> [[Engineering|Engineers]]
 
|style="text-align: center; padding: 0 1em"|{{loot|uncommon|Heavy Toolbox}} (20) {{·}} {{loot|uncommon|Fel Iron Toolbox}} (24) {{·}} {{loot|rare|Titanium Toolbox}} (32)
 
   
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::And Highborne elves are actually ''playable'' so they should count.--[[User:Atomos|Atomos]] ([[User talk:Atomos|talk]]) 01:12, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
|-
 
!style="text-align: center; padding: 0 1em"|[[Inscription]]
 
|style="text-align: center; padding: 0 1em"| Glyphs{{·}} Scrolls{{·}} Pigments{{·}} Ink{{·}} Parchment
 
|style="text-align: center; padding: 0 1em"| Herbs
 
|style="text-align: center; padding: 0 1em"| Vendors <br/> [[Leatherworking|Leatherworkers]]
 
|style="text-align: center; padding: 0 1em"|{{loot|uncommon|Scribe's Satchel}} (10) {{·}} {{loot|rare|Pack of Endless Pockets}} (32)
 
   
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== Tinkering (Engineering) ==
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!style="text-align: center; padding: 0 1em"|[[Jewelcrafting]]
 
|style="text-align: center; padding: 0 1em"| Mined and Conjured Gems{{·}} Jeweler's Kit{{·}} Simple Grinder{{·}} Pearls
 
|style="text-align: center; padding: 0 1em"|
 
|style="text-align: center; padding: 0 1em"| Vendors<br/> Tailors
 
|style="text-align: center; padding: 0 1em"|{{loot|uncommon|Gem Pouch}} (20) {{·}} {{loot|uncommon|Bag of Jewels}} (24)
 
   
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I am moved to mirth... having had the page I created turned into a redirect, then deleted to make way for the page it was directing to. I guess I am confirmed in my guess as to the correctness of my choice of name. {{=)}} --[[User:Eirik Ratcatcher|Eirik Ratcatcher]] ([[User talk:Eirik Ratcatcher|talk]]) 22:42, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
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:Aye. I didn't realize Tinkering (Engineering) had also just been made, thought Tinkering (engineering) was a duplicate, but it is the correct name. {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 23:40, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
!style="text-align: center; padding: 0 1em"|[[Mining]]
 
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::Ayup. Someone ELSE had made Tinkering (Engineering) by the time I came along. And by george, they must have been making it at about the same time I was making mine! --[[User:Eirik Ratcatcher|Eirik Ratcatcher]] ([[User talk:Eirik Ratcatcher|talk]]) 00:54, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
|style="text-align: center; padding: 0 1em"| Ore{{·}} Bars{{·}} Stone{{·}} Mining Pick{{·}} Motes (Fire & Earth){{·}} Blacksmith Hammer
 
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:::According to the logs, Grynd starting making the page 3hrs or so before you. =P {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 01:38, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
|style="text-align: center; padding: 0 1em"| Motes (other){{·}} Gems
 
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== Old Mammoth ==
|style="text-align: center; padding: 0 1em"|{{loot|uncommon|Mining Sack}} (20) {{·}} {{loot|uncommon|Reinforced Mining Bag}} (28) {{·}} {{loot|rare|Mammoth Mining Bag}} (32)
 
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Heya, could you possibly move the article "Last Weeks Mammoth" to "Last Week's Mammoth"? I know it's only a minor typo, but I still find it somewhat annoying. WoWpedia might be more "human-made" than WoW-databases such as Wowhead which digs data directly, but it should still be on par with it when it comes to names! Also, if possible, it'd be nifty if you could make "Last Weeks Mammoth" redirect to the new page. [[User:WrathOfDeathfrost|WrathOfDeathfrost]] ([[User talk:WrathOfDeathfrost|talk]]) 22:39, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
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== Your opinion is desired ==
   
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Hey Coobra, the [[Alliance-Horde War]] article is constantly changed to include Malfurion as an Alliance commander, while hee actually doesn't take part in the conflict similar to [[Lady Liadrin]], [[Hamuul Runetotem]], [[Varok Saurfang]] or even [[Thrall]] who are not listed. Could you please visit [[Talk:Alliance–Horde War#Malfurion is not an Alliance commander|Talk:Alliance–Horde War]] and discuss. I really think he doesn't fit there, as he is more neutral as leader of Cenarion Circle (just like the 4 Horde commanders who simply do not take part in the war eventhough they're in the Horde). Thanks in advance {{User:Encaitar/Signature}} 20:35, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
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:Well he's not exactly the neutral leader but the alliance representative of the cenarion circle--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 10:23, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
!style="text-align: center; padding: 0 1em"|[[Leatherworking]]
 
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|style="text-align: center; padding: 0 1em"| Leather{{·}} Skinning Knife{{·}} Salt Shaker{{·}} Motes{{·}} Primals{{·}} Vortexes
 
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==Sapient race templates==
|style="text-align: center; padding: 0 1em"|
 
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Ugh i'm sorry if i complain too much but it seems gourra doesn't know that the sapient templates are made to fit certain things and he's changing the templates to fit the name of the article, which PCJ named it wrong...--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 01:38, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
|style="text-align: center; padding: 0 1em"| Leatherworkers
 
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:Sorry for being annoyance, but i really took a long time to arrange the templates--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 01:39, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
|style="text-align: center; padding: 0 1em"|{{loot|uncommon|Leatherworker's Satchel}} (20) {{·}} {{loot|rare|Bag of Many Hides}} (24) {{·}} {{loot|rare|Trapper's Traveling Pack}} (28)
 
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== Forsaken ==
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Should i change
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"Among the tauren the Forsaken found a champion in Magatha Grimtotem, who argued in favor of the alliance between the two peoples and who continues to work closely with them. Magatha claims she merely wants to aid the Forsaken in their quest to redeem themselves, although there are many who believe her true motives to be something very different and much less innocent."
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with newer source:
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"The kind-hearted tauren of Thunder Bluff proved to be the most promising contact. Specifically, Archdruid Hamuul Runetotem saw the potential for redemption in Sylvanas’ people, even though he was fully aware of the Forsaken’s sinister nature. Thus, the tauren convinced Warchief Thrall, despite his misgivings, to forge an alliance of convenience between the Forsaken and the Horde."
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http://us.battle.net/wow/en/game/race/forsaken
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Because in Cata Grimtotem and forsaken Relations made no Reference at all The quests could possibly has been retcon and blizzard website changed it from magtha to Hamuul.--[[User:Forsakenlord|Forsakenlord]] ([[User talk:Forsakenlord|talk]]) 22:42, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
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:Couldn't they both have argued in favor of them... {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 23:08, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
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could be however with shattering magtha never called the forsaken to aid her against [[baine bloodhoof]] instead asking garrosh aid + forsaken info from new website + No Reference made between the forsaken and Grimtotem + Grimtotem never sought the forsaken aid + Grimtotem Allied with Alliance (forsaken hatred enemy)= retcon? --[[User:Forsakenlord|Forsakenlord]] ([[User talk:Forsakenlord|talk]]) 23:23, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
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== Wowpedia/World of Warcraft Acheivements thingy or wutever its called ==
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how do you keep those doohickies in a straight column??????[[User:Itsuki624|Itsuki624]] ([[User talk:Itsuki624|talk]]) 06:53, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
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:Edit my page and copy the code the same way you did before... just take all of it, rather than portions. {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 06:55, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
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I was only editing to find out how to make the pictures,I didn't copy it.And how do you do that snake tail thing??PS.how would i make a thingy for preferring the Horde over the Alliance?[[User:Itsuki624|Itsuki624]] ([[User talk:Itsuki624|talk]]) 07:09, 21 January 2011 (UTC)Itsuki624
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==Guardian of Ancient kings==
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Could you make an article for the creature instead of the ability? plz--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 19:20, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
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:plz?--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 17:16, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
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::You're welcome to. I wouldn't know what to put. {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 21:32, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
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:::No i mean i don't know how to make an article separate the creature from the ability do i add something to the name of the article or something?--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 22:06, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
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::::What do you want to call the creature? The same exact thing as the ability? If so, use lower case for the race. [[Guardian of ancient kings]] .{{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 22:13, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
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:::::You know, it needs something. Like any lore at all.--{{User:Sandwichman2448/Sig}} 22:23, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
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::::::That would help too... it's why I never bothered with making a page for them. {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 22:25, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
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:Well i originally planned so i could remove a spell(with all it's spells things) from sapient species template, but then i remeber that they haven't shown any proof of being sapient, i still want to the article but there's not much lore either--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 22:31, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
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== Mountfooter changes ==
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I would like to see a couple of changes to the Mountfooter subpages:
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# Skeletal Horse mounts - currently Mountfooter/Skeletal lists the category as "skeletal", which is already stretched to include the ebon blade DK mount. It absolutely breaks when you include the raptor. There are too many Skeletal Horses specifically to break that category that way. I would see them moved to Unique for now.
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# I would see all the sub-page mount links re-jiggered to remove the icons. The icons are only useful if there's a distinct difference, and for the most part there isn't one.
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Rather than ask forgiveness, I thought I would ask your opinion on them first. --[[User:Eirik Ratcatcher|Eirik Ratcatcher]] ([[User talk:Eirik Ratcatcher|talk]]) 19:32, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
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:Sounds like a good idea. {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 21:31, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
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:: Just telling the opinion, 'cuz i'm editing mount pages a bit nowadays and i agree that fossilized raptor and dk mount need to be put in some other category, but i'm not sure that it's needed to get rid of icons. [[User:Drdead|Drdead]] ([[User talk:Drdead|talk]]) 23:38, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
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==Template:azeroth aliens==
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In a fit nonsensical incoherence caused by a admin, i changed the name to a extensive "enciclopedical" name i want to change it back but the thing doesn't let me, can you help?[[Template:Sapient species alien to Azeroth]] to [[Template:Azeroth aliens]]--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 22:09, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
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:Done. {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 22:17, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
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::Thanks--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 22:22, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
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==Template:Alliance Sidebar==
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Hey there Coobra, i'm trying to keep the pages clean and up to date, i just see Gabrirt post anything on side bars thinking anyone can be on there
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without a reason or role they have to be up and just throws up anything in the Alliance up there, Hope you understand im doing the edits for the good
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of the pages and everyone. <small>—The preceding [[Wowpedia:Signature|unsigned]] comment was added by {{User|ArbiterX122591}}.</small>
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:Just for the record i removed the titles from the leaders because:
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::B)They're unnecessary since you can click on the link and see their title
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:--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 22:40, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
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::Someone removed all the race icons from the alliance page before you protected it... could you add them back?--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 23:01, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
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::::(Inserting) To what icons are you referring? The infobox is full of them. {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 00:33, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
   
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:::And substitute this
The "Profession" is not a requirement, any character can use these bags. In particular, the "mining" bags are useful to any profession that uses metal bars (since they use a large amount) and the "jewelcrafting" bags are useful to any profession that uses gems extensively (since they use many types of gems, each of which takes a slot).
 
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*The children of Cenarius, work closely with the night elves throughout Kalimdor.
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** Some Frost nymphs of Stars' Rest
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*** Some Frost nymphs are within the Alliance, the most notable is Sarendryana.
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*The children of Cenarius, work closely with the night elves.
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:::That's it if you can--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 23:05, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
   
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:Ashbear160 i love how you really fixed up the side bars and made them stand out :) Hope you got some more great ideas and continue to protect the page like me, Admins can't be everywhere up to us to keep them clean for them.--[[User:ArbiterX122591|ArbiterX122591]] ([[User talk:ArbiterX122591|talk]]) 23:05, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
Like general purpose bags, craft bags have no explicit level requirements. Currently, all craft bags are [[Bind on Equip]].
 
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::Thanks--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 23:14, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
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::Quite the hypocrite since you [http://www.wowpedia.org/index.php?title=Alliance&diff=2595337&oldid=2595262 reverted the same type of edit]. --{{User:Gourra/Sig2}} 00:44, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
   
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I personally think the Admins, should lock the Alliance & Horde Pages and have someone in the adminstration, play around with those posts
Like Soul Bags, craft bags have more slots than regular bags of a given level.
 
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and have pple submit info, so there is only accurate information. Spam or inaccruate is turned away <small>—The preceding [[Wowpedia:Signature|unsigned]] comment was added by {{User|ArbiterX122591}}.</small>
   
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:If I had the time, I would... but I don't so I won't. The article has gotten out of hand, and I tried to help repair before, but I can't monitor it daily and protecting the page forever is against the spirit of the wiki. {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 00:33, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
Craft bags are not widely sold by vendors; even then, they are often sold at high prices on the Auction House. Only the 12-slot {{loot|uncommon|Herb Pouch}} and 10-slot {{loot|common|Scribe's Satchel}} are vended in zones accessible to low level characters. ({{cost||10}}(at [[Neutral]]) for Herb Pouch and {{cost||50}}(at Neutral) for Scribe's Satchel)
 
   
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As much as I hate to be the bad guy, I banned Ashbear160 for three days. This was getting out of hand.--{{User:Sandwichman2448/Sig}} 00:36, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
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more clean, standout and look alot better. I think Gabrirt should get a major ban for the Alliance and Horde Pages cause he seemed to always just throw anything on the page and so many people including Coobraand myself had to reapir what he did and he continued over and over. and should i get a Minior or Major Ban whatever you choose, cause were i have always un-done his posts everytime i seem he had edited and thats against the rules of the Wiki, but did for the good of the page. We are the only two
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Faction Icons

I was wondering if you could make more faction icons like this one Alliance but for the main enemy faction of the expansion, currently 2 which have defined icons(since i don't know what the heck happened in the Burning crusade), the Scourge and the Twilight Hammer, just those 2--Ashbear160 (talk) 00:38, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

The Main enemy factions only:

Twilights Hammer crest ScourgeCrest ...Pictures too big if anybody knows how to make them smaller plz fix it...

--Ashbear160 (talk) 00:41, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
Not exactly sure why they would be needed... only reason Scryers and Aldor got them was because you could align yourself or be hostile with them. Whereas the Scourge and Twilight members would always be hostile, for the most part. SnakeSssssssssssssssssssssssss Coobra sig3For Pony! (Sssss/Slithered) 04:16, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
Can you make them? It's annoying having to use neutral icons to represent the big bad factions of the expansion--Ashbear160 (talk) 22:55, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
If someone will do this not forget the Illidari... (I never see a standard of the Burning Legion): Illibanner

After if you want to undertand what happened in "WoW: TBC" see War in Outland(Gabrirt (talk) 21:10, 29 November 2010 (UTC))

Hell you Coobra!

I and my friend adore you as a diety. "lying quietly in awe with my forehead against the floor". —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Teonod (talk · contr).

Hmm... time for a sacrificial gnome. SnakeSssssssssssssssssssssssss Coobra sig3For Pony! (Sssss/Slithered) 07:45, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
The coobra-god has spoken. I will make a Gnome and kill him in your name. Teonod

Thousand Needles

Did you want me to cite sources when adding that information? The revert button is usually reserved for vandals... Needle in a Haystack (talk) 07:52, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

It's an unneeded comment and completely irrelevant. SnakeSssssssssssssssssssssssss Coobra sig3For Pony! (Sssss/Slithered) 07:54, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

heirloom shouder chants

can also use aldor/scryer chants on heirloom shoulders —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Doug105 (talk · contr).

No clue, probably not. SnakeSssssssssssssssssssssssss Coobra sig3For Pony! (Sssss/Slithered) 21:30, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Quick question, sorry to bother you.

Would you mind me using your charcter page for your Night Elf Hunter as a template for my own character in game, I'm not a RPer but I like creative writing and would like permission to both use the page as a template and the permission to add the page in general.

Many thanks Extractum (talk · contr)--Paladin-General of Stormwind 11:41, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

I don't mind. SnakeSssssssssssssssssssssssss Coobra sig3For Pony! (Sssss/Slithered) 21:31, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Frontal view

Hello! I've seen the better image requests. I can take another one for Sergeant Houser without problems, but Alyssa Blaye and Travist Bosk (as well as Eldin Partridge) are close facing the practice dummies, and I think it will be difficult to obtain a better image. Anyhow, I'll try. Bye :) --Forco (talk) 11:49, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Ah, I knew there had to be reason. If you can get better shots, thank you, if it's not possible go ahead and remove the cleanup tag and state in the edit summary something like, "not possible". SnakeSssssssssssssssssssssssss Coobra sig3For Pony! (Sssss/Slithered) 07:53, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
Done for Sergeant Houser; in the file page I still see the old image, while in the NPC's page I see the new one, and I don't understand why. For the other three, I think that's the better I can do. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Forco (talk · contr).
It does that occasionally. SnakeSssssssssssssssssssssssss Coobra sig3For Pony! (Sssss/Slithered) 16:24, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Categories

Hello! I have just a question: after the removal of many characters from wow, from their pages have been removed all the categories, like in this case. I have a doubt: in the case of Hydraxis have been removed the quest givers category (and that's fine, because he gives no more quests), the azshara NPCs category (also correct, he's no more present in azshara) and also the water elementals category. This one left me puzzled, because he's still a water elemental, even if he's no more present in-game. It would be like removing, for example, Oakwidow from the night elf category because she's not present in-game, or not? The same with Bale, and so on... --Forco (talk) 16:18, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

I will refer you to Forum:NPCs removed from game. SnakeSssssssssssssssssssssssss Coobra sig3For Pony! (Sssss/Slithered) 22:19, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
Mmm, ok. It doesn't convince me, but it doesn't matter. If the decision was that one, for me it's fine. Thanks :) --Forco (talk) 23:07, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Image problems

I tried to update a photo and for some reason i ended up with the older version and not the new one. The Alchemic Warrior of Travels (talk) 22:34, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

That happens occasionally. It will fix itself in time. SnakeSssssssssssssssssssssssss Coobra sig3For Pony! (Sssss/Slithered) 22:48, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
Ok. Well anyways. I was putting some updated photos and seen that before. The Alchemic Warrior of Travels (talk) 22:52, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Ironforge Airport map

You tagged File:Ironforge-Airport.jpg as being a policy violation, but left no explanation that I could find. What is the problem? —MJBurrage(TC) 18:29, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

While I know the place is easily accessible by flying mount and a specific flight path, I believe that detailing the path that players can take that involved exploiting the world environment is still against our policy. That is why it's marked as a possible violation and not just deleted. SnakeSssssssssssssssssssssssss Coobra sig3For Pony! (Sssss/Slithered) 23:06, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
How is it an exploit if anyone can walk the path shown? No add-ons, macros, etc. are required, just jumping over obstacles. —MJBurrage(TC) 23:18, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
To even start the path one would have to exploit the starting point.... the rest of it may require no effort, but the beginning does. SnakeSssssssssssssssssssssssss Coobra sig3For Pony! (Sssss/Slithered) 23:21, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
How is jumping forward, and then jumping forward again from where you landed an exploit? —MJBurrage(TC) 23:23, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
It was an exploit prior to the cataclysm and an exploit now. I'm not going to argue about this. Nothing has changed. SnakeSssssssssssssssssssssssss Coobra sig3For Pony! (Sssss/Slithered) 23:27, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
I am not trying to be argumentative, I really don't see how it is an exploit. Did Blizzard state this was an exploit? How is it any different than getting to Foggy MacKreel? —MJBurrage(TC) 23:30, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
Cause he was intended to get to. Jumping down and climbing a mountain are two different things. SnakeSssssssssssssssssssssssss Coobra sig3For Pony! (Sssss/Slithered) 23:32, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
Where does it say that jumping in the mountains is considered an exploit? (real question, again not trying to be argumentative) —MJBurrage(TC) 23:36, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Unused files

Since you seem to be the person who handles this most, please let me know and my apologies if there are any I left behind. Maybe some day I will be experienced enough and seek admin rights so I can clean up after myself. (Or I could just not be so messy in the future.) Thanks. --Bellocois (talk) 21:59, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

No problem, I placed that template just to keep track of the ones that weren't being link to on your page or their own articles. If you do find an image not being used just mark it for speedydelete. =) SnakeSssssssssssssssssssssssss Coobra sig3For Pony! (Sssss/Slithered) 22:01, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Thank you

I've always loved the work of the major contributors and I just want to say "thank you" for helping me clean up the articles I've been adding over the past week. I've just been snapping screenshots of every NPC I come across and slowly getting around to adding them as time permits. I always go back and look at the fixes you put in for me and it helps me learn about style and "where stuff goes." Hopefully, one of these days, I'll have a good enough hang of this that I won't leave you so much work to do. Anyways, thanks again for your patience and work. John Yithnal (talk) 16:03, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Happy to help. =) SnakeSssssssssssssssssssssssss Coobra sig3For Pony! (Sssss/Slithered) 03:32, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Count link

Just pointing out, the Count link on your user page links to the "evil wiki who shall not here be named"

Have bright sun shining day!

IconSmall Hamuul Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 08:18, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

heh, forgot about that. Thank you. SnakeSssssssssssssssssssssssss Coobra sig3For Pony! (Sssss/Slithered) 03:31, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

How do you do Warcraft 2 screenshots without crosshatching on minimap?

Hi, I saw your File:Beetle_Island.jpg (compare to one of my screenshots: img220.imageshack.us/img220/4884/dareregionofthechanneli.png and was wondering, how do you do Warcraft 2 screenshots of the minimap without the crosshatching/fine grid put over on the minimap of areas not currently visible to make them darker?

Even when I use the cheat (press enter type 'showpath' then enter again, that one) it just displays all of the map and stuff that isn't currently being 'seen' by one of your people is greyed out/crosshatched out on the minimap. So not sure how you took that screenshot? Thanks for any info :)

Might be good to post the info on the wiki for others so it's common knowledge, especially if you know how to do the same for the other games like Warcraft 1/3 etc! I have only just been trying them out cos I was curious about the background story behind world of warcraft --Kittymew (talk) 12:30, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

It's been a long time since I uploaded that... I don't even know if I copied it from a badly named file or from battle.net. Either way, I didn't personally take the image. SnakeSssssssssssssssssssssssss Coobra sig3For Pony! (Sssss/Slithered) 04:53, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Scout Galiaan and friends

I had put the Cataclysm shots in separate locations so the old ones would still be accessible. I can see the logic of what you did since the old version is in the file history, but it still seems more logical to have something we can link directly to and say "This is what the character looked like before Cataclysm." Not that the specifics of Named Guard #439's page matter in the long run, but still. --Bellocois (talk) 03:20, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

If it was a completely new model or completely different look, then I'd say yes, keep an old image to see, but when the only difference is they added a tabard... that's not enough to keep both files. The image history can be viewed if users want to see them without the tabard. SnakeSssssssssssssssssssssssss Coobra sig3For Pony! (Sssss/Slithered) 03:23, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

While I'm here, you tagged some images for deletion that are linked from my user page as being part of my (extended) to-do list. I did upload a bunch recently that I didn't create pages for or link to as needing pages, but I plan to remedy that in the next 24 hours or so. --Bellocois (talk) 03:32, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Oh no no, that is not the speedy delete tag. That is simply an unused image marker. I use it to keep track of images that are currently not being used in articles. It's also another way for users to see if articles are needed, by seeing there's an image in need of an article. I would never delete those. SnakeSssssssssssssssssssssssss Coobra sig3For Pony! (Sssss/Slithered) 03:34, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Your opinion is desired

Hey, just wanted to get your opinion on Talk:Archbishop Benedictus about whether or not the "he staged a coup" note from patch 1.4.1 should be considered lore or not. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 20:35, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Adding my 2 cents. Coobra could you vote in Category talk:Patch templates, regarding the change of icon in Cataclysm Patch templates. I would be very grateful:) IconSmall BloodElf2 Male Encaitar (DiscussionDeeds) 22:17, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Where are they now?

Just hit upon the Where are they now? section of your user site, and it's the most comprehensive of its type so far. I've posted my own MIA lists on the usual forums before, and had been thinking of compiling one myself. In the meantime, I got a response from a GM ticket regarding another MIA character, Arko'narin. — Deepred (talk) 04:54, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Oh nice =). Did you get a screenshot of the conversation to be used as a reference in case anyone contests it? SnakeSssssssssssssssssssssssss Coobra sig3For Pony! (Sssss/Slithered) 05:03, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
Indeed I did. I can upload it on request. — Deepred (talk) 06:13, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
Thank you. SnakeSssssssssssssssssssssssss Coobra sig3For Pony! (Sssss/Slithered) 06:32, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

You could probably put this in the main space under an appropriate title, whatever that may be. It has the potential to draw significant attention in the way Horde bias unintentionally did when I created it. Actually, now that I mention that page, it's probably best that you don't move it, let alone let the forums near it. (Kidding. Sort of! :-P) --Bellocois (talk) 08:05, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Heh.. well I started off wanting to do this during the beta... but after getting into finally doing it... I saw that they were still leaving many NPCs out (to be added later) and with the phasing, I wouldn't be able to just fly through zones looking for specific things.. I'd have to quest through the zones. But new toons come after older toons... so eventually I'll get back to this. I'd just prefer to being able to control it on my userspace, rather than letting it run rampant like Horde/Alliance bias =P. SnakeSssssssssssssssssssssssss Coobra sig3For Pony! (Sssss/Slithered) 08:11, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

User Templates (?)

Not sure if I titled the headline right or not. However I was wondering where I would be able to find more of the

Horde This user plays as a member of the Horde.

objects. I've forgotten the URL and haven't been able to find it on WoWPedia --Alindaloran (talk) 10:52, January 12, 2010

You can look at all "User*" templates hereEGingellTC Treader of Cenarion Circle 09:28, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Admiral Nightwing

I said in the summary he needed to be renamed to Admiral Nightwind. Hallowseve (talk) 13:17, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Admiral Nightwind already existed, hence it's deletion. SnakeSssssssssssssssssssssssss Coobra sig3For Pony! (Sssss/Slithered) 21:34, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Class thing

It has to be consistent with playable races like the night elves. They have the WoW classes at the top.--Atomos (talk) 01:08, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
And Highborne elves are actually playable so they should count.--Atomos (talk) 01:12, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Tinkering (Engineering)

I am moved to mirth... having had the page I created turned into a redirect, then deleted to make way for the page it was directing to. I guess I am confirmed in my guess as to the correctness of my choice of name. Smiley --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 22:42, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Aye. I didn't realize Tinkering (Engineering) had also just been made, thought Tinkering (engineering) was a duplicate, but it is the correct name. SnakeSssssssssssssssssssssssss Coobra sig3For Pony! (Sssss/Slithered) 23:40, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
Ayup. Someone ELSE had made Tinkering (Engineering) by the time I came along. And by george, they must have been making it at about the same time I was making mine! --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 00:54, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
According to the logs, Grynd starting making the page 3hrs or so before you. =P SnakeSssssssssssssssssssssssss Coobra sig3For Pony! (Sssss/Slithered) 01:38, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Old Mammoth

Heya, could you possibly move the article "Last Weeks Mammoth" to "Last Week's Mammoth"? I know it's only a minor typo, but I still find it somewhat annoying. WoWpedia might be more "human-made" than WoW-databases such as Wowhead which digs data directly, but it should still be on par with it when it comes to names! Also, if possible, it'd be nifty if you could make "Last Weeks Mammoth" redirect to the new page. WrathOfDeathfrost (talk) 22:39, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Your opinion is desired

Hey Coobra, the Alliance-Horde War article is constantly changed to include Malfurion as an Alliance commander, while hee actually doesn't take part in the conflict similar to Lady Liadrin, Hamuul Runetotem, Varok Saurfang or even Thrall who are not listed. Could you please visit Talk:Alliance–Horde War and discuss. I really think he doesn't fit there, as he is more neutral as leader of Cenarion Circle (just like the 4 Horde commanders who simply do not take part in the war eventhough they're in the Horde). Thanks in advance IconSmall BloodElf2 Male Encaitar (DiscussionDeeds) 20:35, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Well he's not exactly the neutral leader but the alliance representative of the cenarion circle--Ashbear160 (talk) 10:23, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Sapient race templates

Ugh i'm sorry if i complain too much but it seems gourra doesn't know that the sapient templates are made to fit certain things and he's changing the templates to fit the name of the article, which PCJ named it wrong...--Ashbear160 (talk) 01:38, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Sorry for being annoyance, but i really took a long time to arrange the templates--Ashbear160 (talk) 01:39, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Forsaken

Should i change

"Among the tauren the Forsaken found a champion in Magatha Grimtotem, who argued in favor of the alliance between the two peoples and who continues to work closely with them. Magatha claims she merely wants to aid the Forsaken in their quest to redeem themselves, although there are many who believe her true motives to be something very different and much less innocent."

with newer source:

"The kind-hearted tauren of Thunder Bluff proved to be the most promising contact. Specifically, Archdruid Hamuul Runetotem saw the potential for redemption in Sylvanas’ people, even though he was fully aware of the Forsaken’s sinister nature. Thus, the tauren convinced Warchief Thrall, despite his misgivings, to forge an alliance of convenience between the Forsaken and the Horde."

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/game/race/forsaken

Because in Cata Grimtotem and forsaken Relations made no Reference at all The quests could possibly has been retcon and blizzard website changed it from magtha to Hamuul.--Forsakenlord (talk) 22:42, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Couldn't they both have argued in favor of them... SnakeSssssssssssssssssssssssss Coobra sig3For Pony! (Sssss/Slithered) 23:08, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

could be however with shattering magtha never called the forsaken to aid her against baine bloodhoof instead asking garrosh aid + forsaken info from new website + No Reference made between the forsaken and Grimtotem + Grimtotem never sought the forsaken aid + Grimtotem Allied with Alliance (forsaken hatred enemy)= retcon? --Forsakenlord (talk) 23:23, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Wowpedia/World of Warcraft Acheivements thingy or wutever its called

how do you keep those doohickies in a straight column??????Itsuki624 (talk) 06:53, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Edit my page and copy the code the same way you did before... just take all of it, rather than portions. SnakeSssssssssssssssssssssssss Coobra sig3For Pony! (Sssss/Slithered) 06:55, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

I was only editing to find out how to make the pictures,I didn't copy it.And how do you do that snake tail thing??PS.how would i make a thingy for preferring the Horde over the Alliance?Itsuki624 (talk) 07:09, 21 January 2011 (UTC)Itsuki624

Guardian of Ancient kings

Could you make an article for the creature instead of the ability? plz--Ashbear160 (talk) 19:20, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

plz?--Ashbear160 (talk) 17:16, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
You're welcome to. I wouldn't know what to put. SnakeSssssssssssssssssssssssss Coobra sig3For Pony! (Sssss/Slithered) 21:32, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
No i mean i don't know how to make an article separate the creature from the ability do i add something to the name of the article or something?--Ashbear160 (talk) 22:06, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
What do you want to call the creature? The same exact thing as the ability? If so, use lower case for the race. Guardian of ancient kings .SnakeSssssssssssssssssssssssss Coobra sig3For Pony! (Sssss/Slithered) 22:13, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
You know, it needs something. Like any lore at all.--SWM2448 22:23, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
That would help too... it's why I never bothered with making a page for them. SnakeSssssssssssssssssssssssss Coobra sig3For Pony! (Sssss/Slithered) 22:25, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
Well i originally planned so i could remove a spell(with all it's spells things) from sapient species template, but then i remeber that they haven't shown any proof of being sapient, i still want to the article but there's not much lore either--Ashbear160 (talk) 22:31, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Mountfooter changes

I would like to see a couple of changes to the Mountfooter subpages:

  1. Skeletal Horse mounts - currently Mountfooter/Skeletal lists the category as "skeletal", which is already stretched to include the ebon blade DK mount. It absolutely breaks when you include the raptor. There are too many Skeletal Horses specifically to break that category that way. I would see them moved to Unique for now.
  2. I would see all the sub-page mount links re-jiggered to remove the icons. The icons are only useful if there's a distinct difference, and for the most part there isn't one.

Rather than ask forgiveness, I thought I would ask your opinion on them first. --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 19:32, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Sounds like a good idea. SnakeSssssssssssssssssssssssss Coobra sig3For Pony! (Sssss/Slithered) 21:31, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
Just telling the opinion, 'cuz i'm editing mount pages a bit nowadays and i agree that fossilized raptor and dk mount need to be put in some other category, but i'm not sure that it's needed to get rid of icons. Drdead (talk) 23:38, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Template:azeroth aliens

In a fit nonsensical incoherence caused by a admin, i changed the name to a extensive "enciclopedical" name i want to change it back but the thing doesn't let me, can you help?Template:Sapient species alien to Azeroth to Template:Azeroth aliens--Ashbear160 (talk) 22:09, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Done. SnakeSssssssssssssssssssssssss Coobra sig3For Pony! (Sssss/Slithered) 22:17, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
Thanks--Ashbear160 (talk) 22:22, 21 January 2011 (UTC)


Template:Alliance Sidebar

Hey there Coobra, i'm trying to keep the pages clean and up to date, i just see Gabrirt post anything on side bars thinking anyone can be on there without a reason or role they have to be up and just throws up anything in the Alliance up there, Hope you understand im doing the edits for the good of the pages and everyone. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by ArbiterX122591 (talk · contr).

Just for the record i removed the titles from the leaders because:
A)They're bloating the template
B)They're unnecessary since you can click on the link and see their title
--Ashbear160 (talk) 22:40, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
Someone removed all the race icons from the alliance page before you protected it... could you add them back?--Ashbear160 (talk) 23:01, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
(Inserting) To what icons are you referring? The infobox is full of them. SnakeSssssssssssssssssssssssss Coobra sig3For Pony! (Sssss/Slithered) 00:33, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
And substitute this
  • The children of Cenarius, work closely with the night elves throughout Kalimdor.
    • Some Frost nymphs of Stars' Rest
      • Some Frost nymphs are within the Alliance, the most notable is Sarendryana.
For
  • The children of Cenarius, work closely with the night elves.
That's it if you can--Ashbear160 (talk) 23:05, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
Ashbear160 i love how you really fixed up the side bars and made them stand out :) Hope you got some more great ideas and continue to protect the page like me, Admins can't be everywhere up to us to keep them clean for them.--ArbiterX122591 (talk) 23:05, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
Thanks--Ashbear160 (talk) 23:14, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
Quite the hypocrite since you reverted the same type of edit. --g0urra[T҂C] 00:44, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

I personally think the Admins, should lock the Alliance & Horde Pages and have someone in the adminstration, play around with those posts and have pple submit info, so there is only accurate information. Spam or inaccruate is turned away —The preceding unsigned comment was added by ArbiterX122591 (talk · contr).

If I had the time, I would... but I don't so I won't. The article has gotten out of hand, and I tried to help repair before, but I can't monitor it daily and protecting the page forever is against the spirit of the wiki. SnakeSssssssssssssssssssssssss Coobra sig3For Pony! (Sssss/Slithered) 00:33, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

As much as I hate to be the bad guy, I banned Ashbear160 for three days. This was getting out of hand.--SWM2448 00:36, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

I'm not arguing or anything, but my point of view never thought Ashbear160 was doing anything wrong, he seemed to always make the Sidebar look more clean, standout and look alot better. I think Gabrirt should get a major ban for the Alliance and Horde Pages cause he seemed to always just throw anything on the page and so many people including Coobraand myself had to reapir what he did and he continued over and over. and should i get a Minior or Major Ban whatever you choose, cause were i have always un-done his posts everytime i seem he had edited and thats against the rules of the Wiki, but did for the good of the page. We are the only two who seem to fight and argue over stuff on the page and we didnt recieve any bans and most of problem was infact us .. so i will leave it to you Admins on your decisions.
unsigned comment was added by ArbiterX122591 (talk · contr).