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In the Basement of the SI:7 HQ, there is a statue of Horatio Montgomery, M.D. with a date on it "50 BTFT - 25 ATFT". Now, I'm willing to bet the first 2 acronyms mean "Before The" and "After The" but I wanna know what F____ T____ is. Fictional history is my favorite subject and I need info on this :). -Evilpyro
  
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| image = Magatha Comic.jpg
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| name = Magatha Grimtotem
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| title = Elder Crone
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| level = 88
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| type = Elite
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| health = 103,070,400
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| mana = 2,367,500
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| gender = Female
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| race = Tauren
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| character = [[Shaman]]
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| faction = Neutral
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| occupation = Matriarch of the [[Grimtotem tribe]]
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| affiliation = [[Grimtotem tribe]]
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| location = [[Thousand Needles]]
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| status = Alive
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| relatives = [[Helka Grimtotem|Helka]] (niece), [[Arnak Grimtotem|Arnak]] (nephew, disowned)
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| alignment = [[Neutral evil]]
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'''Magatha Grimtotem''' is the elder crone and matriarch of the once-mighty [[Grimtotem tribe]]. A powerful shaman and cunning leader, Magatha was the chief rival to High Chieftain [[Cairne Bloodhoof]] for the leadership of all [[tauren]]. After engineering Cairne's death and briefly taking control of [[Thunder Bluff]], Magatha and her Grimtotem were defeated by an army raised by Cairne's son [[Baine Bloodhoof|Baine]], and Magatha was exiled (along with any who chose to remain with her) by the new High Chieftain.
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:I reckon that BTFT probably means 'Before The Frozen Throne' while ATFT probably means 'After The Frozen Throne'. [[User:Mr. peasant|Mr. peasant]] 06:02, 25 March 2007 (EDT)
  
   
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== Biography ==
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::We're in Burning Crusade between 4 ATFT and 9 ATFT, how could he die in 25 ATFT ? So it's not for Frozen Throne... [[User:Whisperfrost|Whisperfrost]] 16:58, 12 June 2007 (EDT)
  
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Magatha is the elder crone of the mighty [[Grimtotem Clan]]. Blessed with shamanic powers when she was just a young girl, Magatha has sought power and prestige nearly all her life. She became the matriarch of the Grimtotem clan through an arranged marriage that many suspect she arranged herself, but subsequently lost her mate to an unforeseen climbing accident. Since her mate's death, Magatha has commanded the stern Grimtotem warriors. The Grimtotems believe that Magatha will lead them in eradicating the lesser races from [[Kalimdor]] and retaking the [[tauren]] ancestral holdings abroad. Magatha constantly sparred with Cairne Bloodhoof over the direction of the tauren future and feels that only she is fit to rule her people.<ref>''[[World of Warcraft|World of Warcraft manual]]'', pg. 184</ref>
   
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Magatha’s the oldest living Grimtotem and the most powerful shaman of the tribe. She is an elderly tauren female with powerful shoulders and a white muzzle. She has not let age slow her down one bit, and she defends her position with every spark of magic at her command. She is forging ties with the Forsaken, and thinks they are the type to understand an unwavering hatred against all other races. It is rumored that she is planning on killing Bloodhoof, though she is not nearly strong enough to do so at this point.<ref>''[[Horde Player's Guide]]'', pg. 163</ref>
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:::I blame Nozdormu. Somehow. --[[User:Xavius|Xavius]] 08:55, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
  
   
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For reasons known only to herself at this time, Magatha has given more aid to the [[Forsaken]] than any other high-ranking tauren such as Cairne Bloodhoof or [[Hamuul Runetotem]]. This has included arguing on their behalf when the idea of forming an alliance with them was first suggested.<ref>{{quest|Delivery to Magatha}}</ref> Ostensibly she's helped them and continues to work closely with them because she feels the tauren and their ways can help the Forsaken find a path back to being human. Skeptics believe her motives to be much less altruistic. Skeptics also do not trust the Forsaken. It is also implied in the quest {{quest|Arikara}} that the serpent seeks her, not Cairne Bloodhoof as she suggests. Magatha tried to negotiate with the [[trogg]]s of [[Ragefire Chasm]] but was met with hostility.
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::::It does not work for a real-life memorial also.--{{User:Sandwichman2448/Sig}} 21:48, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
  
   
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==Exile==
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== Elling Trias as a member..? ==
  
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[[Image:Cairne's death.JPG|thumb|right|In the shadows, Magatha watches in triumph as Cairne is slain by Garrosh]]
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Seeing [[Garrosh Hellscream]] as a potential means of disposing of Cairne, Magatha offers her support and that of the Grimtotem tribe to the new Warchief. When Cairne, displeased with Garrosh's leadership, challenges him to ''mak'gora'', Magatha offers to be the shaman who blesses Garrosh's weapon, thus showing her opposition to Cairne openly. But rather than the ritual oils, Magatha applies poison to the blade of [[Gorehowl]], merely applying drops of it to the axe head (not using her fingers to spread it around the blade, as was customary - a fact that Garrosh, largely ignorant of the dictates of ''mak'gora'', did not notice). A glancing blow to Cairne paralyzes him, allowing Garrosh to kill him.
   
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Cairne's body was not even cold before Magatha ordered her tribe to attack Thunder Bluff and other tauren towns, and kill everyone in them - including Cairne's son and heir, [[Baine Bloodhoof|Baine]]. However, a Grimtotem shaman, known as [[Jevan Grimtotem|Stormsong]], warned Baine of his father's death and of the plan to assassinate him, and aided him in rallying a force to take down Magatha and the Grimtotems. Magatha sent a request for assistance to Garrosh in Orgrimmar, believing that he would aid her as she had "aided" him; having discovered what had happened, Garrosh sent an insult-laden reply, condemning her treachery and refusing to aid her. The Grimtotem stood alone when Baine led his assault on Thunder Bluff, forcing Magatha to yield.
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I spotted Trias's name in the list, and I don't think this is accurate, I'd be more likely to say that he is a Stormwind Assassin, based on Shaw's comments in http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:Brotherhood%27s_End. If he was SI:7, Shaw would not ask the player to keep Trias's name out of their report, even as a "Oh and this man had some information on the mission too" type of heroic recognition. A SA is to keep their formal membership compleatly secret, and Trias only directs players when proof that they can be trusted is produced.--[[User:Mondoblasto|Mondoblasto]] 00:02, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
  
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:Elling might have connections but he might not be actually a member... [[User:D Long ownz U|D Long ownz U]] ([[User talk:D Long ownz U|talk]]) 02:06, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
  
   
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Crushing Magatha's totems, a grievous insult to the elements that she would have to atone for, Baine banished Magatha from the tauren lands on pain of death, and allowed those who would not follow her to remain in Thunder Bluff if they swore allegiance to him as their chieftain. Magatha and her loyalists were then taken to their place of exile in the [[Stonetalon Mountains]].
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== Stormwind Assassins and the SI:7 ==
  
   
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I posted this on the [[Talk:Stormwind Assassins|Stormwind Assassins]] discussion page, but I'll post it here too. What is the difference between the SI:7 and the [[Stormwind Assassins]]? They have the same goal (assassins guild working for Stormwind), members in the same places (Elwynn, Redridge, Westfall), and the same leader ([[Mathias Shaw]]). Isn't it the same organization with different names then? Or perhaps "Stormwind Assassins" was retconned into "SI:7"? [[User:Nith|Nith]] ([[User talk:Nith|talk]]) 15:30, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
  
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'''Magatha Grimtotem''' was a level 62 [[quest giver]] located on [[Elder Rise]] in the [[tauren]] city of [[Thunder Bluff]]. She was attended by her guards, [[Cor Grimtotem|Cor]] and [[Gorm Grimtotem]], and by her servant, [[Rahauro]].
   
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:As far as we know, they '''may''' be the same, but there hasn't been any confirmation. In World of Warcraft no mention of the Stormwind Assassins exist, only the SI:7 exists. They are probably the same, but since we have no sources telling us they are, they stay as two different articles. :)
  
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: - [[User:Aedror|Aedror]] ([[User talk:Aedror|talk]]) 17:13, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
  
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[[Image:Magatha Grimtotem.jpg|thumb|Magatha in World of Warcraft.]]
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* {{questlong|Horde|18|The Elder Crone}} {{questfinish}}
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* {{questlong|Horde|18|Forsaken Aid}} {{queststart}}
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* {{questlong|Horde|27|Sacred Fire}} {{questfinish}}
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* {{questlong|Horde|28|Arikara}} {{queststart}}
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* {{questlong|Horde|52|Delivery to Magatha}} {{questfinish}}
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* {{questlong|Horde|52|Magatha's Payment to Jediga}} {{queststart}}
   
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::Alright, that's what I thought. But in that case, maybe be can at least put a "speculation" section on both page to note the similitudes, and to say that they may be the same? [[User:Nith|Nith]] ([[User talk:Nith|talk]]) 12:43, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
  
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[[Image:Magatha_in_Cata.jpg‎|thumb|Magatha in World of Warcraft Cataclysm.]]
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Magatha's exile has not ended too well for the Elder Crone and her followers -- [[Horde]] forces in the Stonetalon region have destroyed the [[Camp Aparaje|Grimtotem's main camp]], and the surviving Grimtotem have been forced to enter into an uneasy (and temporary) truce with the [[Alliance]].
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Magatha appears in [[Thousand Needles]] as a prisoner of [[Twilight's Hammer]]. Speaking through [[Arikara]], she's able to rid her clan of incompetent leaders through adventurers and gain powerful artifacts. Later, when freed by adventurers, and she gives them task to destroy [[Animus]], in order to save Thousand Needles, and retrieve [[:The Doomstone]]. It's unknown exactly what she plans to do with the four powerful artifacts, but she promised the next time she meets the adventurers, it would be their last encounter.
   
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:::Exactly! When lookingg at the pages, I thought it strange that someone hadn't added it already (I was pretty sure that it had once been there, but it would seem I was wrong). Feel free to make a speculation-section.
  
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*[[Quest:To the Withering]] {{queststartfinish}}
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::: - [[User:Aedror|Aedror]] ([[User talk:Aedror|talk]]) 12:50, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
  
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*[[Quest:Four Twilight Elements]] {{queststartfinish}}
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*[[Quest:Unbound]] {{queststartfinish}}
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*[[Quest:The Doomstone]] {{queststartfinish}}
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*[[Quest:Spread the Word]] {{queststart}}
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*[[Quest:The Elder Crone (Thousand Needles)]]
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==Quotes==
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;Greetings
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:What brings you to old Magatha?
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:Oh what is it that you want stranger? I have little time for foolishness!
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:Be careful what you search for stranger.
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*Magatha has her own unique voiceovers.
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*Magatha now wears the shaman tier 10 armor, minus the helmet.
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NeutralMagatha Grimtotem
Image of Magatha Grimtotem
Title <Elder Crone>
Gender Female
Race Tauren
Level 88 Elite
Class Shaman
Affiliation(s) Grimtotem tribe
Occupation Matriarch of the Grimtotem tribe
Location Thousand Needles
Status Alive
Relative(s) Helka (niece), Arnak (nephew, disowned)
Alignment Neutral evil

Magatha Grimtotem is the elder crone and matriarch of the once-mighty Grimtotem tribe. A powerful shaman and cunning leader, Magatha was the chief rival to High Chieftain Cairne Bloodhoof for the leadership of all tauren. After engineering Cairne's death and briefly taking control of Thunder Bluff, Magatha and her Grimtotem were defeated by an army raised by Cairne's son Baine, and Magatha was exiled (along with any who chose to remain with her) by the new High Chieftain.

Biography

Magatha is the elder crone of the mighty Grimtotem Clan. Blessed with shamanic powers when she was just a young girl, Magatha has sought power and prestige nearly all her life. She became the matriarch of the Grimtotem clan through an arranged marriage that many suspect she arranged herself, but subsequently lost her mate to an unforeseen climbing accident. Since her mate's death, Magatha has commanded the stern Grimtotem warriors. The Grimtotems believe that Magatha will lead them in eradicating the lesser races from Kalimdor and retaking the tauren ancestral holdings abroad. Magatha constantly sparred with Cairne Bloodhoof over the direction of the tauren future and feels that only she is fit to rule her people.[1]

Magatha’s the oldest living Grimtotem and the most powerful shaman of the tribe. She is an elderly tauren female with powerful shoulders and a white muzzle. She has not let age slow her down one bit, and she defends her position with every spark of magic at her command. She is forging ties with the Forsaken, and thinks they are the type to understand an unwavering hatred against all other races. It is rumored that she is planning on killing Bloodhoof, though she is not nearly strong enough to do so at this point.[2]

For reasons known only to herself at this time, Magatha has given more aid to the Forsaken than any other high-ranking tauren such as Cairne Bloodhoof or Hamuul Runetotem. This has included arguing on their behalf when the idea of forming an alliance with them was first suggested.[3] Ostensibly she's helped them and continues to work closely with them because she feels the tauren and their ways can help the Forsaken find a path back to being human. Skeptics believe her motives to be much less altruistic. Skeptics also do not trust the Forsaken. It is also implied in the quest Arikara that the serpent seeks her, not Cairne Bloodhoof as she suggests. Magatha tried to negotiate with the troggs of Ragefire Chasm but was met with hostility.

Exile

WoW-novel-logo-16x62 This section concerns content related to the Warcraft novels, novellas, or short stories.
Main article: The Shattering: Prelude to Cataclysm
Cairne's death

In the shadows, Magatha watches in triumph as Cairne is slain by Garrosh

Seeing Garrosh Hellscream as a potential means of disposing of Cairne, Magatha offers her support and that of the Grimtotem tribe to the new Warchief. When Cairne, displeased with Garrosh's leadership, challenges him to mak'gora, Magatha offers to be the shaman who blesses Garrosh's weapon, thus showing her opposition to Cairne openly. But rather than the ritual oils, Magatha applies poison to the blade of Gorehowl, merely applying drops of it to the axe head (not using her fingers to spread it around the blade, as was customary - a fact that Garrosh, largely ignorant of the dictates of mak'gora, did not notice). A glancing blow to Cairne paralyzes him, allowing Garrosh to kill him.

Cairne's body was not even cold before Magatha ordered her tribe to attack Thunder Bluff and other tauren towns, and kill everyone in them - including Cairne's son and heir, Baine. However, a Grimtotem shaman, known as Stormsong, warned Baine of his father's death and of the plan to assassinate him, and aided him in rallying a force to take down Magatha and the Grimtotems. Magatha sent a request for assistance to Garrosh in Orgrimmar, believing that he would aid her as she had "aided" him; having discovered what had happened, Garrosh sent an insult-laden reply, condemning her treachery and refusing to aid her. The Grimtotem stood alone when Baine led his assault on Thunder Bluff, forcing Magatha to yield.

Crushing Magatha's totems, a grievous insult to the elements that she would have to atone for, Baine banished Magatha from the tauren lands on pain of death, and allowed those who would not follow her to remain in Thunder Bluff if they swore allegiance to him as their chieftain. Magatha and her loyalists were then taken to their place of exile in the Stonetalon Mountains.

World of Warcraft

Magatha Grimtotem was a level 62 quest giver located on Elder Rise in the tauren city of Thunder Bluff. She was attended by her guards, Cor and Gorm Grimtotem, and by her servant, Rahauro.

Quests

Removed from game The subject of this section has been removed from World of Warcraft.
Magatha Grimtotem

Magatha in World of Warcraft.

Cataclysm

Cataclysm This section concerns content related to Cataclysm.
Magatha in Cata

Magatha in World of Warcraft Cataclysm.

Magatha's exile has not ended too well for the Elder Crone and her followers -- Horde forces in the Stonetalon region have destroyed the Grimtotem's main camp, and the surviving Grimtotem have been forced to enter into an uneasy (and temporary) truce with the Alliance.

Magatha appears in Thousand Needles as a prisoner of Twilight's Hammer. Speaking through Arikara, she's able to rid her clan of incompetent leaders through adventurers and gain powerful artifacts. Later, when freed by adventurers, and she gives them task to destroy Animus, in order to save Thousand Needles, and retrieve The Doomstone. It's unknown exactly what she plans to do with the four powerful artifacts, but she promised the next time she meets the adventurers, it would be their last encounter.

Quests

Objective of

Quotes

Greetings
What brings you to old Magatha?
Oh what is it that you want stranger? I have little time for foolishness!
Be careful what you search for stranger.

Notes

  • Magatha has her own unique voiceovers.
  • Magatha now wears the shaman tier 10 armor, minus the helmet.

References

 
  1. ^ World of Warcraft manual, pg. 184
  2. ^ Horde Player's Guide, pg. 163
  3. ^ Delivery to Magatha

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