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This subject of this discussion is within the scope of the Recipe Project.

This discussion was drawn out of Forum:Recipe tables, where the idea was put forward to identify what aspects of profession recipe/pattern/schematic tables could be standardised into a common look and feel. In the discussion below between D.D. Corkum, Hans Kamp and talk, it was noted that subpages where the information for these tables is stored (and then transcluded from) are not named following the same convention. The aim of this forum thread is now to hilight this issue, and to decide upon and implement a common subpage naming scheme.

The page below is divided into a discussion section and a table at the bottom, where the current status of pages are listed. This subject of this discussion is also a task in the Recipe Project.

Discussion

One thing that maybe could be standardised, without too much difficulty, is the naming scheme for transcludable pages. For example, (Alchemy/RecipeTable/Artisan) vs Inscription_recipes/Artisan. Renaming these pages to follow a more common pattern would not require changing the actual appearance of the content, and might make things easier in the long run. Ddcorkum (talk) 20:42, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

In the interest of advancing discussion, I am putting together a table describing how recipes are transcluded for each trade profession. The intent is to identify how things are done now, so there can be meaningful discussion on whether or not to create a standardised method of doing it. I invite others to contribute to the table below. Ddcorkum (talk) 19:40, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

I was adaptiong Blacksmithing in the way Inscription has been done until now. I have done Blacksmithing_recipes/Apprentice until now, and I wanted to do the other Blacksmithing recipes soon. Hans Kamp (talk) 20:52, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

I notice that Alchemy omits the space in Grand Master (I bet if you look at the edit logs, its my fault from 2 years ago, lol). Otherwise, it is very similar to Inscription except the use of "../RecipeTable/". One big difference I see, comparing Alchemy to Tailoring, is that in Alchemy only the tables are transcluded and in Tailoring the discussion on a particular skill level is transcluded also. Alchemy also includes a page dedicated to each level which also transcludes the same table, but the text can vary. Ddcorkum (talk) 21:40, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

I am now moving the transcludable pages for Alchemy to follow the format for Inscription (and Blacksmithing). This is the first time I've done a change this big. I hope I don't screw it up... Be Bold, right? D.D. Corkum (T / C) 03:40, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Update: I am finished. Nothing links to the old pages any more (except this forum thread) so maybe they should be deleted? I think anyone intending to edit the recipe tables will have little difficulty finding them in their new location. D.D. Corkum (T / C) 04:12, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Just put {{sd|Replaced by [[new recipe page]].}} on the old recipe pages. -- Fandyllic (talk · contribs) 11:41 PM PST 13 Nov 2010

Thanks for the tip! D.D. Corkum (T / C) 16:11, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

I've noticed that many of the pages still have something like (Profession)/RecipeTable/(SkillLevel) that is unused but exists as a legacy from the last time that work on this was done. For example, see the Leatherworking in the table below, and you will notice I added "not in use" to the last column. I marked those pages for speedy deletion. The same will need to be done to legacy remains of other professions, as they are found. D.D. Corkum (T / C) 16:12, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

For what it's worth, at the time I "took over" updating the leatherworking and jewelcrafting recipes pages, a few years back, I was told it was preferred to use natural-language page names and avoid using slashes entirely. This is how "Master leatherworking patterns" etc. came about. LW and JC have been standardized that way for a long time. --W.woods (talk) 06:36, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Table

Profession	Recipe Page(s)	Current Transcludes	Other Pages
Alchemy	Template:AlchemyRecipes	Alchemy/RecipeTable/Apprentice Alchemy/RecipeTable/Journeyman Alchemy/RecipeTable/Expert Alchemy/RecipeTable/GrandMaster (no spaces) etc... Alchemy recipes/Apprentice Alchemy recipes/Journeyman Alchemy recipes/Expert Alchemy recipes/Artisan Alchemy recipes/Master Alchemy recipes/Grand Master Alchemy recipes/Illustrious	Templates: Template:AlchemyRecipes Template:RecipeTable/Difficulty Other pages: Alchemy faction recipes Sources of Burning Crusade alchemy recipes Sources of Wrath alchemy recipes Northrend gem transmutes Not in use: Nil
Blacksmithing	Blacksmithing recipes	Blacksmithing recipes/Apprentice Blacksmithing recipes/Journeyman Blacksmithing recipes/Expert Blacksmithing recipes/Artisan Blacksmithing recipes/Master Blacksmithing recipes/Grand Master	Templates: Nil Other pages: Nil Not in use: Nil
Inscription	Inscription recipes	Inscription recipes/Apprentice Inscription recipes/Journeyman Inscription recipes/Expert Inscription recipes/Artisan Inscription recipes/Master Inscription recipes/Grand Master	Templates: Nil Other pages: Nil Not in use: Nil
Leatherworking	Leatherworking patterns	Apprentice leatherworking patterns Journeyman leatherworking patterns Expert leatherworking patterns Artisan leatherworking patterns Master leatherworking patterns Grand Master leatherworking patterns Uncertain leatherworking patterns	Templates: Nil Other Pages: Leatherworking faction recipes Not in use: Leatherworking/RecipeTable Leatherworking/RecipeTable/Apprentice Leatherworking/RecipeTable/Journeyman etc...
Tailoring	Tailoring patterns Classic Outland Northrend Cataclysm Pandaria Draenor Legion Battle for Azeroth Shadowlands Dragon Isles Tailored Armor Head Shoulders Back Chest Wrist Hands Legs Feet Other Bags Shirts Consumable Other	Apprentice tailoring patterns Journeyman tailoring patterns Expert tailoring patterns Artisan tailoring patterns Master tailoring patterns Grandmaster tailoring patterns	Templates Template:Tailoring recipes (note: each link redirects) Template:Tailored (by item type) Other pages: Leatherworking faction recipes Not in use: Nil

--D.D. Corkum (T / C) 05:41, 12 December 2010 (UTC)