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| + | ! colspan="2" style="text-align:center; font-size:120%;" |This is [[User:Pcj|Pcj]]'s [[WoWWiki:Talk page guidelines|talk page]], where you can leave messages and comments for Pcj. |
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| − | |description=A defensive combat stance. Decreases damage taken by 10%. Increases threat generated by 200%. |
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| + | * '''[[WoWWiki:Signatures|Please sign and date your posts]]''' by typing four tildes (<tt><nowiki>~~</nowiki><nowiki>~~</nowiki></tt>). |
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| + | * '''Put new text under old text.''' [{{fullurl:{{TALKPAGENAMEE}}|action=edit§ion=new}} Click here to start a new topic]. |
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| + | *'''Do not repeatedly edit yours or others' contributions to my talk page with small changes, I get an e-mail every time you do.''' --{{User:Pcj/sig}} |
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| + | *Previous discussions: [[User talk:Pcj/Archive 1]], [[User talk:Pcj/Archive 2]], [[User talk:Pcj/Archive 3]] |
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| − | |improvement=[[Bastion of Defense]] |
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| + | *[[WoWWiki:Wikiquette|Be polite]] |
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| + | *[[WoWWiki:Assume good faith|Assume good faith]] |
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| + | *[[WoWWiki:Please do not bite the newcomers|Be welcoming]] |
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| + | == Existence WoWWiki == |
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| − | '''Defensive Stance''' is the second [[stance]] learned by [[warrior]]s, and is considered essential for warriors who [[tank]]. |
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| + | How long will WoWWiki be online yet? I may want to copy/paste articles from there when the articles there are more recent than those that have already been copied to here. [[User:Hans Kamp|Hans Kamp]] ([[User talk:Hans Kamp|talk]]) 19:10, 20 October 2010 (UTC) |
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| − | ==Notes== |
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| + | :Wikia will maintain WoWWiki indefinitely. --{{User:Pcj/sig}} 19:11, 20 October 2010 (UTC) |
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| − | Defensive Stance allows the use of some stance-specific abilities. These include [[Warrior Taunt|Taunt]], [[Revenge]], [[Shield Block]], [[Disarm]], and [[Shield Wall]]. Defensive Stance also shares some abilities with [[Battle Stance]]. |
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| + | ::Okay, then I won't have to rush the editing of the articles. :) [[User:Hans Kamp|Hans Kamp]] ([[User talk:Hans Kamp|talk]]) 19:17, 20 October 2010 (UTC) |
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| + | == An offer of service == |
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| − | Defensive Stance is a cautious back-footed stance that allows the warrior to react more efficiently to incoming attacks, and better utilize the sheer immensity of armor available to him. The slower, more deliberate nature of the stance makes it difficult to inflict as much damage with his own attacks. This style of fighting lends itself to shield use with main-handed weapons for the most effect, but can be successfully used with any type of weapon to a lesser degree. |
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| + | Now that we have made the transition - and I hope that Blizzard does too - I offer what service I can provide...such as it is. :) --[[User:Joshmaul|Joshmaul]] ([[User talk:Joshmaul|talk]]) 19:14, 20 October 2010 (UTC) |
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| − | ==Improvements== |
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| + | :Um, thanks? Just change WoWWiki to Wowpedia where it makes sense to, as well as any other outdated stuff. --{{User:Pcj/sig}} 19:16, 20 October 2010 (UTC) |
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| − | The [[Stance Mastery]] ability and [[Tactical Mastery]] talent reduce the [[Rage]] lost when switching stances. |
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| + | ::Has there been a move to change the site on Blizzard's fansite listing? --[[User:Joshmaul|Joshmaul]] ([[User talk:Joshmaul|talk]]) 19:20, 20 October 2010 (UTC) |
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| + | :::We're working on it. Kaydeethree is going to talk to them at Blizzcon. --{{User:Pcj/sig}} 19:24, 20 October 2010 (UTC) |
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+ | == Edit Count Display and Quantity Errors == |
| − | A must for main tank work, the 10% incoming damage reduction, increased [[threat]], and access to Taunt make all the difference when working in a group. Since several of the Defensive Stance abilities require one, a [[shield]] is a must to get the most out of this stance. |
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| + | Just happened to notice that the edit count is not showing on user pages and there is a significant discrepancy between the old and the new. Past that, grats on the move and I again think it is for the better in the long term. [[User:Ariule|Ariule]] ([[User talk:Ariule|talk]]) |
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| − | This stance does have some place in solo work, as on average, most warriors will be doing a lot more than 5% extra damage than a similarly leveled non-elite mob per swing, meaning that if a fight looks like it could go either way, a stance swap to Defensive will more often than not allow the warrior to survive long enough to finish the job, particularly if the mob has status effects built up already — [[Sunder Armor]], [[Rend]] and so on. |
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| + | :Yeah, we're aware of the problem. Unfortunately, I don't think there's much that can be done. --{{User:Pcj/sig}} 00:06, 21 October 2010 (UTC) |
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| − | Under normal circumstances, however, it is an unnecessarily slow way to go one-on-one vs solo mobs, and [[Battle Stance]] or [[Berserker Stance]] would achieve the same effect in a shorter time, with minimal extra risk. |
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| + | ::If there is nothing to be done, then that is the way it shall be. Not a problem at all, just wanted it to be on the "aware" list. [[User:Ariule|Ariule]] ([[User talk:Ariule|talk]]) |
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| − | In PvP, this stance is less helpful because combat is generally decided by who can cause the most critical hits and stun or fear effects in as short a time as possible. Survivability usually comes second to "Shock and Awe". Use Defensive Stance only briefly to allow use of particular abilities; [[Disarm]], [[Shield Wall]], or if you wish to reduce damage that you know will come soon by 10%/20%. |
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| + | :::Did the edit counts get <i>completely</i> reset as it appears from this side? [[User:Ariule|Ariule]] ([[User talk:Ariule|talk]]) |
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| + | ::::They're reset, but obviously they can be re-figured from counting your contributions. Which is a big chore for as many users as we have. --{{User:Pcj/sig}} 01:18, 22 October 2010 (UTC) |
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| − | This ability is gained through completing one of several quests: |
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| + | :::::Again, not a problem, It was fun watching the counter click and making it the 1k club was cool and all that. Perhaps a "Feat of Strength Achievement" seal and new seals for the new edit clubs. Just a thought. [[User:Ariule|Ariule]] ([[User talk:Ariule|talk]]) |
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| − | * {{questclass|alliance|warrior|10|Vejrek}} in [[Ironforge]] |
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| − | * {{questclass|alliance|warrior|10|Vorlus Vilehoof}} in [[Darnassus]] |
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| − | * {{questclass|alliance|warrior|10|Bartleby's Mug}} in [[Stormwind]] |
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| − | * {{questclass|alliance|warrior|10|Strength of One}} in [[Azuremyst Isle]] |
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| − | * {{questclass|horde|warrior|10|Path of Defense}} in [[The Barrens]] |
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| − | * {{questclass|horde|warrior|10|Ulag the Cleaver}} in [[Tirisfal Glades]] |
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| − | ''[[Blood elves]] cannot be [[warriors]], and [[troll]]s, [[orc]]s, and [[tauren]] can all share the [[Barrens]], so the Horde have fewer locations to pick up Defensive Stance quests.'' |
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| + | == On Name Changes... == |
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| − | You may only have one of these quests at a time, as their rewards are identical skills. |
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| + | Don't mean to be rude or anything, but if it's not too much trouble, could I maybe get my username changed to Teth? Thanks. -- [[Image:Inv_staff_81.png|20px|link=User:Sebreth]] [[User:Sebreth|Sebreth]] <span style="font-size:10px; color:aqua">([[User_talk:Sebreth|T]].[[Special:Contributions/Sebreth|C]])</span> 02:00, 21 October 2010 (UTC) |
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| + | :Done. --{{User:Pcj/sig}} 02:01, 21 October 2010 (UTC) |
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| + | ::Huh. I thought it'd be more of a bother than that. Thanks a ton, bro. -- [[Image:Inv_staff_81.png|20px|link=User:Teth]] [[User:Teth|Teth]] <span style="font-size:10px; color:aqua">([[User_talk:Teth|T]].[[Special:Contributions/Teth|C]])</span> 02:10, 21 October 2010 (UTC) |
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+ | == Rename == |
| + | ''Now that you're here, do you want a name change? You don't need the WoWWiki- prefix anymore. --{{User:Pcj/sig}} 04:03, 22 October 2010 (UTC)'' |
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| − | * {{Patch 4.0.1|note=Now increases threat by 200% and damage taken by 10%. It is available at level 10 for {{cost||6|46}}.}} |
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| + | :Yes, please. Suzaku will suffice. [[User:WoWWiki-Suzaku|WoWWiki-Suzaku]] ([[User talk:WoWWiki-Suzaku|talk]]) 04:08, 22 October 2010 (UTC) |
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| − | * {{Patch 3.1.0|note=Now reduces damage caused by 5%. (Was 10%.)}} |
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| − | * {{Patch 3.0.2|note=Now increases threat by 45%.}} |
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| + | == Chrome search title == |
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| − | ==See also== |
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| − | *{{questchain|Grey Iron Weapons}} |
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| − | *{{questchain|Weapons of Elunite}} |
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| + | Congrats on the move! I wanted to report an error I noticed earlier searching the site via the Google Chrome omnibar. Quick recap: Chrome recognizes searches on a site, and thenceforth when it sees you typing the url it will offer you the ability to press tab and enter keywords to search using the site's search functionality. When you do press tab, Chrome places an icon on the left side of the omnibar that says "Search [site name]:". ''When I searched Wowpedia for the first time, [site name] is still "WoWWiki" according to Chrome.'' I don't know where it pulls this name from, but apparently it didn't get changed over. Threw me for a loop for a second. I'm aware you can change this name manually, which I've done, but obviously the default should be fixed. |
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| − | <!-- Read http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:External_links before posting your links here. |
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| − | Links that do not conform to the rules will be DELETED. |
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| − | Repeat violations may result in a BAN. |
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| − | Have a nice day. :) --> |
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| + | TLDR: The Chrome omnibar search functionality still calls Wowpedia "WoWWiki". |
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| − | {{Warrior Stances}} |
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| + | ...and grr, it looks like I'm unable to repro this; when I delete the search from Chrome and make it re-generate it, "wowpedia.org" is displayed now. Still could be because of my edit though, so I guess I'll let you guys take a look at it just to be sure. Perhaps you fixed it already. [[User:Jerodast| - Jerodast]] ([[User talk:Jerodast|talk]]) 08:09, 21 October 2010 (UTC) |
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| + | == Sidebar & Other Graphical Improvements == |
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| + | Hi Pcj,<br> |
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| + | Congrats on the move and a new shiny Vector skin.<br> |
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| + | If you are wondering how to have a 100% customisable sidebar with minimal fuss, Aionopedia uses an extensions named CustomNavBlocks or sumthing like that.<br> |
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| + | Also for the edit article box that in typing this in, you may want to consider using the UsabilityInitiative until they have a easily plug-in for CKEditor.<br> |
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| + | If you want sum help with customising the Vector skin i know it very well and more than help you out. |
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| + | Aionopedia [[User:Bohtauri|Bohtauri]] ([[User talk:Bohtauri|talk]]) 13:44, 22 October 2010 (UTC) |
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| + | :Not particularly interested, thanks. --{{User:Pcj/sig}} 13:44, 22 October 2010 (UTC) |
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| + | == Wikia reference in DNP policy == |
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| + | Hiya! Just randomly trawling around the new site (love it, btw), and came across a reference to Wikia's ToU (and a broken link, to boot). Specifically, in the [[http://www.wowpedia.org/Wowpedia:DNP_policy#Other_prohibitions_enforced_by_this_policy DNP Policy]] article. I'm not sure where that link really should point, and it's an important enough part of the policies that I really ''don't'' want to get it wrong. So, the next best option seems to be "alert an admin". Well, consider yourself alerted. :) --[[User:PaxArcana|PaxArcana]] ([[User talk:PaxArcana|talk]]) 04:57, 23 October 2010 (UTC) |
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| + | == ru.wow.wikia.com -> www.wowpedia.ru == |
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| + | Please modify interwiki links. We did it on www.wowpedia.ru. Thx. [[User:Strizh|Strizh]] ([[User talk:Strizh|talk]]) 13:22, 23 October 2010 (UTC) |
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| + | :Will do, most of the Curse staff is busy with Blizzcon atm so it may be next week. --{{User:Pcj/sig}} 13:23, 23 October 2010 (UTC) |
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| + | :OK, now it's done. There seems to be some sort of hidden "job queue" while it goes through all the pages. --{{User:Pcj/sig}} 03:36, 27 October 2010 (UTC) |
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| + | ==User Account Migration== |
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| + | Hi there. Just following up on [[User_talk:Starlightblunder#User_Account_Migration|this discussion]], where foxlit mentioned some Perl scripts you used to import user accounts. I was just wondering if you could let me know how this worked, and what you used? Many thanks [[User:Adam|Adam]] ([[User talk:Adam|talk]]) 11:27, 24 October 2010 (UTC) |
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| + | == Multiple File Upload Page Broken == |
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| + | Recieve the following error with both FireFox and IE |
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| + | <code>Fatal error: Call to undefined method UploadForm::UploadForm() in /home/wowpedia/public_html/extensions/MultiUpload/SpecialMultipleUpload.body.php on line 72</code> |
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| + | Posted it here [[Forum:Multiple_upload_page_error|Forum:Multiple Upload Page Error]] But was unsure if in the chaos of the move it may simply have been overlooked. |
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| + | Please advise. [[User:Ariule|Ariule]] ([[User talk:Ariule|talk]]) 01:26, 26 October 2010 (UTC) |
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| + | == e-mail validation not working == |
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| + | Hey there, since you "pulled" me over, I thought I'd make it your problem :p<br> |
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| + | Taking over my account here worked fine, except setting my e-mail address seems to cause some troubles => I don't receive the validation e-mail. Now I don't know whether gmail blocks it or wowpedia does not send it, but I just checked the spam to be sure. So maybe there's a problem with the mailserver setup? -[[User:Watchout|watchou]][[User_talk:Watchout|T]] 02:25, 26 October 2010 (UTC) |
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| + | : great, a classic. Just tried again and this time it worked... So everything's fine the prim is back -[[User:Watchout|watchou]][[User_talk:Watchout|T]] 02:28, 26 October 2010 (UTC) |
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| + | :Nice. :) --{{User:Pcj/sig}} 02:29, 26 October 2010 (UTC) |
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Existence WoWWiki
How long will WoWWiki be online yet? I may want to copy/paste articles from there when the articles there are more recent than those that have already been copied to here. Hans Kamp (talk) 19:10, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
- Wikia will maintain WoWWiki indefinitely. --Pcj (T•C) 19:11, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
- Okay, then I won't have to rush the editing of the articles. :) Hans Kamp (talk) 19:17, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
An offer of service
Now that we have made the transition - and I hope that Blizzard does too - I offer what service I can provide...such as it is. :) --Joshmaul (talk) 19:14, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
- Um, thanks? Just change WoWWiki to Wowpedia where it makes sense to, as well as any other outdated stuff. --Pcj (T•C) 19:16, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
Edit Count Display and Quantity Errors
Just happened to notice that the edit count is not showing on user pages and there is a significant discrepancy between the old and the new. Past that, grats on the move and I again think it is for the better in the long term. Ariule (talk)
- Yeah, we're aware of the problem. Unfortunately, I don't think there's much that can be done. --Pcj (T•C) 00:06, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
On Name Changes...
Don't mean to be rude or anything, but if it's not too much trouble, could I maybe get my username changed to Teth? Thanks. -- 
Sebreth (T.C) 02:00, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
Rename
Now that you're here, do you want a name change? You don't need the WoWWiki- prefix anymore. --Pcj (T•C) 04:03, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, please. Suzaku will suffice. WoWWiki-Suzaku (talk) 04:08, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
Chrome search title
Congrats on the move! I wanted to report an error I noticed earlier searching the site via the Google Chrome omnibar. Quick recap: Chrome recognizes searches on a site, and thenceforth when it sees you typing the url it will offer you the ability to press tab and enter keywords to search using the site's search functionality. When you do press tab, Chrome places an icon on the left side of the omnibar that says "Search [site name]:". When I searched Wowpedia for the first time, [site name] is still "WoWWiki" according to Chrome. I don't know where it pulls this name from, but apparently it didn't get changed over. Threw me for a loop for a second. I'm aware you can change this name manually, which I've done, but obviously the default should be fixed.
TLDR: The Chrome omnibar search functionality still calls Wowpedia "WoWWiki".
...and grr, it looks like I'm unable to repro this; when I delete the search from Chrome and make it re-generate it, "wowpedia.org" is displayed now. Still could be because of my edit though, so I guess I'll let you guys take a look at it just to be sure. Perhaps you fixed it already. - Jerodast (talk) 08:09, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
Sidebar & Other Graphical Improvements
Hi Pcj,
Congrats on the move and a new shiny Vector skin.
If you are wondering how to have a 100% customisable sidebar with minimal fuss, Aionopedia uses an extensions named CustomNavBlocks or sumthing like that.
Also for the edit article box that in typing this in, you may want to consider using the UsabilityInitiative until they have a easily plug-in for CKEditor.
If you want sum help with customising the Vector skin i know it very well and more than help you out.
Aionopedia Bohtauri (talk) 13:44, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
Wikia reference in DNP policy
Hiya! Just randomly trawling around the new site (love it, btw), and came across a reference to Wikia's ToU (and a broken link, to boot). Specifically, in the [DNP Policy] article. I'm not sure where that link really should point, and it's an important enough part of the policies that I really don't want to get it wrong. So, the next best option seems to be "alert an admin". Well, consider yourself alerted. :) --PaxArcana (talk) 04:57, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
ru.wow.wikia.com -> www.wowpedia.ru
Please modify interwiki links. We did it on www.wowpedia.ru. Thx. Strizh (talk) 13:22, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
- Will do, most of the Curse staff is busy with Blizzcon atm so it may be next week. --Pcj (T•C) 13:23, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
- OK, now it's done. There seems to be some sort of hidden "job queue" while it goes through all the pages. --Pcj (T•C) 03:36, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
User Account Migration
Hi there. Just following up on this discussion, where foxlit mentioned some Perl scripts you used to import user accounts. I was just wondering if you could let me know how this worked, and what you used? Many thanks Adam (talk) 11:27, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Multiple File Upload Page Broken
Recieve the following error with both FireFox and IE
Fatal error: Call to undefined method UploadForm::UploadForm() in /home/wowpedia/public_html/extensions/MultiUpload/SpecialMultipleUpload.body.php on line 72
Posted it here Forum:Multiple Upload Page Error But was unsure if in the chaos of the move it may simply have been overlooked.
Please advise. Ariule (talk) 01:26, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
e-mail validation not working
Hey there, since you "pulled" me over, I thought I'd make it your problem :p
Taking over my account here worked fine, except setting my e-mail address seems to cause some troubles => I don't receive the validation e-mail. Now I don't know whether gmail blocks it or wowpedia does not send it, but I just checked the spam to be sure. So maybe there's a problem with the mailserver setup? -watchouT 02:25, 26 October 2010 (UTC)